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Emma's Current Status, with regard to Injuries etc. (And other relevant matters that don't slot comfortably into existing Threads)

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#1 ·
Just thought I'd start this as suggested. (If anyone wants to start another with a better title, please do. Or, it may be possible to edit the Thread title.)
 
#10 ·
Good point actually - she could combine the clinic she was allegedly meant to do with a holiday too, not a bad place to try and rest an injury! Although the clinic will still require her to play tennis (albeit a low level) so not sure that will help her if she’s meant to be resting her wrist…
 
#13 ·
Personally don’t see any harm in this thread being used, it’s not as if there’s a limit on the number of threads allowed (as far as I’m aware). In any event, it’s a thread completely specific to injury talk only so I’m not against having it!
 
#16 ·
I agree with others - I don’t think there’s any point to this thread. Quite negative to have a thread just for injuries. And for what purpose? Just to speculate and be down in the dumps? We don’t have access to her medical records so there’s no point. I agree with Wobs that discussion of injuries related to tournaments should go in her scheduling thread or if it’s related to her physio/coaching set up it can be discussed there. Articles could go in the article thread if necessary but what’s the use of posting article after article about her injury all saying the same thing?
 
#18 ·
This will be a useful thread if people use it - and not if they don't.

I appreciate some threads have a specific focus, but in general I'd recommend not getting too hung up about who should post what where.

If we're not careful we'll end up with a committee and someone taking the minutes:eek:

For instance, I see no harm in starting a new thread about Emma's current injury. It will thrive in the short term - and then die. Such is the normal nature of thread life on a forum. Like little butterflies. :)
 
#19 ·
Emma gets a lot of injuries so I have a feeling this thread will be used more often than we want. There is nothing stopping Emma from becoming another Tsurenko injury-wise which is the biggest worry and something I think other fans should prepare for. Emma's rise isn't normal, but this is really not normal either.
 
#20 ·
Personally what worries me is that people who knew Emma as a junior said her junior career was often hampered by injuries too - someone on here said earlier that she had a wrist injury as a junior which kept her out of action for months. No doubt her body is trying to get used to the rigour of the WTA tour, but it doesn’t help that it appears she’s very injury prone regardless of that. 😕
 
#28 ·
Correct me if I’m wrong, Wasn’t Novak supposedly injury prone at the beginning of his career, but got it under control with hiring a full time physio. So there is still hope for Emma. Also Swiatek had foot surgery at beginning of her senior career where she was out for months.
 
#33 ·
It was me. This is what I wrote.

Just for context, I’ve had a look at Emma’s only full year on the professional tour before 2021, between Feb/March 2019 and March 2020.

She was playing ITF level tournaments. In that time apart from one 15k, she upgraded to 25k tournaments. Playing 10 tournaments in total. 6 of these in the UK. 1 in Europe, 1 in Israel and 2 in India. Her highest rank opponent was Paula Badosa whom she beat in Sunderland, but most opponents were much lower ranked. She did not play a tournament between April and September, presumably focusing on her GCSEs. One retirement in India due to food poisoning and an injury in February 2020, otherwise no evidence of injury. She had no mainstream media attention.

As we know, she only played domestically until Nottingham in 2021. And that was a light schedule although she did get to play the best UK women.

Compare that to her schedule between September 2021 and September 2022 to get a full year comparison. She has played Grand Slams, 1000s, 500s and 250s. Playing 22 tournaments in total (including the BJK cup) In doing so she has travelled across the World on a regular basis. Her highest ranked opponent was Iga Swiatek against whom she put up a respectable performance and all of her opponents were seasoned pros. She gets media and fan attention wherever she plays.

Rather than being disappointed at her performance this year, it’s actually remarkable to me that she has done as well as she has. Apart from anything else to keep going and to make the progress we have seen since the US Open. And although we often talk about this being her first full year on the WTA tour, when you look at the two years side by side the jump is really obvious. I personally am in awe. As I’ve said before, I struggle with the stress of simply following her career 😂
 
#34 ·
It was me. This is what I wrote.

Just for context, I’ve had a look at Emma’s only full year on the professional tour before 2021, between Feb/March 2019 and March 2020.

She was playing ITF level tournaments. In that time apart from one 15k, she upgraded to 25k tournaments. Playing 10 tournaments in total. 6 of these in the UK. 1 in Europe, 1 in Israel and 2 in India. Her highest rank opponent was Paula Badosa whom she beat in Sunderland, but most opponents were much lower ranked. She did not play a tournament between April and September, presumably focusing on her GCSEs. One retirement in India due to food poisoning and an injury in February 2020, otherwise no evidence of injury. She had no mainstream media attention.

As we know, she only played domestically until Nottingham in 2021. And that was a light schedule although she did get to play the best UK women.

Compare that to her schedule between September 2021 and September 2022 to get a full year comparison. She has played Grand Slams, 1000s, 500s and 250s. Playing 22 tournaments in total (including the BJK cup) In doing so she has travelled across the World on a regular basis. Her highest ranked opponent was Iga Swiatek against whom she put up a respectable performance and all of her opponents were seasoned pros. She gets media and fan attention wherever she plays.

Rather than being disappointed at her performance this year, it’s actually remarkable to me that she has done as well as she has. Apart from anything else to keep going and to make the progress we have seen since the US Open. And although we often talk about this being her first full year on the WTA tour, when you look at the two years side by side the jump is really obvious. I personally am in awe. As I’ve said before, I struggle with the stress of simply following her career 😂
Thanks for that Novice. I wonder how Emma's year's before she joined the professional tour from 2018 to 2020 compare to what other teenagers would typically do? Maybe if I get chance I will look at people like Leylah and Clara and see what they experienced in terms of number of tournaments etc during these early years. 🙂
 
#37 ·
I predicted that the wrist injury would catch up with her back at the US Open. I posted:

"I know you guys want to stay positive but you can't solve a wrist injury with a painkiller. She likely had a cortezone injection. This won't cure it either. It's just a temporary fix. If I was her doctor I'd advise a withdrawal - why risk even longer term damage? It's not worth it for the points..."

On the bright side she now has loads of time to prepare for the next season. Investment in conditioning and allowing the body to heal will produce dividends, particularly if she wants to perfect this aggressive power game. Young bodies are not used to this type of punishment so it tends to be an incremental process. The problems will be resolved with physical maturity and a professional fitness programme designed to meet the needs of top class tennis players. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that there will be significant improvement in fitness levels next year. Once she is at a good level she will recover from injuries much easier and take less time to get back to a top level. I'm convinced she has the game to beat anyone - she already has. It's all the other pieces of the jigsaw that are not yet in place.
 
#40 ·
Hand & Wrist Institute Full Article

Extract from full article:

How a tennis players grip the racquet can also contribute to the amount of load delivered to the wrist. For example, players who hold the racquet using the Eastern grip have higher chances of radial-sided wrist injuries such as DeQuervain syndrome, Intersection syndrome, and FCR tenosynovitis, while those players with Western and semi-Western grip have higher ulnar-sided wrist injuries like extensor carpi ulnaris injuries.

Athletes and amateur players should perform warm-up exercises before starting a game. Hand and wrist muscles exercises should be encouraged to strengthen the appropriate muscles. Young players should rest between sets to aid muscle recovery. In the case of injuries, players should ensure that the wrist heals properly before resuming play.

The number one thing that causes hand and wrist injuries is an extremely tight grip. This tends to place a player’s wrists in unusual positions that make them more likely to become injured. In order to reduce the risk, athletes should grasp their racquet firmly without squeezing on it.

Certain types of strings can also increase the odds of injury. Polyester strings are stiffer, and therefore cause more vibration to the hands and wrist whenever the ball is hit. Natural gut or nylon strings are somewhat softer, and do not transmit much vibration to the upper extremities. Players can sometimes benefit from changing out their polyester strings, especially when injuries tend to recur frequently in their dominant hand.

Hand and wrist strengthening exercises should be performed as a part of every tennis training program. Many of these exercises can also help increase one’s range of motion, thereby making elbow injuries less likely as well. Conditioning exercises can be performed using light hand weights or resistance bands, and should take no more than five minutes to complete.

Before beginning play, it can be important to stretch the wrist in order to loosen it up somewhat. An effective stretch involves bending the wrist down and flexing the fingers upward. After holding for around 15 seconds, the fingers can then be directed downward in order to stretch the top part of the wrist. Stretches should be performed on both hands for maximum effectiveness. The same stretches should be done as part of a cool down routine as well.
 
#42 ·
Has anyone in EE been hampered by tennis wrist or shoulder injury or pain? I stopped playing recreational tennis due to continual wrist and shoulder issues. I'd stop playing to recover and then pick it up sometime later and just get injured again :rolleyes:. I had polyester strings at a high tension which had great control but was tough on my wrist, then the local tennis shop changed it to something more forgiving, which had less control, but I didn't like that too much. Haven't played in several years now :oops: