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I think Venus has toned down on power. She comes to the net a lot more, and Serena too if you watch her matches she does not hit the ball really hard. I think if you want to see an all out POWER, look at Jennifer Capriati her strategy is hit the ball hard or hit the ball even harder. Also someone said that the Williams sisters has more UNE than winners, but if you watch most of the womens matches majority of them will be that there will be more UNE than winners. To me the reason people are saying that the sisters are only power because when they first saw them they saw power, but like Venus she has really brought the power game down.
 

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I think they can produce power like no other players on the tour, they can outhit just about anyone but.......they've added some net game and finess to their strategy, they can certainly do alot more than smack the ball.
 

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Venus has always been powerful. She didn't however, always win slams.<br />Certaintly she must have changed something, to have improved so much.

She plays more of an all court game, coming into the net more, etc., now, then what she used to.

She DOES contruct points, often settingthem up with a good serve.

I'm not as sure about Serena, just cause I haven't seen her play as much.
 

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Venus and Serena have 2 different games... Serena is mostly power, although she has toned it down a little lately... Her game is similiar to that of Jennifer Capriati's, which is why they match up very well against each other...

I will admit that Venus was all power when she first came on the tour --- I guess that can be attributed to her lack of experience( check her winning record back then) That's simply NOT the case anymore... Her turnaround has come in her ability to add finesse to her game. <br />Of course she hits the ball hard, but Hard hitting does not make a champion . Accurate placement, intellegent shotmaking which includes a variety of shots, strategic construction of points, holding serve , and backing it up with a sound return game, good foot work, movement and court sense all of which make a good champion which Venus has been for the last 2 years... <br />I once heard a tennis instructor say that a player <br />requires strategy and the abliltiy to alter that strategy accordingly to his/her opponent.<br />Go back to any of her last matches against Lindsay, and the U.S. OPen semi final & final against Jennifer , and Serena to examine that strategy...<br />I think "some" people comfort themselves with the power arguement with regards to Venus because it is the only way they can explain her success......<br />Bottom-line, Venus is a much smarter player now, and it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with power, strength, wingspan , or her long legs <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Venus is turning into one of the more intelligent tennis players in the WTA. I agree with Infiniti! Serena is learning. She played Hingis smart at the Open expecially in that first set. Both Venus and Serena are constructing points better as well. The sisters can serve, come to net, construct points, hit backhands and forehands, cover the court, and well as far as power........nuff said.
 

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by now no

Both come to the net more and Venus has a good dropshot but their A game is power so what do you expect!
 

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Of course net.<br />If you look at Serena's serve (specially her 2nd)<br />you will see how much kick she can add to the ball. That's accurate technique. They have their games based on ball power, unlike Martina, which game is based on ball placement and antecipation.

The Williams Sisters are a combination of technique and power. That's why they are so successful!
 

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It's not net! It's NOT!<br /> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Infiniti said it all. Venus used to use all power, but that has changed. She now has a complete all around game, and has the power to back it up. Now that's a lethal combination. I agree that people that dislike them for no other reason and used to use that power vs. finesse game as an excuse still hang their hats on that because they have nothing else to say. It must be a hard pill to swallow when your fav. can get beat from all angles of the game now that Venus has it all.

You'd think that if Venus was playing the same way she used to that there's no way she would have won 4 GS. The elite players would have found a way to overmatch her power. Now they can't do that because she has too many weapons. She uses her power game in the earlier rounds, but uses a more all court game with a mix of power, finesse, and intelligence to beat the more elite players in the later rounds.

Serena to me still uses far more power than Venus. Because of this when she get's nervous she makes a lot more unforced errors because power and nerves don't mix. When she gets more comfortable coming to the net, changing up the pace on her groundstrokes, and not overhitting on returns then she will be just as dangerous. I haven't seen her do it as consistently as Venus, but she's getting there. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
 

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I think Venus and Serena would LOVE the rest of the tour to think their game was all power. They'd never lose, except to each other.

Ask Lindsay or Jenn or Kim waht they think separates them from Venus and I'll bet not one of them mentions power.
 

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At the moment Venus had power + finesse & Serena is getting there.

But the point that most of you guys are missing is that when Venus plays Martina, for example, what differentiates them is POWER. Both can play almost every shot in the book, but Venus hits them harder, therefore she wins. So when she plays Hingis, she wins because of her power. No way around that. But, on the other hand, when she plays someone with less court-sense than her, Capriati or Serena, she wins because of the way she thinks. And when she plays against someone who doesn't move as well as her, like Lindsay, she wins because of her "wingspan".

So, no of course neither's game is _just_ power, but it is fair to say that against _some_ opponents power is their key weapon.
 

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I respectfully disagree with anyone who thinks that Venus wins against certain players because of her power... Case in point, when Martina Hingis and Lindsay Davenport were beating up on her earlier on in her career, her body never seemed to be the problem... Why is it all of a sudden that she beats them because of her wingspan, long legs, strength and power ????

People need to realize that she has mastered the game... Before 2000 she was inexperienced, but now it's a different ballgame. Experience is the key here my friends----- power and strength, wingspan and long legs have absolutely nothing to do with her recent success.... She always had these attributes, she's just added some more weapons to them which is why I think she is playing at a level superior and beyond the artistry of her opponents <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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No, they are definitely not ONLY power.

But if you take away their power, I dont see them in the top 10.
 

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What I was trying to say was this:

A couple of years ago when Martina & Lindsay were routinely beating Venus, this was because Venus had power and little else and Martina/Lindsay had finesse (and in Lindsay's case power also). Sheer power could not give Venus victory over Martina most of the time. Now, on the other hand, Venus has a wider variety of shots as well as power. If she and Martina both hit the same shot, Venus is more likely to win the point because she will hit it harder.

In other words two years ago a match between Venus and Martina, was Power Vs. Finesse. Whereas now it's Power + Finesse Vs. Finesse. Obviously, Venus is going to have the advantage and the reason she has the advantage is that she has something that Martina doesn't have: Power.

That's all I mean, when I say that power is the crucial factor when it comes to Venus' matches against Martina. Clearly, she couldn't do it on power alone (well, you just need to look at some of their past matches to see that), but it is also true that if she didn't hit the ball that hard, she wouldn't beat Martina.

While Venus' game has become more interesting and varied to watch, power is still not just an important element of it but an absolutely CRUCIAL element of it.

I can understand why Williams fans find it frustrating when commentators always imply that Venus & Serena win only because of their power. But to go too far the other way and claim that the main reason Venus & Serena win matches is because of their finesse is also wrong. The fact is that Venus is, at the moment, a very complete tennis player. She has it all: power, speed, variety, net-play. Against a physically weaker opponent, her power is likely to be the crucial factor; but it's equally true that against a power player, her court-sense is likely to be the crucial factor.
 

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right on, sk
 
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