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I say YES.

She should have never went to play with the men, what good did it do? Everyone now is going to say "women's golf sucks because the #1 dominant player got spanked in the pga". Women should stick to their tours and men should stick to their tours.

Selesrules offers a very big :rolleyes: at Annika Sorenstam.
 

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Of course not! She did okay considering the immense amount of pressure she was under. Annika finished ahead of Mark Brooks who has won a men's grand slam title. The PGA tournament.

She had one good round and one bad round.

Annika doesn't hit the ball far enough off the tee to play well on the men's tour. And she didn't putt well, either. In fact, it's her putting that has caused her to lose LPGA major championships before.

But you're going to have to get used to women occasionally playing on the PGA Tour in the future. Because there are big hitters out there on the LPGA and in the Amatuers who will compete on the PGA Tour in the future. The PGA is for the best golfers. Not the best men's golfers.
 

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I don't think so.Considering she got a standing ovation at the end of her second round i think people were impressed.
 

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Shouldn't be judged on one performance.

She was in a lose/lose situation. Had she done well the women would put more pressure on her to 'keep it up', had she done not so well, the men would have slated her.

She done alright first round, poor second round
 

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No she did not. Annnika played very well considering the circumstances. I saw her play and she was very good if not better than some of them. Her putting let her down.
 

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I don't think that she did a bad job at all.

But if a WTA player had lost to an ATP player by the scores of say,
6-7(8), 4-6, you can bet your life that there would be all kinds of slings and arrows thrown at the woman. Everyone would have said, "see, women are totally and completely inferior to men. :fiery:
 

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People who were against this in the first place will gladly say that she "embarassed herself" - as will sexist neandrathals, like the guy who was on OTR the other night :D

But I think that most are able to see that she didn't fare too badly. Nobody expected her to win. She wasn't trying to prove she was better than the men, she was trying to see how she stacked up. There was a difference. Nobody (worth listening to) has ever tried to debate that she could beat Tiger Woods. Considering the pressure she was under, she performed very well. Her first day she outshot Sergio Garcia :D
 

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selesrules said:
I say YES.

She should have never went to play with the men, what good did it do? Everyone now is going to say "women's golf sucks because the #1 dominant player got spanked in the pga". Women should stick to their tours and men should stick to their tours.

Selesrules offers a very big :rolleyes: at Annika Sorenstam.
yuo are only 14 or 15, YUO know nothing about golf

i correctly predicted in another thread that Annika prolly wouldn't make the cut, but she would put in a good performance and there would be a lot of good players who would finish behind her - this has proved to be the case

also, on the last green she received a standing ovation for her effort. Let me tell yuo something dipshit, golf crowds are not like football crowds, like myself, most of them actually play the game and they appreciate a good player when they see one, regardless of sex

Colonial is a bitch of a course, and she was further handicapped by the soggy weather. I know this is a disadvantage because i often play with gurls and they will stuggle if they fail to hit the fairway and land in the rough. When yuo have long damp wet grass, yuo need very strong wrists to be able to punch through it. If i land in the rough, usually i'm still able to fly the ball to the green, whereas a gurl can only lay up short and then hope for a good pitch and putt to get her par

now this particular tournament was an invitational tourny, it doesn't qualify for ranking points for the Order of Merit. In tennis terms, it was an exhibition tourny, therefore the organizers were within their rights to invite her without any requirement for playing qualifying rounds

if she had been granted entry for the US Open without qualifying, then i would say that she shouldn't have been allowed to play cos the US OPen IS a ranking tournament

anyways, her performance was pretty good especially giving the circumstances of the conditions and the media spotlight. She did NOT embarrass herself, anyone who says she did, knows jack shit about golf

and that includes YUO

dickass

that is all

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definately not! she did better than some of the guys that compete and there was a lot of pressure on her.
 

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selesrules is a pathetic piece of crap. If anyone said that a certain tennis player has been an embarrassment all year, this moron would first post every insulting smilie downloadable on the web, then start about a thread a day simply saying that she's fantastic. So here the best current player in the LPGA dosen't react badly to the pressure (though some poor tee shots early in round 2 basically ended her chance @ the cut), took chances to try to recover, and still managed 4 over for the round. (I guess if she wore a skimpy enough outfit, this troll might like her)! :rolleyes:
 

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it was her touch around the greens that let her down. Putting and short game on LPGA is nothing compared to the men. Doesn't matter if you hit every green if you take 33 putts
 

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Her up-and-down game is where she fell apart, but she did well. Good for her for having the guts to try it.
 

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I was going to reply........ but CKB said it all.

Yep, pretty much.
 

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Men who hasn't won a title at the PGA should start joining LPGA as well.;)
 

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Becca, what is OTR? :confused:
 

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How did she do well? She finished as one of the worst players for the tournament. :confused:

Pos. Player R1 R2 R3 R4 Hole Today Total Strokes
1 Kenny Perry 68 64 61 4 1 -1 -18 197
2 Rory Sabbatini 64 70 67 4 1 -1 -10 205
3 Stewart Cink 67 70 66 8 2 -1 -8 211
3 James Furyk 68 65 69 5 1 E -8 207
3 Justin Leonard 68 72 62 12 4 -4 -8 214
3 Patrick Sheehan 65 72 68 13 4 -3 -8 218
3 Jeff Sluman 68 68 67 8 2 -1 -8 211
3 Hal Sutton 71 67 65 8 2 -1 -8 211
9 Steve Flesch 69 66 69 8 2 -1 -7 212
9 Harrison Frazar 69 69 66 8 2 -1 -7 212
9 Frank Lickliter 68 66 70 8 2 -1 -7 212
9 Pat Bates 69 66 69 12 3 -1 -7 216
13 Alex Cejka 70 70 65 12 3 -1 -6 217
13 Dan Forsman 66 66 73 15 4 -1 -6 220
13 Briny Baird 70 68 68 18 5 -2 -6 224
13 Phil Mickelson 67 70 68 15 4 -1 -6 220
13 Tim Petrovic 68 66 72 22 6 -2 -6 228
13 Loren Roberts 67 69 70 22 6 -2 -6 228
13 Esteban Toledo 68 68 69 15 4 -1 -6 220
20 Jay Haas 69 70 67 19 5 -1 -5 225
20 Lee Janzen 71 67 70 32 9 -3 -5 240
20 Brandt Jobe 67 70 68 16 4 E -5 221
20 Nick Price 70 70 65 13 3 E -5 218
20 Marco Dawson 68 70 71 23 7 -4 -5 232
20 Dean Wilson 71 67 69 26 7 -2 -5 233
26 Fred Funk 70 67 69 24 6 E -4 230
26 Billy Mayfair 69 70 68 27 7 -1 -4 234
26 Rocco Mediate 68 72 68 33 9 -2 -4 241
26 Jesper Parnevik 66 68 73 34 9 -1 -4 241
26 Corey Pavin 68 70 69 27 7 -1 -4 234
26 Duffy Waldorf 67 70 71 33 9 -2 -4 241
32 Tim Herron 71 68 69 34 9 -1 -3 242
32 Shigeki Maruyama 70 68 70 38 10 -1 -3 246
32 Billy Andrade 68 68 71 31 8 E -3 238
32 Carl Pettersson 71 69 68 34 9 -1 -3 242
32 Olin Browne 67 71 68 21 5 +1 -3 227
32 Gene Sauers 69 68 70 31 8 E -3 238
32 John Senden 71 70 68 29 8 -2 -3 238
32 Scott Verplank 69 69 71 25 7 -2 -3 234
32 Jay Williamson 67 67 73 31 8 E -3 238
32 Bob Burns 69 70 70 29 8 -2 -3 238
42 Spike McRoy 67 72 71 22 6 -2 -2 232
43 Brandel Chamblee 70 69 70 27 7 E -1 236
43 Dudley Hart 70 71 68 31 8 E -1 240
43 Brett Quigley 67 72 69 36 9 +1 -1 244
43 Chad Campbell 67 67 74 40 10 +1 -1 248
47 Shaun Micheel 71 69 72 14 4 -2 E 226
47 Craig Parry 67 70 72 25 6 +1 E 234
47 Brian Henninger 70 69 71 24 6 E E 234
47 J.P. Hayes 70 71 71 14 4 -2 E 226
47 Joe Durant 70 70 71 15 4 -1 E 226
47 Kirk Triplett 69 71 70 24 6 E E 234
47 Brian Watts 67 71 72 20 5 E E 230
47 Cliff Kresge 68 70 73 15 4 -1 E 226
55 John Lewis 72 69 70 20 5 E +1 231
55 Mike Sposa 67 69 74 21 5 +1 +1 231
55 Glen Day 67 70 75 3 1 -1 +1 215
55 Greg Chalmers 68 71 72 16 4 E +1 227
59 Stephen Ames 67 72 74 3 1 -1 +2 216
59 Steve Elkington 72 68 70 29 7 +2 +2 239
59 Joey Sindelar 69 71 71 21 5 +1 +2 232
59 Jeff Brehaut 68 70 74 4 1 E +2 216
59 Bob Tway 69 70 73 9 2 E +2 221
59 Luke Donald 68 71 73 9 2 E +2 221
59 Woody Austin 70 67 72 30 7 +3 +2 239
59 Peter Jacobsen 72 68 71 17 4 +1 +2 228
67 Brenden Pappas 70 68 74 10 2 +1 +3 222
67 Tom Byrum 70 71 72 4 1 E +3 217
67 Brian Gay 68 69 76 - +3 213
67 Jonathan Kaye 73 67 72 17 4 +1 +3 229
67 Mark Calcavecchia 65 75 72 17 4 +1 +3 229
67 Len Mattiace 69 69 75 4 1 E +3 217
67 Rich Beem 68 69 76 - +3 213
74 Brent Geiberger 71 70 72 5 1 +1 +4 218
75 Fulton Allem 75 66 74 - +5 215
75 David Frost 69 71 75 - +5 215
CUT Cameron Beckman 70 72 - - - 142
CUT Jonathan Byrd 71 71 - - - 142
CUT Paul Goydos 70 72 - - - 142
CUT J.J. Henry 67 75 - - - 142
CUT Ian Leggatt 73 69 - - - 142
CUT Tom Lehman 73 69 - - - 142
CUT Rodney Pampling 75 67 - - - 142
CUT Tom Pernice Jr. 70 72 - - - 142
CUT Stuart Appleby 72 71 - - - 143
CUT Sergio Garcia 72 71 - - - 143
CUT Matt Gogel 68 75 - - - 143
CUT Skip Kendall 71 72 - - - 143
CUT Peter Lonard 70 73 - - - 143
CUT David Peoples 72 71 - - - 143
CUT John Rollins 70 73 - - - 143
CUT Chris Smith 71 72 - - - 143
CUT Tim Clark 70 74 - - - 144
CUT Scott Simpson 71 73 - - - 144
CUT Robert Gamez 75 70 - - - 145
CUT Per-Ulrik Johansson 69 76 - - - 145
CUT Arron Oberholser 76 69 - - - 145
CUT Carl Paulson 70 75 - - - 145
CUT Heath Slocum 72 73 - - - 145
CUT Annika Sorenstam 71 74 - - - 145
CUT Aaron Barber 72 74 - - - 146
CUT Mark Brooks 72 74 - - - 146
CUT Joel Edwards 73 73 - - - 146
CUT Bob Estes 73 74 - - - 147
CUT Geoff Ogilvy 72 75 - - - 147
CUT Dan Pohl 75 72 - - - 147
CUT James McLean 72 76 - - - 148
CUT Kevin Sutherland 76 72 - - - 148
CUT Craig Perks 73 76 - - - 149
CUT Scott McCarron 74 76 - - - 150
CUT Rod Curl 78 76 - - - 154

If the #1 women's player sucks that much, can you imagine the rest of the women on the LPGA? :confused: Annika should have stayed on the women's tour instead of embarrassing the women's game. That is all....
 

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Becca, what is OTR? :confused:

im assuming On The Record with Bob Costas... thou thats just my HBO-lovin mind at work, so i could be wrong.
 
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