"Foot fault" or Wimbledon officials losing credibility

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NashaMasha

Discussion Starter · Jun 29, 2012 (Edited)

"Foot-faults. I don't know what to say, but it was a little bit outrageous," Karlovic said. "In my whole life, ever since I was eight years old, whole life I didn't do this many foot-fault. It was like 11. It was never called when it was like 30‑Love or 40‑Love. It was always when it was 30‑All or in a tiebreak. I mean, what is this? Is it Davis Cup or is it Wimbledon? After this match, the whole credibility of this tournament went down for me... But I don't do them, foot‑faults...

"Then like after I don't know how many, I stand a little bit back so they cannot call. They still did it, called. So it was outrageous, outrageous. It's Wimbledon, Centre Court, and they do this. I mean, this is BS. I feel cheated. On a Grand Slam, Centre Court...

"Right now I'm angry about it, little bit pissed, because I don't expect it here. Even though it is against English guy who they always want to win, but I don't expect it here."

Murray responded: "That's very tough to question the integrity of Wimbledon. I mean, it's got a lot of history, a lot of tradition. There's been hundreds of thousands of matches played here over the years. I've never heard that before. But I need to see the videos. If there was 11 foot-faults called against him and every one was incorrect, then that's completely wrong and unfair. But for it to happen that many times, you would think there would have been a number of fairly obvious foot-faults, because you don't really see them called that much nowadays. Very rare. If it turns out that he wasn't foot‑faulting, if I was him, I'd be very, very disappointed."

let's discuss not men's tennis but Wibledon officials , who are increadibly biased and rooting for British players. Frankly speaking what is happening at Wimbledon is a disgrace.

Let's not forget roof which is closed not for WTA players, let's not forget what matches are at central court (any British player vs any top 10 = CC) etc, now linesmen cheating in favour of Murray and if i am not mustaken for some british girls either

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Cosmic Voices

· #21 · Jun 29, 2012

What about rena's at US Open :oh:

:oh:

Bijoux0021

· #22 · Jun 29, 2012

If they are going to call foot faults, they need to have a challenge system like the hawkeye so that the players can challenge those calls.

It's not right for line persons to get away with calls that cannot be proven either way.

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Olórin

· #23 · Jun 29, 2012

Load of nonsense created by idiots. Why have officials waited until now (this is his 7th Wimbledon) to start footfaulting Murray's opponents into submission, did big Ivo seem like an "easy target"? Explanations.

NashaMasha confirming their position as one of the forums dimmest posters. It's not even a legitimate question given that Karlovic got so many of the basic facts wrong, i.e. how many footfaults were called.

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NoChokes

· #24 · Jun 29, 2012

Olórin said:
Load of nonsense created by idiots. Why have officials waited until now to start footfaulting Murray's opponents into submission, did big Ivo seem like an "easy target"? Explanations

Haha, yep. All these years without British success and they wait until a second round match against Karlovic to start this new 'foot-fault' plan.

You would have thought that a Henman semi-final or something would have been a better time for this to begin, not this match that Murray would have won anyways without the foot-faults.

He lost, he whined. It's a common theme.

Monica_Rules

· #25 · Jun 29, 2012

If he's being footfaulted a few times must be a problem and the lines people changes every 20 or 30 minutes so it must have been different lines people. Can't all be biased

pov

· #26 · Jun 29, 2012

paul_masterton said:
The media have already corrected Karlovic's claims, both on the fact he didn;t get anywhere near 11 foot faults, one 1 was in a tiebreak, and the majority he did get were on first serves.

Okay. That's good to know. Sucks that the original hoopla will continue to circulate among those who like drama more than facts.

Patrick345

· #27 · Jun 29, 2012

There is one top player on the female side (top 20ish), who I think footfaults on every serve. Drives me nuts. Honestly can´t remember who it is, but just like in other areas players try to bend the rules as much as they can to their advantage.

aloeball

· #28 · Jun 29, 2012

Mary Cherry. said:
It was always at key moments too, when it was 30-30 in close games or in the tiebreaks.

It's a little suspicious.

I cant PM you. Whos the hot guy in your avatar ? Oh my gosh

And yes, Wimbledon is biased.

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Beat

· #29 · Jun 29, 2012

NashaMasha said:
1 day CC Heather Watson (GBR) Iveta Benesova (CZE)
2 day CC Andy Murray (GBR)[4] Nikolay Davydenko (RU
2 day C1 Jamie Baker (GBR) Andy Roddick (USA)[30]
4 day CC Andy Murray (GBR)[4] Ivo Karlovic (CRO)
4 day C1 Mardy Fish (USA)[10] James Ward
5 day CC Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)[3] Heather Watson (GBR)

+ Petra-Baltacha orginally scheduled for C1

it's a mainly british crowd, so your point is ...?

In The Zone

· #30 · Jun 29, 2012

serbian_siren said:
What about rena's at US Open

Shino is Flemish.

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Excelscior

· #31 · Jun 29, 2012

n1ko0 said:
also all of these matches you listed had big names so of course they were going to be on the big show courts. (with the exception of benesova, however that match was a leftover which was never originally scheduled for centre, and was put there to fill the remaining time that day)

and as far as the olympics go, i have no idea, but yes i imagine the big british names will be on the showcourts again. get used to it. This happens at all the grand slams, not just wimbledon. I fail to see the point you are trying to make.

I don't want to get in between you all's inter-European argument, but Andy Roddick, Mardy Fish, Aggie Radwanska (and I know you also mentioned a reason for Besenova, but still) are big names? Since when (and yes, I know Roddick was a former finalist vs Federer, but no one cares for him and his past now, just like a Leyton Hewitt)?

Now you're right about the part of it being a British audience, catering to their needs and favorites (whether some of us agree with that or not). I can understand that, whole heartedly. :lol:

NoChokes

· #32 · Jun 29, 2012

They're big enough names for a show-court when they're playing a British player. I think that's what is meant.

Roddick is still a big name though. He's probably the most popular male player at Wimbledon outside of the obvious.

miffedmax

· #33 · Jun 29, 2012

Officials--and this time I'm being serious--get graded and reviewed. You don't get to work a major (at least not the US Open) until you've proven your mettle. And officials who make blatant mistakes on a consistent basis during a tournament (where they are usually observed) will get set home.

At smaller events, the pool is obviously smaller, and often the officials are often less experienced (though not always--I have friends who work the Dallas events that have worked Indian Wells, The US Open, Miami, etc.). There, you're also more likely to get a good talking to than a dismissal because, again, there are only so many officials available.

But if a linesman is calling non-existent footfaults, or applying the rule in an arbitrary fashion, they won't be working more matches at a major. The ITF will yank them.

I'm always amazed to see how many players at tournaments simply get facts flat out wrong or don't even know the rule in question. I think they see with their hearts, not their heads.

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Serenaluv

· #34 · Jun 29, 2012

miffedmax said:
Officials--and this time I'm being serious--get graded and reviewed. You don't get to work a major (at least not the US Open) until you've proven your mettle. And officials who make blatant mistakes on a consistent basis during a tournament (where they are usually observed) will get set home.

At smaller events, the pool is obviously smaller, and often the officials are often less experienced (though not always--I have friends who work the Dallas events that have worked Indian Wells, The US Open, Miami, etc.). There, you're also more likely to get a good talking to than a dismissal because, again, there are only so many officials available.

But if a linesman is calling non-existent footfaults, or applying the rule in an arbitrary fashion, they won't be working more matches at a major. The ITF will yank them.

I'm always amazed to see how many players at tournaments simply get facts flat out wrong or don't even know the rule in question. I think they see with their hearts, not their heads.

It's nice to see you being so naïve. If they really did bother with grading and reviewing there would be none left, since they are all as bad as each other.

NashaMasha

Discussion Starter · #35 · Jul 1, 2012

IVO KARLOVIC will make a formal complaint to Wimbledon and demand a public apology if technology can show line judges were wrong to foot-fault him during his defeat by Andy Murray.

The All England Club have confirmed they will take any official complaint seriously but are powerless to investigate events on Centre Court further until they have one.

Croat Karlovic claimed to have been foot-faulted “11 times” during Thursday’s four-set defeat and, while he exonerates Murray of any blame, he feels the whole of Wimbledon has become biased in its determination to crown a British champion.

“I believe we are going to make an official complaint,” he said. “If it does show I did not foot-fault, I would like a public apology from Wimbledon.”
The BBC did not at any point show replays of Karlovic’s feet – despite live exhortations to do so by commentator John McEnroe – and the player himself claimed footage shown on the international feed of one call showed him to be an inch behind the line.

“I only know it is very strange that the BBC, with all their technology, did not replay,” he said.

Karlovic pointed the finger particularly at a female judge who made four of the calls.

Ok , Karlovic accuses Wimbledon of cheating. Why don't they do anything to stand up for their reputation?

Jane Lane

· #36 · Jul 1, 2012

miffedmax said:
Officials--and this time I'm being serious--get graded and reviewed. You don't get to work a major (at least not the US Open) until you've proven your mettle. And officials who make blatant mistakes on a consistent basis during a tournament (where they are usually observed) will get set home.

At smaller events, the pool is obviously smaller, and often the officials are often less experienced (though not always--I have friends who work the Dallas events that have worked Indian Wells, The US Open, Miami, etc.). There, you're also more likely to get a good talking to than a dismissal because, again, there are only so many officials available.

But if a linesman is calling non-existent footfaults, or applying the rule in an arbitrary fashion, they won't be working more matches at a major. The ITF will yank them.

I'm always amazed to see how many players at tournaments simply get facts flat out wrong or don't even know the rule in question. I think they see with their hearts, not their heads.

This.

Plus, the linescrews are changed every 20-30 minutes. Obviously, everyone is biased. Even the foreign ones.

Next.

metamorpha

· #37 · Jul 1, 2012

2009, Serena. ---> Rumor said it was bogus.
2010, Roddick. ---> Clearly legit.
2012, Karlovic. ---> 11 FF seriously?! It's a big insult to Karlovic. He is anything but a donkey.

Chrissie-fan

· #38 · Jul 1, 2012

Bijoux0021 said:
If they are going to call foot faults, they need to have a challenge system like the hawkeye so that the players can challenge those calls.

The voice of reason.

NashaMasha

Discussion Starter · #39 · Jul 1, 2012

Plus, the linescrews are changed every 20-30 minutes. Obviously, everyone is biased. Even the foreign ones. Next.

why not just show video footage? slow motion , they have innumerous number of cameras on the central court. If Karlovic is not right, fine him for insulting officials.

Why are they acting like Putin falsifying elections results?

Raiden

· #40 · Jul 1, 2012

n1ko0 said:
Anne Keothavong got foot faulted yesterday. Baltacha VS Kvitova was scheduled for court 1 and ended up being played on court two. Next.

Let's not mix two things. I believe the British are entitled to be biased to their home players when it comes to assigning players to courts.

But officiating is a totally different matter. The likes of Murray and Robson should not be awarded an ounce of advantage form the judges. When it comes to that fair officiating should not only be a given, but sacrosanct.

I would be more than outrageous and disgusting if "homer umpiring" and line calling (something that is systematic and wide spread in many other sports) is brought over and imported into tennis.

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