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Of course No-10 say it was essential travel so that people could look after his kids, it’s one rule for him yet another for millions, keep it coming government you are literally becoming hated day by day...


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Campbell saying anyone who has been fined for making a non essential trip during lockdown should ask for their money back because the government is being hypocritical I tend to agree..


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Ok so when Cummings travelled, the rules were you are not allowed to visit a second home whether to isolate or for a holiday. So there it is he broke it.

Furthermore Jenny Harres said you should not travel unless it’s life threatening, Cummings had no threat to life

He’s refused to resign though, however this is going to spread like wild fire. Especially if the public start breaking rules.


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Interesting what is happening in the leadership Opinium polls

At the start of April Boris Johnson commanded a 51% approval rating with only a 22% disapproval rating. This is outstanding and it adds up to a phenomenal net approval rating of plus 29%. Objectively it is just about as good as it gets in British politics. In contrast Boris Johnson's outgoing not-terribly-popular Labour opponent ratings were beyond abysmal. Only 18% of the British public approved of Jeremy Corbyn's performance as leader of the opposition while a massive 54% disapproved of him giving Corbyn a negative net approval rating of minus 36%. At this point one couldn't blame his supporters for feeling pretty confident they had at least 10 years more in Government locked up.

What a difference 7 weeks, a pandemic and a new opposition leader who is actually, well....pretty good...can make....

The latest Opinium polls on the PM and LotO are as follows: Boris Johnson continues to have a pretty good overall rating objectively, but it is undeniably sliding at a significant pace. Even so... Johnson still has an approval rating of 45% which is still very solid and a disapproval rating of 39% for an overall net approval rating of plus 6 percent. Compared to most of Theresa May's time in office, or even David Cameron's this is still pretty good. Even so in 7 weeks Johnson's disapproval rating has almost doubled from 22% to 39%, his approval rating has drop 6% points and his net approval rating has gone from plus 29% to plus 6%.

Now this is where it gets interesting. 7 weeks ago life was easy for the PM. He had a sitting duck opposition leader who was widely ridiculed and disliked and put in under no pressure what's so ever. That has changed big time. Keir Starmer's 1st Opinium poll as leader of the opposition was pretty solid for a politician better were only just getting to know and make a decision about. But since then his numbers have simply got better and better. Currently Starmer has a 47% approval rating and a 17% disapproval rating for a net approval rating of plus 30%.

What this means is 7 weeks ago Johnson had an advantage over Corbyn of +29% vs -36%. Today Johnson trails Starmer in his net approval rating by +6% vs Keir Starmer's magnificent +30%. Once again what a difference 7 weeks and a much improved opposition leader can make.

Here are a couple of graphs that detail both Johnson's and Starmer's approval ratings since the middle of April.


 

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Oh god now there is second allegations, if they are true surely he cannot keep his job...
Oh my f***ing God you are so right. This is dynamite!!!
New witnesses cast doubt on Dominic Cummings’s lockdown claims - The Guardian

None of this surprises me in the least though. Anyone who has followed Dominic Cummings' career knows he is a man with utter contempt for the masses who believes he is above the law while the law is there simply to control the plebs. That is how he has always behaved and it should come as no surprise that is how he continues to behave as the PM's senior adviser. I remember when Cummings was supposed to be questioned by the Commons Select Committee of Privileges to answer questions about serious irregularities in the Leave campaign that he ran and he simply did not turn up. He was ordered by Parliament to answer questions and he ignored the order because then as now he felt he was above the law. Quite rightly he was declared to be in contempt of Parliament. I will repeat that and put it in bold letters because it is actually quite serious. He was declared to be in contempt of Parliament. That a man of such brazen disregard for Parliament and respect for the law should have ever been made the PM's senior adviser has always been an absolute disgrace. If he is not forced to resign or fired it will be a terrible, shameful reflection on the standards of this Government.
 

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None of this surprises me in the least though. Anyone who has followed Dominic Cummings' career knows he is a man with utter contempt for the masses who believes he is above the law while the law is there simply to control the plebs.
The amusing thing is Dom likes to imagine himself as some sort of radical but when push comes to shove his actions are perfectly in line with over 200 years of Tory thinking. Of course he will probably get away with because as Govey said earlier today the rules are for the little people (I'm paraphrasing slightly, but only slightly)
 

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Interesting what is happening in the leadership Opinium polls

At the start of April Boris Johnson commanded a 51% approval rating with only a 22% disapproval rating. This is outstanding and it adds up to a phenomenal net approval rating of plus 29%. Objectively it is just about as good as it gets in British politics. In contrast Boris Johnson's outgoing not-terribly-popular Labour opponent ratings were beyond abysmal. Only 18% of the British public approved of Jeremy Corbyn's performance as leader of the opposition while a massive 54% disapproved of him giving Corbyn a negative net approval rating of minus 36%. At this point one couldn't blame his supporters for feeling pretty confident they had at least 10 years more in Government locked up.

What a difference 7 weeks, a pandemic and a new opposition leader who is actually, well....pretty good...can make....

The latest Opinium polls on the PM and LotO are as follows: Boris Johnson continues to have a pretty good overall rating objectively, but it is undeniably sliding at a significant pace. Even so... Johnson still has an approval rating of 45% which is still very solid and a disapproval rating of 39% for an overall net approval rating of plus 6 percent. Compared to most of Theresa May's time in office, or even David Cameron's this is still pretty good. Even so in 7 weeks Johnson's disapproval rating has almost doubled from 22% to 39%, his approval rating has drop 6% points and his net approval rating has gone from plus 29% to plus 6%.

Now this is where it gets interesting. 7 weeks ago life was easy for the PM. He had a sitting duck opposition leader who was widely ridiculed and disliked and put in under no pressure what's so ever. That has changed big time. Keir Starmer's 1st Opinium poll as leader of the opposition was pretty solid for a politician better were only just getting to know and make a decision about. But since then his numbers have simply got better and better. Currently Starmer has a 47% approval rating and a 17% disapproval rating for a net approval rating of plus 30%.

What this means is 7 weeks ago Johnson had an advantage over Corbyn of +29% vs -36%. Today Johnson trails Starmer in his net approval rating by +6% vs Keir Starmer's magnificent +30%. Once again what a difference 7 weeks and a much improved opposition leader can make.
I'm really not sure you can read that much into it as much as I know you want to - I seem to remember back in 1981 that Maggie was viewed as the most unpopular PM ever at the time and she went onto win a further two elections with 100+ majoriites.
 

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I'm really not sure you can read that much into it as much as I know you want to - I seem to remember back in 1981 that Maggie was viewed as the most unpopular PM ever at the time and she went onto win a further two elections with 100+ majoriites.
A lot can change. But what won't change is that we will continue to have a PM who is barely competent at his job, if that, against an extremely skilled opposition leader. I simply can't see how 4+ years of Johnson opposing Starmer isn't going to take its toll on Johnson in very emphatic and attrition ways.

Watching Keir Starmer at PM question time opposing Boris Johnson is like watching Mohammed Ali beating up Benny Hill.
 

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William Hills taking odds on Dominic Cummings' survival. :ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO:

Current odds:
Dominic Cummings to have left post as Senior Advisor to PM by end May 2020 : 8/11
Dominic Cummings to still be in post on June 1st 2020 : EVS

So basically Cummings career is on a knife edge and the odds are marginally against his making it past the next week.
I'm not betting but I'm hoping all those people who are taking those 8/11 odds find themselves a little bit richer over the coming week. :sneaky:
 

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I'm really not sure you can read that much into it as much as I know you want to - I seem to remember back in 1981 that Maggie was viewed as the most unpopular PM ever at the time and she went onto win a further two elections with 100+ majoriites.
Yes but to be fair to Maggie (not something I often type) she won a war.Given the competence on display by the current administration I strongly suspect successfully invading the Isle of Man would be beyond them.
 

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Watching Keir Starmer at PM question time opposing Boris Johnson is like watching Mohammed Ali beating up Benny Hill.
If you were an anti-Blair person you'd have said exactly the same thing about William Hague v Blair at question time - week after week Hague bettered him at Question Time but it didn't transfer into votes at the following election.
 

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A lot can change. But what won't change is that we will continue to have a PM who is barely competent at his job, if that, against an extremely skilled opposition leader. I simply can't see how 4+ years of Johnson opposing Starmer isn't going to take its toll on Johnson in very emphatic and attrition ways.
I imagine you would have probably been saying the same thing about Maggie in 81.
 

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Steve Baker for PM

Really shattering for the fake news left narrative that Cummings is called out by a hard Brexiter.
 

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I imagine you would have probably been saying the same thing about Maggie in 81.
Thatcher had some very toxic values that I passionately opposed. But I would never ever have said she wasn't competent. To the contrary, she was very competent and very intelligent. I would certainly say I disagreed with a great deal of her values but I wouldn't question her competence or intelligence. Boris Johnson, on the other hand is clearly not up to the job in terms of his basic competence and his level of intelligence is for a politician of his standing considerably below par. Is Johnson more intelligent than Donald Trump? Absolutely. Substantially. But that is a very low bar.

As for Hague vs Blair, this is an absurd comparison. Hague never had a job outside politics in his life. He was a pampered kid destined to be right wing politician from childhood onwards. He became leader of the Tory party at an age of 36 with limited life experience or work experience. His only work experience was a few years in a management consulting firm. In contrast Keir Starmer was the leading prosecution lawyer in Great Britain and didn't go into politics until he was 52 years old. I always remember when the Tories selected Hague over Ken Clarke thinking oh well then... they went with that numbskull over a talented politician like Ken Clarke? They obviously have a death wish. Well at least Tony Blair won't have to worry about being re-elected in 5 years time. And so it turned out.

There are people who think Jeremy Corbyn destroyed Theresa May in their debates too. Basically these people were extremist socialists idealists without any awareness of the sentiments of the general public. During the time the Labour party were selecting candidates to suit to idealistic urges of their left wing that would never have been acceptable to the British public like Ed Miliband (when they clearly should have selected his brother) and of course after that the even crazier choice of Jeremy Corbyn. Yes, during this period one could rightly say the Labour party had a death wish.

The Tories during the years opposing Blair were actually extremely similar to the Labour Party of the Miliband/Corbyn years. They selected three ideological, unqualified leaders who were completely out of touch with the values of the British public in succession. They were also all very much out of their depths. First Hague, then Michael Howard, the Ian Duncan Smith. None of these guys were remotely electable. All of them were Thatcher worshippers who focused on her most nationalistic traits as well as showing a contempt for the poorer people in the British society. Hague certainly was the best of the three but to use a term I acknowledge I use quite a bit, it was a very low bar. One would have to be a very, very fervent supporter of the Conservative Party and someone very strongly on the right wing of politics to believe Hague outdid Blair in during PMs question time. I certainly never got that impression and I don't believe a lot of the British public did either.

Tony Blair is someone who was undeniably extremely skilled as a PM. His legacy was obviously severely tainted by his alliance with George W Bush during the Iraq war and that decision continues to overshadow the many good things he did do during an extended time in power. Following more than a decade of Conservative power, Britain had become an extremely unequal society that favoured the rich to the detriment of the poor and even the lower middle classes to a ridiculous extent. Blair addressed that and over the years he led the UK, funding for Education and the NHS improved, and the divide between the well off and the poor decreased, albeit only marginally. Additionally His contribution to the Good Friday agreement was enormous and led to peace in North Ireland and the IRA ending hostilities. Any neutral follower of politics would acknowledge Blair was a formidable and skilled leader.

In a country that has supported right wing politics throughout most of it's history, Blair not only won an election but was re-elected twice. By the time of the next election it will be a span of 50 years in which Labour will have won just three General Elections. All three will have been won by Tony Blair.

Adey, I fully acknowledge my values and they are solidly left of centre. I am certainly not an ideological socialist of the Corbyn variety, but my values are firmly one of a left of centre progressive. But I can be objective. I can acknowledge right wing politicians who are capable and/or who have been successful leaders. That said, I do believe by any objective scale comparing Blair vs Hague to Johnson vs Starmer falls very short. You might favour Hague's politics to Blair's but few could objectively say Hague was more skilled than Blair anymore than one could say Corbyn was a strong leader, even if one did share his values. Starmer on the other hand, by any objective yardstick is vastly more capable and skilled than Johnson. That really is transparent.
 
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