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I know I will take alot of flack for this thread, but it's just how I feel. This is why I could never grasp the concept of Kim being world #1 because despite that title, people still know they can beat her. This is not to say that previous #1's couldn't lose, but the other player would be intimidated before they step on the court. The respect for Clijsters as a #1 is not quite there. Kim should cut back that schedule a bit and focus on winning some majors, and other big tournaments, and skip a few tier 2's along the way. You need rest Kim.
 

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caelestia said:
Geez...she's been no.1 for less than a week. Give it some time for players and fans to get used to the fact that she is on top of the rankings. She did lose her match today but even before the tournament started she was the heavy favourite to win this match and the tournament. This is still the first time she's lost before the semis of a tournament and the first time she's lost to someone outside the top 4, for the rest of the players, that still means 'intimidating'.
She lost to Ai Sugi earlier this year.
 

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Jakeev said:
This is the second post that you have successfully rebutted what the originator of this post had to say.

I am curious why he does not come or think about this himself instead showing his obvious bias against Kim Clijsters.
What biases do I have against Kim Clijsters, Jakeev?? I like Kim, but I am also going to keep it real, and say what I think. Oh and next time, say my name.
 

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irma said:
knizzle you like kim? who are you fooling;)
I like her alot!! She has a great attitude and seems like such a nice girl how could anyone not like her?? If you want to click on my name and look up the things I posted about Clijsters you will see all the good things I have said about her, but of course no one remembers that,m they only want to focus on the criticisms you make.
 

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jenglisbe said:
Joana - Kim has that potential, if she doesn't already possess it. She completely intimidated opponents at the start of the year...even Serena. After her win at the Championships and then blowing through the Sydney draw and then the first few rounds of the Australian Open, Kim was the player. That carried into the Serena match to 5-1 in the 3rd set. Then Kim choked, and the rest is history.

She intimidated Serena?? Someone who is intimidated doesn't come back from 5-1 to win 6 straight games to win, and then go on to win a GS title.

Someone who is intimidated would have lost 6-1. I can think of 2 people who were intimidated by their opponents at the Wimbledon semifinals, but I will :tape:
 

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jenglisbe said:
Knizzle - Anyone who doesn't think Serena was intimidated going into the SF is naive (or something). She was wound up tight for that match, as evidenced by her poor first set. She was nervous because Kim had been playing so well and everyone was picking her to win the whole thing.

I think people trumpet Serena's comeback in that match a bit much. Yes she began to play better and hung around, but Kim clearly got tentative and choked that 3rd set away.
Serena was tight that whole tournament. Are we forgetting the first round vs. Loit?? Did Loit intimidate her?? Serena was going for the "Serena Slam" so of course she was nervous and tight, but when it came down to it, she took it to Clijsters and there was nothing Kim could do. Why did Serena even win the second set if she was so intimidated?? She didn't even play that well to win the second set also. Then the blisters...
 

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jenglisbe said:
Kim choked - yes Serena played better, but Kim choked. Anyone remember her two doubles faults to open the 5-4 game?? She had 4 double faults in the entire 3-set match, and 2 of them came at the start of a game where she served for the match. She choked.
Why do you think she felt pressure?? Could it be because Serena lifted her game to unimaginable heights and won 3 games in a row??
 

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SerenaSlam said:
who said she wasn't in the posts before yours?

she just isn't intimidating. and to the comment of "give it time" you shouldn't need "time" what she has/is doing, she has been doing all year. the only thing she hasn't done, and needs to be "given time" is to win a slam.

time to see who she does as number 1 isn't the big factor. unlike when serena became number 1, her entire game became intimidating w/ how she plays.

kim hasn't done anything different besides cut back on errors, to make her game more intimidating. people know what to expect from her on court, and it isn't intimidating. people watch serena take out players lik Amelie on Clay 1-2 and Kim on hardcourts 4-2 respetcfully, and just have to be in aww. that is intimidating.

SerenaSlam I agree, the phrase "it's only a matter of time until she wins a slam" really doesn't go along with a #1 player. Kim fans/anti-Williams fans want to make this thread into someone hating on Kim, but it's not that at all. Serena is intimidating, Venus is too even though she hasn't been #1 since last year. Kim may develop this trait eventually. As much as people don't want to admit, winning slams bring you "true" respect on the tour, look at Justine.
 

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Hendouble said:
Well, exactly - therein lies the fundamental problem with women's tennis. But really, Clijsters will grow into her no. 1 mantle and the moment she wins a Slam, she will be utterly deserving of it. Jennifer Capriati didn't have to beat either Venus or Serena to win her two Australian Opens, but that did nothing to lessen her achievement.
Hendouble, you're right, but at that point the tour wasn't all about the Williams sisters. At that point there was still wonder about who would win each slam, now it's a surprise if a Williams doesn't make the final(I know this sounds funny, but that's just the way it is right now). Davenport, Capriati, Hingis, were all playing very well then. Now it is a four person tour, and it seems at the moment that Clijsters can't beat the other three. If she wins a slam she will gain respect, and she will start to build an aura of intimidation.
 
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