Dopa ahead of Henin is crazy, she is nowhere near Justine.

I'd switch Iga with Kim for now, but it's far more credible than Sharapova who was always a second fiddle above Justine who is more accomplished and had her time at the top.

 

If that’s the case then Venus should below both given the timeframe listed…..

 

Mostly a good list but I'd make some tweaks based on dominance, longevity, and impact.

I'd say:
1. Serena
2. Venus
3. Henin
4. Sharapova
5. Swiatek
6. Clijsters
7. Osaka
8. Kerber
9. Capriati
10. Barty

 

Mostly a good list but I'd make some tweaks based on dominance, longevity, and impact.

I'd say:
1. Serena
2. Venus
3. Henin
4. Sharapova
5. Swiatek
6. Clijsters
7. Osaka
8. Kerber
9. Capriati
10. Barty

That’s the list I would have.
I can’t believe they left Jen off, in favour of Mauresmo

I’d probably have Kim above Iga just now though, on account of her better overall slam results.

 

Pova over Henin also, technically 2 Venus' Slams came in 20th century so even she should be below Henin though I’m not mad she’s 2nd

 

Muricans don't know the century mathematics

 

If they are promoting breadth of excellence across all surfaces over depth of excellence on a surface, Sharapova over Henin makes sense, but then it doesn't make sense for Barty to rank behind Osaka.

 

Not only slams but another factor (doping) should have prompted them to place Shazza below Justine — especially given that they seem to have made simlar judgent and discounted Halep (a more successful two slam holder than Momo).

 

They should make it on the basis on the forecasted count of Slams, so that Coco can be no.1

 

Legit shocked they left Gauff off. Not because she deserves to be on there, but because it's ESPN

 

1. Henin ahead of Sharapova.
2. Barty ahead of Osaka.

 

Barty ahead of Osaka.

Disagree. Barty didn't really beat any good players to win her slams.

 

Actually shocking ESPN did not include Capriati. Agree with everyone. Sharapova should be behind Henin. I'd also put Barty over Osaka for her dominance at #1. Kim in front of Iga (for now) and then Capriati at #10 over Mauresmo.

 

Good list overall, I'll make some small chances but it's decent. But yeah Henin is definitely ahead of Sharapova.

 

Barty was better and far more dominant than Osaka... but Osaka in a good head space probably beats her in 3. It's tough between those two because Osaka is not always happy or confident, especially on clay. Barty was a monument of consistency.

 

Barty was better and far more dominant than Osaka... but Osaka in a good head space probably beats her in 3. It's tough between those two...

Barty. The girl was literally relevant for 2 1/2 of the shittiest years the WTA will ever have. I saw her autobiography on Amazon under animal wildlife, cause she was the ultimate vulture. Then I saw it under social studies for her abuse of crazy people and bums in the later stages of Slams.

Where the hell is Capriati anyway? She could snort the whole coke stash of Colombia and would still pummel Barty.

 

Wow. That was a loaded statement.

It is no secret Osaka suffers from inconsistency and has an anxiety disorder. Sometimes her demeanor on court gets her booed wildly. It's tough to compare barty the rugby playing workhorse who wins when she should and loses when she should and Osaka who did the opposite for several years. It's not Barty's fault Osaka stopped playing well. Their h2h is 2-2. Osaka has way more raw talent, but barty was so dominant at number one announcers were saying she could beat a team of doubles.

 

The right players are on this list (maybe except Mauresmo). And that's a good thing. Could be different because it's ESPN... Strange things happen there. But yeah, small changes in the order could also be made here and there. Details. Overall the weight and impact on the game of these players from 1-5 and 6-10 is correct (5 slams titles makes the cut).
The small changes:
1. Serena
2. Henin
3. Venus
4. Iga
5. Sharapova
6. Clijsters
7. Barty
8. Osaka
9. Kerber
10. Capriati

 

Justine should be 2nd or tied with Venus. Sharapova is not ahead of her by any metric and has a losing head to head with Justine. Justine won 43 titles and Sharapova has 39. Justine won 7 slams and Sharapova won 5. Justine spent 117 weeks at world number one whereas Maria spent 21 weeks there. Justine has a gold medal. Maria has a silver medal. Juju Leads the head to head 7 to 3. Case closed.

 

Yes. But apparently actual facts/records don't come into it

 

Sharapova - we are truly living in magnificent era,when legit cheater is still on the all time best list.
You go girl.
Henin behind Sharapova also makes no sense, from all angles.
The rest of the list is in correct order - propably not for long.

 

My list will be similar, yet not exactly the same.

1. Serena
2. Henin
3. Venus
4. Sharapova
5. Clijsters
= Iga
7. Barty
8. Osaka
9. Kerber
10. Kvitova

 

That's the lazy kind of list that was to be expected of today's slam counters. Because that's all they are doing. Also, to which century does someone belong whose career is half in 20th century and half in 21st? (Let's say more than half in 21st is counted as 21st)

In my opinion, should be... (That's all by the numbers, not personal preference)

1 Serena Williams
2 Henin
3 Sharapova
4 Venus Williams
5 Clijsters
6 Swiatek
7 Azarenka
8 Mauresmo
9 Wozniacki
10 Capriati

3&4 is within margin of error, as is 8,9&10.

The problem with players like Barty & Osaka is their length of career. Yes, they won slams, but that's not the only thing that should count. Osaka at least still has the opportunity to rise into that list (and I think she will). On a list of peak years they would of course rank a lot higher.

 

All those players have a higher peak than IGA and aren't clay one tricks

 

Last time I looked the US Open, Indian Wells, Doha and various others of her wins weren't played on clay.

 

1. Serena
2. Henin
3. Venus
4. Swiatek
5. Sharapova
6. Clijsters
7. Osaka
8. Kerber
9. Barty
10. Kvitova

 

Kvitova is my favorite female player and better than Kerber imo. Just not as consistent. Kvitova always seems to unnesscessarily go to 3 sets, but when she's on, she'd blast Kerber off the court. Good pick.

 

Henin should be above Dopapova, Clijsters above Swiatek, and Barty above Osaka - but I'd also throw in that it doesn't feel right not to have Kvitova in the top 10, even with less slams than Capriati/not World Number One like Mauresmo.

 

Were would Azarenka be? Top 12-15?

 

She'd be in that range with Sabalenka, Capriati, Kuznetsova (?), Wozniacki, Kvitova, Muguruza right?

 

Henin goes above Sharapova for me.

Barty, Kerber and Capriati go above Osaka.

 

Henin is definitely the best player of the 21st century after Serena. But I could understand why an American could put Venus above Henin. Sharapova above Henin though is simply idiotic. There is no intelligent case whatsoever that could be made for this.

 

Henin is definitely the best player of the 21st century after Serena. But I could understand why an American could put Venus above Henin. Sharapova above Henin though is simply idiotic. There is no intelligent case whatsoever that could be made for this.

It's ESPN.

 

Even Sharapova herself probably knows she belongs below Henin.

 

No Mirra Andreeva?

 

A titleless pusher? Come on

 

1.Serena
2.Henin
3.Venus
4.Sharapova
5.Iga
6.Clijsters
7.Capriati..Barty..?