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There's a coup going on right now in Bolivia.


They're burning and looting the houses of the politicians of the Socialist Party, including the president and vice-president, both resigned. Senators, governors, mayors and ministers had the same and did the same.

Police was in mutiny.





https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/10/bolivian-president-evo-morales-resigns-after-election-result-dispute



Here in the middle is the supposed civilian leader of the coup with a bible, a flag, a cap and a soccer jersey, inside the presidential palace after invading it today:




Noam Chomsky says the coup is assisted by the U.S., and plan B was the assassination of the president of Bolivia:
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2019/11/09/we-stand-against-the-coup-in-bolivia-statement-from-noam-chomsky-and-vijay-prashad/
 

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The coup is supported by a large part of the population and the police. Morales changed the constitution for an extra term and there are strong suspicions he committed election fraud.

Another political leader who starts hopeful and beloved but ends up overstaying his welcome thinking he is the only one who knows what's good for the country and it's therefore okay to cheat democracy. Probably has his clique and financial benefits to protect as well. What a tiresome cliche.
 

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I do care.

You know, I am a big fan of socialism happening in other countries than mine. And I always love the outcome.

Poverty, destruction, and all that comes with it. Just lovely. Bolivia, you did great. On to the next country that needs to be devastated and left in ruins. Can't wait.
 

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Bolivia has had problems ever since the CIA used Klaus Barbie to kill Che Guevera there in the 60's...

the CIA completely messed up the country thereafter.
 

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I do care.

You know, I am a big fan of socialism happening in other countries than mine. And I always love the outcome.

Poverty, destruction, and all that comes with it. Just lovely. Bolivia, you did great. On to the next country that needs to be devastated and left in ruins. Can't wait.
You sound creepy and déja-vu.





 

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President for over 14 years? Constitution amended to give himself extra powers and the possibility of serving for extra terms? Fraud to win the latest elections? Sounds like a coup was necessary, thankfully they did it before he became too powerful.

Look at how horrible things are in Venezuela, and how entrenched and powerful Maduro's, Putin's, Ping's and Erdrogan's regimes are. There's still hope for Bolivia.
 

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I see the dirty American propaganda is already working full force. Nevermind that Morales actually agreed to re-run the elections, like the brutal dictator he is, but that wasn't enough for the opposition. Nevermind that the American organizations like CIA have historically supported every coup in Latin America.

I am firmly anti-socialist but I am also anti-interventionist. Bolivia has long been the poorest South American country. Let their socialist policies speak for themselves, imperialistic tactics only provide the socialists an excuse to play the victim card.
 

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US once again gets its dirty fingers in the pie to plunder resources and get rid of their old weapons. In any case, a leader is born every day, I don't believe in ruling a country for more than a decade - two terms maximum. I saw Morales a few years ago in Chile, and instead of joining other presidents for first class cuisine, he came to our cafeteria to come eat there - ceviche.

I believe in a mixed-economy, where basic social services are provided - things like free primary health care, free government schools, social grants, etc. Unfortunately not all of us can be successful start-up entrepreneurs, go to university, etc. some people fall through the cracks and government should be able to support these individuals.
 

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You sound creepy and déja-vu.
Why do I sound creepy? Cos I make fun of countries choosing in democratic elections to choose socialism? They deserve no better. For a 100 years, the outcome has always been the same. So how do they expect it do be better in their countries? Ridiculous.
 

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I do care.

You know, I am a big fan of socialism happening in other countries than mine. And I always love the outcome.

Poverty, destruction, and all that comes with it. Just lovely. Bolivia, you did great. On to the next country that needs to be devastated and left in ruins. Can't wait.

So Bolivia had no poverty before Morales?
 
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