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A very interesting statistics on the win/loss records of top players in the last 20 years (1985-2004):

1 Steffi Graf 86-2 0.977 1989
2 Steffi Graf 75-2 0.974 1987
3 Martina Navratilova 89-3 0.967 1986
4 Steffi Graf 72-3 0.960 1988
5 Steffi Graf 47-2 0.959 1995
6 Martina Navratilova 84-5 0.944 1985
7 Martina Hingis 75-5 0.937 1997
8 Steffi Graf 72-5 0.935 1990
9 Monica Seles 70-5 0.933 1992
10 Steffi Graf 54-4 0.931 1996
11 Steffi Graf 76-6 0.927 1993
12 Monica Seles 74-6 0.925 1991
13 S. Williams 56-5 0.918 2002
14 Steffi Graf 64-6 0.914 1986


Graf has 8 of the 14 best win/loss records!
Hingis' best year was better than Seles's best ever year!
Venus of 2000 & 2001 is not among the top14!
Graf has had 7 better years than Serena's best!

Numbers are revealing. And they don't lie ...
 

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Cali, why must you endlessly and relentlessly post Graf stats? She retired OVER 5 years ago, tennis has moved on. Why can't you talk about the present? We KNOW Graf was probably the best singles player ever. Her stats prove it, but are you that insecure that you have to post her stats in every single one of your posts? Talk about something else for a change. Then maybe you wouldn't cause all the shit around here. You must feel threatened by the Seles fans who claim their girl would have more slams, more titles, weeks at number one, etc. They're right, but Steffi would have won more slams and Monica, too. End this incessant debate now. :fiery:
 
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RenaSlam588 said:
Cali, why must you endlessly and relentlessly post Graf stats? She retired OVER 5 years ago, tennis has moved on. Why can't you talk about the present? We KNOW Graf was probably the best singles player ever. Her stats prove it, but are you that insecure that you have to post her stats in every single one of your posts? Talk about something else for a change. Then maybe you wouldn't cause all the shit around here. You must feel threatened by the Seles fans who claim their girl would have more slams, more titles, weeks at number one, etc. They're right, but Steffi would have won more slams and Monica, too. End this incessant debate now. :fiery:

Well, Graf still is the benchmark for today's player of course!
And I don't think tennis has move on, it has moved back.

BTW, it is great fun to expose delusional Selesian, Navratilovian, Williamsonite (you name them ... ) fans. Why? Exactly because I'm so secure. I simply can't lose ...

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And Enna doesn't even come in top 20.....yet her peak was 3rd best...funny, isn't it?
 

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bandabou said:
And Enna doesn't even come in top 20.....yet her peak was 3rd best...funny, isn't it?

No, why?

BTW, you are REALLY obsessed with Enna ...
 

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Calimero377 said:
A very interesting statistics on the win/loss records of top players in the last 20 years (1985-2004):

1 Steffi Graf 86-2 0.977 1989
2 Steffi Graf 75-2 0.974 1987
3 Martina Navratilova 89-3 0.967 1986
4 Steffi Graf 72-3 0.960 1988
5 Steffi Graf 47-2 0.959 1996
6 Martina Navratilova 84-5 0.944 1985
7 Martina Hingis 75-5 0.937 1997
8 Steffi Graf 72-5 0.935 1990
9 Monica Seles 70-5 0.933 1992
10 Steffi Graf 54-4 0.931 1996
11 Steffi Graf 76-6 0.927 1993
12 Monica Seles 74-6 0.925 1991
13 S. Williams 56-5 0.918 2002
14 Steffi Graf 64-6 0.914 1986


Graf has 8 of the 14 best win/loss records!
Hingis' best year was better than Seles's best ever year!
Venus of 2000 & 2001 is not among the top14!
Graf has had 7 better years than Serena's best!

Numbers are revealing. And they don't lie ...

numbers numbers......how about quality?
 

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tennislover said:
numbers numbers......how about quality?

Phew, and I was afraid that Tennistony would extend the list to 25 years when I read his name in my thread ...
 

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Calimero377 said:
Phew, and I was afraid that Tennistony would extend the list to 25 years when I read his name in my thread ...

:lol:
I don't need those tricks....
my dear, my idol is still playing......
my idol is the symbol of modernity..... ;)
 

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RenaSlam588 said:
She retired OVER 5 years ago
actually graf is a tennis pensioner....
now she is a quiet American housewife.........

and in ten years serena will be the same...... :devil: :lol:
 

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The said:

Ah, a Seles, Serena, Venus, Davenport or Capriati fan obviously ...
:cool:
 

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Calimero377 said:
Ah, a Seles, Serena, Venus, Davenport or Capriati fan obviously ...
:cool:
(except from seles)who are those players compared to our idols, dear Cali? :smoke:
sometimes i think you are right in some way (a very little bit.....)
 

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we said that Graf was the best in the world and no one will ever do as she did

and that she is better than any player past or present or future

Would u be happy then
 

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2sistersfan said:
we said that Graf was the best in the world and no one will ever do as she did

and that she is better than any player past or present or future

Would u be happy then

OMG, noooooo ........ :eek:
 

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tennislover said:
(except from seles)who are those players compared to our idols, dear Cali? :smoke:
sometimes i think you are right in some way (a very little bit.....)
if seles compares then serena does as well......let's face it serena is on par with seles right now considering all the singles doubles and mixed doubles slams she has won and the fact that she has won 4 in a row.....and just wait a few more years and trust me serena will be right up there with all the greats :devil:
 

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tennislover said:
(except from seles)who are those players compared to our idols, dear Cali? :smoke:
sometimes i think you are right in some way (a very little bit.....)

:yeah:

Navi is the only serious pretender to Graf's throne ...

Graf even said some years ago (OK, she was on drugs at that moment most probably ... ) that Navi is the greatest-ever! :confused:


Maybe we should join forces and bash all these delusional fans of screaming, 2-handed backhand girlie players .... ?
 

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Calimero377 said:
:yeah:

Navi is the only serious pretender to Graf's throne ...

Graf even said some years ago (OK, she was on drugs at that moment most probably ... ) that Navi is the greatest-ever! :confused:


Maybe we should join forces and bash all these delusional fans of screaming, 2-handed backhand girlie players .... ?
So you're calling Graf manly? You are obviously a huge fan of hers
 
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