[chingching]

What's the story on Katherine Westbury? How come she has a surname like that although she looks full Thai, could she have been adopted?

And we are able to put down Tatishvili now as she now represents USA

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No I have seen her father and he is Thai... Either he has some distant white heritage or it is Anglicised which wouldn't surprise me given that she lived in New Zealand and spent a lot of time in Australia

Also Vitalia Diatchenko does not have close Ukrainian roots as IIRC she said that her grandparents grew up in Sochi meaning that the earliest is Great Grandparents which is a fair way off. However, -nykh is a Ukrainian suffix therefore Valeria Savinykh is most likely Ukrainian.

 

[Aryman3]

Ula Rad. was born in Ahaus/Germany but she's not of German descent, certainly

 

[maya-serbia]

Belinda Bencic is Slovak.
Timea Bacsinszky is Hungarian.
Romina Oprandi is Italian.
Amra Sadikovic is Bosnian.
Viktorija Golubic is Hungarian.
Xenia Knoll is Serbian.
Conny Perrin is Brazilian.
Lisa Sabino is Italian.
Jil Belen Teichmann is Spanish.
Sarah Ottomano is Spanish.
Chiara Volejnicek is Czech.
Rebeka Masarova is Czech.

This are all the ranked Swiss players with other nationalities.

Golubic is Serbian,on her facebook page she is writhing on serbian with some serbian players,also Knoll is half serbian and in this video she said that she is happy because she won itf "at home " in Belgrade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbxImcd3rD0

 

[hellas719]

No I have seen her father and he is Thai... Either he has some distant white heritage or it is Anglicised which wouldn't surprise me given that she lived in New Zealand and spent a lot of time in Australia

Also Vitalia Diatchenko does not have close Ukrainian roots as IIRC she said that her grandparents grew up in Sochi meaning that the earliest is Great Grandparents which is a fair way off. However, -nykh is a Ukrainian suffix therefore Valeria Savinykh is most likely Ukrainian.

I'm too lazy to check, but weren't you the one who told me to put Diatchenko as Ukrainian in the first place? :lol:

Ula Rad. was born in Ahaus/Germany but she's not of German descent, certainly

Yeah so then she doesn't count

 

[Daebak.]

No I have seen her father and he is Thai... Either he has some distant white heritage or it is Anglicised which wouldn't surprise me given that she lived in New Zealand and spent a lot of time in Australia

Also Vitalia Diatchenko does not have close Ukrainian roots as IIRC she said that her grandparents grew up in Sochi meaning that the earliest is Great Grandparents which is a fair way off. However, -nykh is a Ukrainian suffix therefore Valeria Savinykh is most likely Ukrainian.

Btw do you know about Ashling Sumner. I know her mum is Asian and her dad is white. And also Pamela Boyanov? On her instagram her name is Pamela Boyanova and in her bio says Смерть до бесчестие (Russian) but I did some research and 'Boyanov' is Bulgarian.

Also Moriarty has some Aboriginal Australian ethnicity I believe

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[Meelis]

What's the story on Katherine Westbury? How come she has a surname like that although she looks full Thai, could she have been adopted?

Young Kat with parents and brothers

 

[spiceboy]

and Teichmann doesn't sound Spanish :lol:

That's because Teichmann is her father's surname. It's her mum the Spanish one. Belén is a pretty common Spanish name also.

 

[chingching]

Btw do you know about Ashling Sumner. I know her mum is Asian and her dad is white. And also Pamela Boyanov? On her instagram her name is Pamela Boyanova and in her bio says Смерть до бесчестие (Russian) but I did some research and 'Boyanov' is Bulgarian.

Also Moriarty has some Aboriginal Australian ethnicity I believe

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Yes Moriarty has Aboriginal Ethnicity.

I didn't know Ashling Sumner was Eurasian Doesn't look it :lol: Are you sure it's not her mum who's Eurasian? That does explain that Ben Mitchell photo :lol: She has to be the least Asian looking Asian :lol:

Pam Boyanov is Russian hence her Facebook name being Boyanova :haha: Bulgarians have Russified names it seems...

I'm too lazy to check, but weren't you the one who told me to put Diatchenko as Ukrainian in the first place? :lol:



Yeah so then she doesn't count

No Kev did and I grilled him for a series of errors he made

 

[spiceboy]

Yvonne Cavallé Reimers mum is German
Sherazad Benamar (now Reix) is half Algerian
Irina Ramiliason parents come from Madagascar
Denise Muresan has Romanian roots

And most of Mexican, Colombian and Venezuelan ranked players have some Spanish heritage. As well as Argentinian players, athough there have more mixed European heritage than the Northen part of Latin America which is mainly Spanish.

 

[kvaker81]

What should I do about "Jewish"? Should I include a category for them and out Cohen, Errani, Fichman, Brengle, etc.?

Jedaism is both religion and ethnical group, as I already said. However, it's seen as ethnical group only by Jewish people, I think.
Also, Judaism is passed through by a mother, so I would include those with female Jewish roots in Jewish category AND in the other category by their fathers ethnicy. But I'm not sure we could have any way to know who is Jewish on these players side, unless they tell us. And most of them don't

 

[Daebak.]

No Kev did and I grilled him for a series of errors he made

I thought she was because of -ko and also on Wikipedia. My bad.

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[chingching]

I thought she was because of -ko and also on Wikipedia. My bad.

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I wasn't so angry about that one as the others. I understand why you would think she was because of her last name and it is a Ukrainian name and therefore she does distantly have Ukrainian ancestry. I just had a rant and she was another mistake you made so I pointed you out on it It's amazing how many people are Ukrainian Such a wonderful country

Also I can't believe I forgot to mention Ana Konjuh who is half Slovenian and was born in Maribor

Jedaism is both religion and ethnical group, as I already said. However, it's seen as ethnical group only by Jewish people, I think.
Also, Judaism is passed through by a mother, so I would include those with female Jewish roots in Jewish category AND in the other category by their fathers ethnicy. But I'm not sure we could have any way to know who is Jewish on these players side, unless they tell us. And most of them don't

It's not really an Ethnic group... You can not be ethnically Jewish really... I mean I know once upon a time but due to the transitional nature of Jewish culture it isn't really an Ethnic group any more

 

[*JR*]

So how to classify Anna Smashnova? Jewish ethnic Byelorussian (BLR's President Lukashenko admires Hitler) who played for ISR, including while living in ITA with her ex husband Pistolesi.

 

[Corswandt]

Garcia has a Spanish father

Named Louis Paul?

 

[kvaker81]

It's not really an Ethnic group... You can not be ethnically Jewish really... I mean I know once upon a time but due to the transitional nature of Jewish culture it isn't really an Ethnic group any more

Did you read all I wrote? I said that it mostly is seen as ethnical group by Jewish people. Others mostly don't see it like this. If you'd lived here, you'd see the logic.
I can not consider myself a Russian, though by world's logic I am Russian. I do consider myself Jewish. It's a logic that's hard to explain, but it works perfectly here :lol: People come from EVERYWHERE, but one thing that makes us one nation and country is we all are Jewish. Argentinians, Russians, Morrocans, European Jews...nobody would EVER consider themselves to be from ethnical group they were born at, because we consider Judaism an ethnical group I don't know how else to explain it, tbh..

 

[chingching]

Did you read all I wrote? I said that it mostly is seen as ethnical group by Jewish people. Others mostly don't see it like this. If you'd lived here, you'd see the logic.
I can not consider myself a Russian, though by world's logic I am Russian. I do consider myself Jewish. It's a logic that's hard to explain, but it works perfectly here :lol: People come from EVERYWHERE, but one thing that makes us one nation and country is we all are Jewish. Argentinians, Russians, Morrocans, European Jews...nobody would EVER consider themselves to be from ethnical group they were born at, because we consider Judaism an ethnical group I don't know how else to explain it, tbh..

Is that why Jews are so exclusive as a group?

So how to classify Anna Smashnova? Jewish ethnic Byelorussian (BLR's President Lukashenko admires Hitler) who played for ISR, including while living in ITA with her ex husband Pistolesi.

Now that's a former USSR state which you can hate on :yeah:

Also, with the -ova endings, aside from accents/alphabets how can you tell which group the person comes from?

 

[kvaker81]

Is that why Jews are so exclusive as a group?

Probably. We always had problems for it, but it's part of us

Also, with the -ova endings, aside from accents/alphabets how can you tell which group the person comes from?

You can't, really. Not these days. My family name is Polish. Nobody in my family is even close to being Polish :lol: My grandfather was Jewish, my grandmother was Russian. Family name is not Jewish, but Polish. I have an idea where it came from, but nobody ever lived at the place it must've came from. Also, I know totally Russian people with same family name. And also totally Jewish ones :lol:
With USSR countries you never know what was the past of the family name, cos they all moved around at one time or another, changed their names a lot etc. Who knows, maybe my grandfather's folks just changed the family name just as he Russified his personal name later from Jewish to Russian :shrug: Same goes to other USSR born players, IMO.

 

[Daebak.]

How come Pervaks surname isn't Pervakova or smth like that.

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[Daebak.]

Btw on Wikipedia for Paszek

"Her mother is a Chilean-born Austrian of Polish and French descent; and her father, Ariff Mohamed, a Tanzanian-born, Kenyan-raised Canadian Muslim of Indian descent. It is because of her maternal grandfather that Tamira has a Polish surname."

Tricky one :spit: I'd probably just list Polish, French and Indian.

How come she doesn't take up her dad's surname??

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[Daebak.]

How come wiki lists Sema sisters have French descents. Maybe their father was a French born in Algeria?

Also chingching, Marina Shamayko?