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I got laughed to my face when telling this ½ year ago. So new try :)

Russians are coming, all have seen them but those in bunkers haven´t realized big picture. U.S. has dominated womens tennis for ... well about as long as can remember. Time has come to change all that (from what movie is that... ?)

No 1 & 2 guns namely pair of Williamse´s are struggling to be fit for 10+ tournamets/year. Wonder why... Old guns Seles,Davenport,Capriati are done. Well in couple years anyway. That leaves U.S. hopes to shoulders of .......hmmmm.......... Harkleroad ? Shaughnessy........ ? In other words U.S.T.A. is dead on womens side ?

I know that is very hard to accept, specially those on other side of pond, BUT... (I might have a point)
 

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I hope a Russian can win here. I just dont want an American winner, I want some more European winners, as long as it aint JHH
 

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Everyone is still laughing at you. :lol: :lol: korben :lol: :lol:
I know. But care to tell who from U.S. of A is in Top 10 in 2008 ? My guess, still. None. But you should know better :rolleyes:
 

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JENNIFER and Lindsay are still in the draw :rolleyes:

As in the long term , The US really doesn't have any really GOOD player who could dominate the WTA in the years to come (not that i am aware of atleast )
 

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korben said:
I got laughed to my face when telling this ½ year ago. So new try :)

Russians are coming, all have seen them but those in bunkers haven´t realized big picture. U.S. has dominated womens tennis for ... well about as long as can remember. Time has come to change all that (from what movie is that... ?)

No 1 & 2 guns namely pair of Williamse´s are struggling to be fit for 10+ tournamets/year. Wonder why... Old guns Seles,Davenport,Capriati are done. Well in couple years anyway. That leaves U.S. hopes to shoulders of .......hmmmm.......... Harkleroad ? Shaughnessy........ ? In other words U.S.T.A. is dead on womens side ?

I know that is very hard to accept, specially those on other side of pond, BUT... (I might have a point)
U gotta point and it aint that hard to accept cuz the European girls was dominatin until bout 5 years ago. Remember boo Miss Lindsay was the first player born in the States to win a Slam when she won the US Open in '98. In '97 Queen Vee was the first American born player to be in a Slam final since Miss Zina in '90. So us not dominatin aint nothin new to us.

Let the Russian girls bring it. I'll be given snaps to them especially my girl Miss Nadia. :cool:
 

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U gotta point and it aint that hard to accept cuz the European girls was dominatin until bout 5 years ago.
Ummm, Hingis dominated for couple years, Graf and Seles were pretty equal (Ok both european) before them Evart-Navratilova were in slam finals every year... hmm. actually there is only one american born in those so maybe I deserve to be laughed at :confused: :lol:
 

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korben said:
Ummm, Hingis dominated for couple years, Graf and Seles were pretty equal (Ok both european) before them Evart-Navratilova were in slam finals every year... hmm. actually there is only one american born in those so maybe I deserve to be laughed at :confused: :lol:
Uh huh all of the 90s until Miss Lindsay was European girls. Besides who u said u can add Miss Arancha. Miss Conchi, Miss Jana and Miss Iva won Slams. Miss Mary play for France won 2 Slams. The 90's was all bout Europe. Even after Miss Lindsay final broke the streak Miss Marti and Miss Steffi won Slams in '99. :cool:
 

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Well, most American tennis fans never really supported the top two American tennis players anyway. :) I don't think too many people will be upset.
 

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europe is not a country its a continent is the tennis in your own country that dismal that you must claim an entire continent to have a grandslam winner of your own? :confused:
 
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Get real and wake up korben! Head-to-Head "the Russians" as you put it are collectively 2-55 lifetime against Venus & Serena ALONE. And I'm absolutely certain that their record against Lindsay, Monica, Jennifer, Chanda and other Americans is just as bad. Your point of view is not only DEAD WRONG but laughably ABSURD based on the actual, real EVIDENCE...WINNING is what counts in sports not a lot of bullshit talk. Until the Americans are actually consistently BEATEN by the Russians or the Belgians or whatever pretenders you or others want to parade on this board all you're doing is TALKING LOUD & SAYING NOTHING!
 

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europe is not a country its a continent is the tennis in your own country that dismal that you must claim an entire continent to have a grandslam winner of your own? :confused:
Well in golf they have Ryder Cup so why can´t compare U.S. and Yurop in tennis too ? (You yanks are so damn good that one or two little countries can´t compete alone...) :confused: :D :rolleyes:

Like finns could beat U.S. in anything ? (except ice-hockey and mobilephone manufacturing....)

And "the Russians" was to mension that new era is reaching. Most have seen it. Not all I have to notice :sad:

and "Informative" Graf vs. Europe/Russia is pretty ugly too :( :rolleyes:
 

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Get real and wake up korben! Head-to-Head "the Russians" as you put it are collectively 2-55 lifetime against Venus & Serena ALONE. And I'm absolutely certain that their record against Lindsay, Monica, Jennifer, Chanda and other Americans is just as bad. Your point of view is not only DEAD WRONG but laughably ABSURD based on the actual, real EVIDENCE...WINNING is what counts in sports not a lot of bullshit talk. Until the Americans are actually consistently BEATEN by the Russians or the Belgians or whatever pretenders you or others want to parade on this board all you're doing is TALKING LOUD & SAYING NOTHING!
Here's the problem though, Informative - ironically considering your username, at present you are 0-288 lifetime in interesting and original posts on this board. Until you start consistently producing intelligent and entertaining posts then you yourself are also talking loud and saying nothing, beyond mindless regurgitation of statistics.
 

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I know. But care to tell who from U.S. of A is in Top 10 in 2008 ? My guess, still. None. But you should know better :rolleyes:
In 2008 Maria Sharapova will be no. 1 from the US (I think she will immigrate). But actually, he has a point. The sistas have indicated to me at least that they aren't going to play beyond 26 or 27 (maybe earlier for Venus), which puts us at about a 2006 retirement for Venus, and a 2008/2009 retirement for Serena. As for the up and comers, Shaughnessy will likely be a top ten player if you ask me (once she gets her head together), but I don't see her as a slam winner. Gullickson is probably the most talented teenager, which is really REALLY scary. So as an american, I am not laughing at you, I agree you have a point.

Matt's predicions for year end top ten 2008:
1. Maria Sharapova
2. JHH
3. Tatiana Golovin
4. Serena Williams
5. Kim Clijsters
6. Barbora Strykova:confused:
7. Amelie Mauresmo
8. *insert random Russian here*
9. *insert random Russian here*
10. Meghan Shaughnessy
 

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it could be the start. in a few more years it will be over. when lindsay, monic and jen are gone. unless stevenson somehow picks up her game and plays well consistently and shaughnessy also improves and maybe a junior like gullickson or someone like harkleroad picks things up.

imo russians will be replacing these top players. they are the only ones i see that have that potential at the moment (there are a couple of juniors that are like 14 that i think can do it though - krajicek, kleybanova and vaidisova). i'm persoanlly hoping that kaia kanepi can get into the top 10 she had such a great junior career at such a young age but i know that's a bit unrealistic looking at where she is now.
 

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3. Tatiana Golovin
6. Barbora Strykova:confused:
mboyle :worship:

Have to disagree with those two. Specially Strycova, she ain´t that good. Played in juniors too long so got a career high in there. Better than Salerni (former no: 1 too) but still way off the best. Maybe "Coetzer" of the future. Best I see her reach is one or two slam semis/QFs and that is that. (Sorry Barbora fans)

And no 1 pick looks good to me. Although "old" russians or JH-H / Kim might have a good grip of that (don´t mension Kuznetsova, I got a way with it, once)
 

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Cybelle Darkholme said:
europe is not a country its a continent is the tennis in your own country that dismal that you must claim an entire continent to have a grandslam winner of your own? :confused:
:lol: :lol: I've forgotten the name of the last slam winner from Finland, maybe Korben can enlighten me. ;)
 
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