Battle of the #1's. (current and former)

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Stefwhit

Discussion Starter · Sep 22, 2003 (Edited)

I was currious about the head-to-head records of ten of the last number one ranked players of the WTA (all against one another). While finding the numbers I found some interesting facts. For example the only number one player to have a winning record over Serena is Aranxta, Aranxta has the most lopsided win-lost ratio against the group, and Steffi is the only one in the group that has played everyone on the list and and at the same time no one on the list has a winning record over her.

(First set of numbers is the win lost ratio against the entire group) (The second set of numbers is the over all head-to-head against the group, win-lost-tie):
example....
Steffi- 77 wins 34 loses (she's beaten 7 players- lost to zero- and tied with 2)

Steffi- (77-34) 7-0-2
Hingis- (70-49) 5-3
Lindsay- (62-61) 3-6
Monica- (55-63) 4-5
Venus- (52-36) 5-3
Serena- (43-23) 6-1-1
Araxta- (36-101) 3-6
Martina N-(30-23) 2-1-2
Jennifer- (25-55) 1-8-1
Kim- (19-27) 2-6-1

Martina N has only played 5 of the last 9 number ones Seles is the only player listed here to have a winning record over her, she's tied with Graf in their head to heads.

This was done for pure enjoyment, these numbers don't really mean all that much, but it's very interesting- I thought so anyway.

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rikvanlooy

· #18 · Sep 23, 2003

bandabou said:
Yeah but GS´s are the tie-breakers and Jen´s got three and Kim ain´t gotten none.

???????

They have been ranked randomly.

Lindsay has been put before Serena, but that is pure coincidence.

Kim's stats are not that bad at all.

A few more matches against Seles, Davenport and Capriati and she has much better figures (even better than Seles and Capriati).

Arantxa and Capriati figures look much worse.

BTW : Etcheberry has been able to improve Justine last winter and next year he will work 6 months exclusively with her.

Do you think Justine won't improve any more ?

Justine and Pat are looking forward to another 30 to 40 % improvement. Pat thinks it will take another 2 to 3 years before Justine will be at her peak. Then we will see if she won't be able to handle the power of Serena and Venus. The difference in speed and power will be much smaller and I imagine that we will see at that moment that the sisters don't have as much skill as Justine (but nothing is certain off course).

I begin to have the sneaky suspicion that the 5 slams of Hingis will be surpassed by Justine and not in a small way (who will be able to beat Justine the next 7 years at RG ?)

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rikvanlooy

· #21 · Sep 23, 2003

Kart said:
Justine is lucky to have fans as believing in her as you - if she believes in herself half as much as you do she's got that base covered totally .

Well, Justine has won this year as many slams as did Hingis in 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 together.

Five wins doesn't seem so much.

How many slams do you think Justine will win the next 10 years and how many times will she win RG ? :angel:

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rikvanlooy

· #23 · Sep 23, 2003

bandabou said:
7 slams, huh?! hmmm....yeah seems probably, if she can keep her clay-play up, but she will get a stern challenge from the sisters/ amelie, and Kim though....it ain´t like she was DOMINATING at the French.

Euh, Serena, not Venus (Justine won't blow a lead like she did last year), not Kim and certainly not Amelie.

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rikvanlooy

· #36 · Sep 24, 2003

DA FOREHAND said:
LOL Let justine beat Venus again, she's had quite a dry spell, until then you should and let her racquet speak for her. 1-7! 6-3 6-3!

I was only talking about clay.

You have to concede that Venus and Serena always have a lot of trouble with Justine on clay and I want to see what another winter training with Pat will have as result on the performance of Justine (the last time it had a tremendous effect).

Nowadays Justine is still not good enough to beat Serena and Venus on a regular basis (except on clay).

If it's true what Pat Etcheberry claims about another 30 to 40 % improvement for Justine, then we will see ...

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