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Except she retired & came back 3 years after her baby

Big diff to 6 months
Weong. And so many people have it incorrect Is it that hard to research basic facts? Clijsters did not come back 3 years after having her baby. She won the US Open 17 months after giving birth to her first child.
 

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jada was like 1 yo when kim began to train again. She announced her coming back in march 2009 when jada was 13 months.

More than vika but far from 3 years.
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Vika has already said in this interview and in the past that she has it much better than the average 1st world working mom so she probably doesn't need to be told that she has it better than even worse cases. But ultimately she can only speak to her situation and the situation of others like her, which she feels brings it's own challenges and she wants to do her bit to make it potentially easier for anyone that is in a similar sitatuation after her. You can call it self-promotion but she isn't just chatting shit in pressers or interviews, she genuinely has been involved in the behind-the-scenes work that goes on in trying to affect actual rule change.

Maternity leave is nice to have because it makes it a lot easier for women to have kids when they are best fit to do so without feeling like they are significantly harming their careers. WTA already has maternity leave; Vika's big thing has been that she wanted to see the maternity leave extended as she thinks the current time frame for return can cause undue stress on families. Given her circumstances regarding custody there may well be some merit for her thinking that way.

Regarding her body, I do think she has generally looked as fit as ever post-pregnancy. There was that one period where people were like 'omg she's so skinny due to the custody battle stress!!' but that didn't last long. People were ragging on her body for years prior to her pregnancy and everyone surely must have thought she would balloon even further, so it is of note that basically the opposite happened and the 'Pizzarenka' era has seemingly been consigned to the past. Of course the issue is that with age and possibly pregnancy does come a loss in explosiveness, etc.
Why do tennis players need a defined period of maternity leave? Are they to receive maternity pay? If so, from whom? Aren't they freelance? Who insisted Azarenka came back when she did? She wasn't contractually obliged and could afford to have as much time off as she wanted. If a player wants to come back a week after birth or 3 years, it's up to them as they do not have normal employment contracts with defined annual leave, maternity leave, sick leave etc. And they don't need them. So what exactly has martyr Azarenka been martyring herself for exactly behind the scenes?
 

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Why do tennis players need a defined period of maternity leave? Are they to receive maternity pay? If so, from whom? Aren't they freelance? Who insisted Azarenka came back when she did? She wasn't contractually obliged and could afford to have as much time off as she wanted. If a player wants to come back a week after birth or 3 years, it's up to them as they do not have normal employment contracts with defined annual leave, maternity leave, sick leave etc. And they don't need them. So what exactly has martyr Azarenka been martyring herself for exactly behind the scenes?
Maternity leave on the WTA is the defined period of time a player has after giving birth to return to tour in order to be eligible for a protected ranking. It's actually far more relevant for a lower profile, lesser accomplished player than Vika who can at least expect to receive wildcards.
 

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Why do tennis players need a defined period of maternity leave? Are they to receive maternity pay? If so, from whom? Aren't they freelance? Who insisted Azarenka came back when she did? She wasn't contractually obliged and could afford to have as much time off as she wanted. If a player wants to come back a week after birth or 3 years, it's up to them as they do not have normal employment contracts with defined annual leave, maternity leave, sick leave etc. And they don't need them. So what exactly has martyr Azarenka been martyring herself for exactly behind the scenes?
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Nothing more annoying than these sportswomen who come back after giving birth and they make it seem like they just came back from war. First of all, nobody forced you to have the kid. You could have had an abortion. Secondly, you are rich as hell, so you have the best available health care and medical facilities at your disposal. They are women in poor countries that give birth and they don’t even have the basic health care and doctors and nurses available. Yet these privileged rich sportswomen want us to all believe that they fought in and survived during war by giving birth. Cry me a river!
Wow....How disgusting...You wanna google Serena's complications? You think all the money she's got could have prevented what she went through? and you've never played tennis at a world class level so how do you know what they go through trying to get back into the game six months after giving birth...OH BTW, If you are a female you're vagina is ashamed of you...i'm just saying...:SNE:
 

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Nothing more annoying than these sportswomen who come back after giving birth and they make it seem like they just came back from war. First of all, nobody forced you to have the kid. You could have had an abortion. Secondly, you are rich as hell, so you have the best available health care and medical facilities at your disposal. They are women in poor countries that give birth and they don’t even have the basic health care and doctors and nurses available. Yet these privileged rich sportswomen want us to all believe that they fought in and survived during war by giving birth. Cry me a river!
Um people all over the world suffer far worse injuries than, say, a bum knee, but no pro athlete would be ridiculed for saying they wondered if an injury would end their career. In this profession it is perfectly normal that someone would have the thought of retiring upon becoming pregnant (well if they're female since no male athlete has to deal with that challenge). If you watched Vika's video, she practically echoes what you are saying about most moms being far less fortunate than her. And what kind of lowlife would ridicule someone for not having an abortion (not quite what you're doing here but I have seen plenty of sickos on this forum do just that regarding Vika)?

I agree this narrative of moms on tour being walking miracles or superheroes has gotten a bit out of control though, but we all know that Vika is not the one who started that…
 

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I agree this narrative of moms on tour being walking miracles or superheroes has gotten a bit out of control though, but we all know that Vika is not the one who started that…
Vika’s narrative was filled up with custody disputes that prevented her from playing for what, almost a year? and asking the general public if it was right that her baby’s father disrespected her in front of his parents... she can have all that.
 
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People realise that it's BBC pushing this right, it's not Vika that's gone out and sought this interview, they sought her out for the interview as the start of their #changethegame campaign this summer "to showcase female athletes in a way they never have been before", through more women's sport coverage this summer they are "aiming to turn up the volume on women's sport and alter perceptions".
 

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Nothing more annoying than these sportswomen who come back after giving birth and they make it seem like they just came back from war. First of all, nobody forced you to have the kid. You could have had an abortion. Secondly, you are rich as hell, so you have the best available health care and medical facilities at your disposal. They are women in poor countries that give birth and they don’t even have the basic health care and doctors and nurses available. Yet these privileged rich sportswomen want us to all believe that they fought in and survived during war by giving birth. Cry me a river!
PIG!! No woman would post this shit:mad:
 

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Wow....How disgusting...You wanna google Serena's complications? You think all the money she's got could have prevented what she went through? and you've never played tennis at a world class level so how do you know what they go through trying to get back into the game six months after giving birth...OH BTW, If you are a female you're vagina is ashamed of you...i'm just saying...:SNE:
My thoughts exactly! I just can't believe a woman would come up with this drivel :rolleyes:
 

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Why do tennis players need a defined period of maternity leave? Are they to receive maternity pay? If so, from whom? Aren't they freelance? Who insisted Azarenka came back when she did? She wasn't contractually obliged and could afford to have as much time off as she wanted. If a player wants to come back a week after birth or 3 years, it's up to them as they do not have normal employment contracts with defined annual leave, maternity leave, sick leave etc. And they don't need them. So what exactly has martyr Azarenka been martyring herself for exactly behind the scenes?
The bulk of top players' pay is endorsements. You don't play, they don't pay. See recent NYT article about Nike and other sports. Vika went from being a jewel in the Nike stable to wearing scrub kits and playing with a blacked our racquet.
 

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The bulk of top players' pay is endorsements. You don't play, they don't pay. See recent NYT article about Nike and other sports. Vika went from being a jewel in the Nike stable to wearing scrub kits and playing with a blacked our racquet.
I get that. But at the end of the day, we all have to make choices and all our decisions have consequences. Life isn't some sort of fairytale that bends to our wishes. If you know that getting pregnant would be damaging to your career and lessen your money stream while you're still playing, you have the choice to wait for kids after you've retired. Honestly, most tennis player are done when they get to their 30s. So, it's not a long wait.

In Vika's case, she got pregnant, a thing she hadn't planned. It happens. However, she could have easily have an abortion this time, knowing how it could affect her career. Even if she didn't have all the drama with her boyfriend. Having a baby when you're a world-class athlete prone to injury isn't exactly a good idea.
 

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This is a silly comment.
I don't see what's silly about what I said. You can't control an injury. However, there are means to prevent pregnancy and in the event, you do get pregnant, you can terminate the pregnancy.

Obviously, some people are anti-abortion. Who knows? Maybe for religious or personal reasons, Vika didn't want to go that route. Nonetheless, it is a route that is available.
 

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I get that. But at the end of the day, we all have to make choices and all our decisions have consequences. Life isn't some sort of fairytale that bends to our wishes. If you know that getting pregnant would be damaging to your career and lessen your money stream while you're still playing, you have the choice to wait for kids after you've retired. Honestly, most tennis player are done when they get to their 30s. So, it's not a long wait.

In Vika's case, she got pregnant, a thing she hadn't planned. It happens. However, she could have easily have an abortion this time, knowing how it could affect her career. Even if she didn't have all the drama with her boyfriend. Having a baby when you're a world-class athlete prone to injury isn't exactly a good idea.
You say that so callously like it's not a big deal but there is an emotional impact in making that decision. It's not like returning a pair of jeans. It is (or, depending on where you live should be) a choice - she should not be judged for not having one, just as she should not be judged if she did have one.

Yes, Vika and other mothers on tour need to deal with the consequences of motherhood after having made the decision to have children. But motherhood in shouldn't in itself be tantamount to career death.

As someone who has made the effort to post in a forum about women's tennis, you'd think reducing barriers for return to work would be a good thing.
 
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