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That would be weird, cause there was someone to whom she requested this ice bath and someone who had prepared it.
Yeah. That will work against her. She chose to walk through a darkened room already shut down for the day rather than go find someone.
 

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then leaving the room pitch black with a slippery floor maybe wasn't the best way of looking out for her safety.
I doubt very much that person she asked for an ice-bath knew of those conditions. On noticing it the thing is to go find someone and say "Hey the lights are off, is it okay to go in?" OR IMO if not then it's on you.
 

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The Canadian player, who was once ranked No. 5, contends her injuries ''were caused solely by the reason of carelessness, negligence, wanton and willful disregard on the part of Defendant USTA.'' She claims the organization didn't keep the locker room in a ''safe and suitable condition'' because the organization failed to maintain, clean and repair the floor, which led to her fall.
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^ This could be interesting. I'd think that a good attorney could shred that - "should know" and "expectations" seem like wide open doors to me. That's like them stating "We aren't certain that we have clearly conveyed the proper procedures to every player" :shrug:
 

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I guess that depends on what the WTA rules say about the physio room.
This has nothing to do with the WTA.

I'd think it depends more on who has the most skilled legal team. Even something in a rule book can still be attacked. I think the USTA would have to show that beyond any sort of reasonable doubt a player would most likely be aware of the rules. Or that most players have and are aware of their responsibility to study the facilities rules.
 

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I thought so too previously, but when I read through the USTA's response they clearly stated that it is the WTA who staffs these facilities.
Thanks for pointing that out. Then I'd guess that, if the court accepts that and holds the WTA responsible, this lawsuit might get tossed and Bouchard would have to file one against the WTA.
 

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That's not much of a problem since Bouchard's lawyers can easily amend the pleadings to add the WTA as a co-defendant.
Ah! Okay. Thanks for clarifying that.
 

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Are Ginny's legal team going to argue that she's plain stupid? She has been playing on the main tour/GS for long enough to know these sort of basic protocols - she's not a junior.
:confused: I think you either didn't read what I posted fully, aren't thinking clearly or both. What I stated was - I think the USTA would need to give strong evidence that most players do know those protocols. You style them as "basic" but in fact I'll bet you don't know much about them and how well (or not) they're known among players.
 
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Does anyone here know if players sign contracts when they enter a major and, if so, what is covered in those contracts?
 

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They simply left a poorly-lit room with a slippery substance on the floor completely open with no warnings despite the fact that they knew (or should have known) that players such as Bouchard would still be using the facilities.
Where exactly in the room was the floor slippery, just how slippery was it and what level were the lights? Oh that's right . . .you don't know a thing about it.

And, if the room was darkened, is the USTA supposed to assume that people are going to just walk into rooms where the lights are off?

FYI I'm not on the side of either party.
 

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I've read the statements made by both parties
Yes but those statements may or may not be correct. That was my only point. Unless there's evidence, witnesses, etc it's more a matter of which "debate team" is better.
 
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Considering the US Open plays matches well into the evening, the tournament should by no means be in shut down mode later at night.

All areas should be well staffed, well lit, safe and secure for all players, coaches and media.
I agree with that. At least for two hours after the last match has finished.
 

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If I was the USTA rep in charge of this I'd take a hard-line. I'd estimate what - given her play - she might have won during the time period and offer 80% of that. Plus 40% of her medical bills. Take it or leave it. If she wants to go back to a drawn-out court battle fine.
 

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Having studied law for 3 years i am sad to see this kind of attitude in this thread.
:confused: How do you see suing an org as similar to not going to doctors?
 

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But she is a clear victim of negligence here.
:confused: Based on what any of us here knows - that's an assumption. You mention having studied law yet you're remarkably willing to frame hearsay as fact.
 

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I think his comparison is a bit of a stretch but I get what he means. People are claiming Genie is trying to make money out of the USTA. They are attacking her for trying to get compensation for the harm that she received.
A "bit of a stretch" is an understatement. There is no valid comparison between suing someone and approaches to healthcare.

You might as well claim that people criticizing Bouchard's game is like going/not going to the doctor. And Bouchard is not being "attacked." This is TF - not something that has squat to do with Bouchard's life and where there are critical posts about every player.
 

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refusing to shake hands with 2 players BEFORE a match cuz she believes it's not logical to wish your enemy to beat you.
:facepalm: There's nothing about shaking hands that equates to "wishing your "enemy" beats you." That you see a sporting opponent as an "enemy" only adds to the weirdness of that characterization.
 

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Get this to a jury and take them down!
:lol: That depends on who ends up on the jury. As should be obvious given that many people here, self included, see Bouchard as at least partly responsible for her own mishap.
 
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