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Somebody knows if some player have had some case of doping?
 

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It has been widely speculated that Jennifer Capriati did the Mark McGuire thing and used performance enhancing drugs to aid in her comeback to the top of tennis. There is no evidence of this, except physical evidence. She is not just in better shape than before the 3 year hiatus, her body is visibly thicker, and it's not just muscle mass- a sure sign of steroidal therapy.
 

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they said sabatini was on dope when she kicked steffi's ass but that was only said by klaus hofsass who wanted steffi to be the best. still sabatini was never the same again after these accusations
 

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alfajeffster said:
There is no evidence of this, except physical evidence. She is not just in better shape than before the 3 year hiatus, her body is visibly thicker, and it's not just muscle mass- a sure sign of steroidal therapy.
You got that wrong. The sentence needed to stop at 'There is no evidence of this'. A visibly thicker body over a three year stretch from you mid to late 20's is a sign of .... going from your mid to late twneties. I defy you to find a single source on steroids that cites being 'visibly thicker' as a sign of steroid use. And far from being 'widely speculated, that speculation was limited to a few loudmouths on the internet, not one of whom offerred proof beyond Jenn's temper, the holding of which has never been her strong suit.

Bluntly, you haven't got a fucking clue.
 

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You got that wrong. The sentence needed to stop at 'There is no evidence of this'. A visibly thicker body over a three year stretch from you mid to late 20's is a sign of .... going from your mid to late twneties. I defy you to find a single source on steroids that cites being 'visibly thicker' as a sign of steroid use.

Bluntly, you haven't got a fucking clue.

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Volcana said:
You got that wrong. The sentence needed to stop at 'There is no evidence of this'. A visibly thicker body over a three year stretch from you mid to late 20's is a sign of .... going from your mid to late twneties. I defy you to find a single source on steroids that cites being 'visibly thicker' as a sign of steroid use. And far from being 'widely speculated, that speculation was limited to a few loudmouths on the internet, not one of whom offerred proof beyond Jenn's temper, the holding of which has never been her strong suit.

Bluntly, you haven't got a fucking clue.
Why do people become so violent when you mention steroids? It was mentioned and commented on by more than people in chat rooms. Nathalie Tauziat became very unpopular a few years ago when she suggested the very same thing, and she was talking about Jennifer, in case everyone has forgotten.
 

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alfajeffster said:
She is not just in better shape than before the 3 year hiatus, her body is visibly thicker, and it's not just muscle mass- a sure sign of steroidal therapy.

:eek: :eek: :eek: will that say I´m on stereoids as well :eek: :eek:

to te serious part. Are the WTA interested in dope tests? NO, so it is practically a free sone compared to many other sports :mad:
 

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I have no clue about dope but doesn't dope only make you stronger when you work hard anyway?
Many cinds of dope, if you talk about stereoids, it makes you stronger and you can take a lot more heavy training amongst other, it will also make you restitude faster, witch is important for touring tennisplayers.
 

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alfajeffster said:
Why do people become so violent when you mention steroids? It was mentioned and commented on by more than people in chat rooms. Nathalie Tauziat became very unpopular a few years ago when she suggested the very same thing, and she was talking about Jennifer, in case everyone has forgotten.
Jealousy makes people say strange things. Steroids DO have known symptoms. And they are the sorts of things that players in a locker room would see.

Acne, especially on the upper back.

Injuries involving ligaments tearing away from bone.

And of course, 'roid rage', which is NOT about yelling, its about physical violence.

It's also susceptible to detection duriong testing. For most players, that last is a 'so what'. But for Fed Cup and Olympic players, drug testing is real.

In Capriati's case, she shows virtually NONE of the symptoms of steroid use. (Unless of course, one counts her occasional detonations on court. WHich are no worse than one hears in many a corporate office, I might add.)
 

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Jealousy makes people say strange things. Steroids DO have known symptoms. And they are the sorts of things that players in a locker room would see.

Acne, especially on the upper back.

Injuries involving ligaments tearing away from bone.

And of course, 'roid rage', which is NOT about yelling, its about physical violence.

It's also susceptible to detection duriong testing. For most players, that last is a 'so what'. But for Fed Cup and Olympic players, drug testing is real.

In Capriati's case, she shows virtually NONE of the symptoms of steroid use. (Unless of course, one counts her occasional detonations on court. WHich are no worse than one hears in many a corporate office, I might add.)
You have several good points about steroid use, and it being noticeable. However, there are a multitude of performance enhancing products besides anabolic steriods which, since they keep coming out and are always being developed, are largely legal. Mark McGuire didn't use anabolic steriods, did he?
 

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Isn't Tatiana Panova under suspension for a doping violation at the moment?
A few weeks ago, there was talk on this board about Tatiana. Some people said she had psychological problems. Suffering from paranoia and stuff.
 

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American teen-ager Samantha Reeves tested positive for nandrolone in an out-of-competition test last year. The ITF did not impose sanctions because of ''exceptional circumstances''.

The ruling body said Reeves acted in ''good faith'' in taking a product she believed was for weight loss.

Lourdes Domoniguez was suspended for Cocaine use.

Volcana: Drug testing is prevelant in the WTA
they do in/out of competition testing
so i don't know where you only got they do drug tests at the Olympics/Fed Cup from ???

from WTA handbook
(G) In-Competition Testing
1. The in-competition testing of players shall occur at WTA Tour sanctioned or recognized tournaments and events as determined by the APA and approved by the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer. The selection of the tournaments or events shall remain confidential to all persons except those with a reasonable need to know of such testing in order to facilitate the testing procedures.
See Schedule 3 of this Program for guidelines for incompetition
testing.

2. A player may be notified that she has been selected for in-competition testing in conjunction with a WTA Tour sanctioned or recognized tournament or event in which she is participating at any time from the moment the first ball in the first match of the main draw is hit through and including immediately following the completion of the
player’s final match in the tournament. To the extent a player is participating in the qualifying draw of a WTA Tour sanctioned or recognized tournament or event, she may be notified that she has been selected for incompetition testing at any time from the moment the first
ball in the first match of qualifying is hit through and including immediately following the player’s final match in the tournament. The timing of in-competition testing, and the selection of players to be tested, will be within the discretion of the APA or his designee and approved by the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer. Players must appear
for testing at such time as they are requested to do so.

3. Any player who retires, is a no-show or forfeits a match or withdraws from the main draw or qualifying draw after the first match has commenced must submit to on-site testing at the time of the withdrawal if requested to do so. If the withdrawing player is not on site at the time of withdrawal, the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer may require that the player appears for off-site testing at a specified time and location. A player who is selected for an in-competition test that is so conducted off-site may be required to contribute to the cost of an off-site test, in an amount not to exceed US$1,000.

4. If a player fails or refuses to submit to testing at any time as provided herein or otherwise fails or refuses to comply with the provisions of this Program pursuant to an incompetition test, then the APA shall notify the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer that such player has failed or refused to submit to the provisions of the Program and that,
subject to Section L, the player has committed a Doping Offense under Section (C)2(b) of the Program. The WTA Tour shall notify the player and inform her that, subject to her entitlement to have her case heard by an Anti-Doping Tribunal, she shall be subject to the penalties set out
under the provisions of the Program. A failure or refusal to submit to testing or to comply with the provisions of the Program shall be treated as a Doping Offense involving a Class I Prohibited Substance and the player shall, subject to her entitlement to have her case heard by an Anti-Doping Tribunal be subject to the penalties set out in Section (M)1(a) or (M)1(b) of this Program, as appropriate, and Section (N).
(H) Out-of-Competition Testing 1. A doping test may be carried out at any time. A player shall submit to a doping test at any time and at any place when requested. Procedural Guidelines for out-ofcompetition
testing are set out in Schedule 3.

2. Any notice provided to a player regarding their selection for testing other than that provided in Section (G) above shall be considered notice that the player has been selected for an out-of-competition test. The timing of outof-competition testing and the selection of players to be
tested will be within the discretion of the APA or his designee and approved by the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer. Selection of players by the APA and the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer shall remain confidential to all persons except those with a reasonable need to know of such testing in order to facilitate the testing procedures.

3. Players selected for out-of-competition testing will be tested only for Class I Prohibited Substances and Doping Methods except for testing conducted on the following categories of players: (1) players who have previously submitted a specimen resulting in a positive test for a
Class I Prohibited Substance that has been disqualified under Section (J)3(b), Section (J)3(c) or Section J(14); (2) players who have previously been found to have committed a Doping Offense; (3) players subject to followup testing based on the recommendation of the Review
Board; and (4) players subject to testing under Section (R) of this Program.

4. If a player fails or refuses to submit to testing or otherwise fails or refuses to comply with the provisions of this Program pursuant to an out-of-competition test, then the APA shall notify the WTA Tour Chief Legal Officer that such player was absent from or has failed or refused to
submit to the provisions of the Program and that, subject to Section L, the player has committed a Doping Offense under Section (C)2(b) of the Program. The WTA Tour shall notify the player and inform her that, subject to her entitlement to have her case heard by an Anti-Doping
Tribunal she shall be subject to the penalties set out under the provisions of the Program. A failure or refusal to submit to testing or comply with the provisions of the Program shall be treated as a Doping Offense involving a Class I Prohibited Substance and the player shall, subject to her entitlement to have her case heard by an Anti-
Doping Tribunal, be subject to the penalties set out in Section (M)1(a) or (M)1(b) of the Program as appropriate, and Section (N).

5. The nature of out-of-competition testing makes it desirable that little or no prior warning is given to the player being tested. A reasonable effort will be made to avoid causing inconvenience to the player being tested. However, the WTA Tour shall not be liable for inconvenience or loss resulting from out-of-competition testing.



you can get more info from the ITF's anti-doping officer by email
and http://www.drugsinsport.net/index.htm
 
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