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I agree with the bolded, but she was still really inconsistent under Bajin (losing streaks, periodic bad form, etc.) and had some questionable losses at Slams. Easily folding against Halep, Keys and Kerber—that match against Kerber I vividly remember because it was just tactically inept from her end --- Osaka didn't want to do anything to make Kerber uncomfortable and thought she could outhit her from the baseline on a grass court, well, we know how that turned out.

The main difference is that now, she's higher ranked, and will instead lose to lower-ranked players that can exploit her weaknesses in the early rounds. Like her last four Slams have been atrocious --- 3R, 1R, 4R, and 3R. Osaka's peak is so outstanding that I forgot how bad her base level actually is, which is concerning. Like that backhand can turn into a Keys-esque mess without any warning, and don't get me started on that second serve. Maybe she's just gonna have a Kvitová-like Slam performance for her whole career. For sure she will win more, most likely on HC, but losses like the ones she's had in the past year will no longer be surprises.
All that is true, but with him she learned to be more patient, play with more margins, something she had never done before, and started counterpunching with her BH DTL, which is such a great shot for her and lifts her whole level when it works, which certainly wasn't the case today (I've always thought Fissette is a good coach, so I hope he won't take the "you need more margin/play only CC" approach) and her peak was never higher than when he was coaching her, and for the kind of tennis she plays that is so so important (won her 2 slams). I don't mean it in terms of consistency, because Osaka is too moody and lacks dimensions to her bashing to be a consistent player, regardless of her coach. I remember right after she won IW, she was crying in a match in Charleston against Georges, so that shows, but imo Bajin is good at maximizing players abilities without changing the nature of their games, usually a road to disaster. ALL the players that have worked with him have improved their results. People might make fun of his time with Mladenovic, but she was barely winning matches and ended up having quite decent results in a short time. To put it another way, would Osaka have won more slams if she had stayed with Bajin, even if she kept throwing stinkers here and there ?
 

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Sascha would've had her ready and found a way to get her out of her mood.

She was getting down during a match and started whining to him and he basically said fine but...and she went on to win the match.
 

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All that is true, but with him she learned to be more patient, play with more margins, something she had never done before, and started counterpunching with her BH DTL, which is such a great shot for her and lifts her whole level when it works, which certainly wasn't the case today (I've always thought Fissette is a good coach, so I hope he won't take the "you need more margin/play only CC" approach) and her peak was never higher than when he was coaching her. I don't mean it in terms of consistency, because Osaka is too moody and lacks dimensions to her bashing to be a consistent player, regardless of her coach. I remember right after she won IW, she was crying in a match in Charleston against Georges, so that shows, but imo Bajin is good at maximizing players abilities without changing the nature of their games, usually a road to disaster. ALL the players that have worked with him have improved their results. People might make fun of his time with Mladenovic, but she was barely winning matches and ended up having quite decent results in a short time. To put it another way, would Osaka have won more slams if she had stayed with Bajin, even if she kept throwing stinkers here and there ?
That's a good point and I guess we'll see. I actually think her peak last Asian swing was just as high, if not higher, than her peak during IW and USO of 2018. Her AO 2019 performance I don't attribute to Bajin (or anyone really), since he wasn't working in a coaching capacity with her at the time and had been relegated to the position of a hitting partner.

Fissette isn't like Sumyk who changes his player's style to fit a more generic mold, so there's nothing to worry about there. He's worked with a wide variety of players and all of them had good results under him. What will be interesting to see this year is if she improves on clay and grass under Wim or continues to be a hard court specialist. Bajin has mainly worked with hard court specialists his whole career so he couldn't do much to help Osaka in that regard, maybe Wim will be different.
 

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In her presser, Naomi was saying she was expecting that Coco would hit faster serves and be aggressive but wasn't expecting Coco's tactics (mostly mixing up her shots). Did Coco play like that in her previous matches or only here against Naomi? If the former, then Wim didn't do proper research as he has access to all the player and match stats.

In any case, Naomi assumed Coco would play much like she did at their USO match and wasn't prepared and couldn't adapt during the match. That's too complacent an approach to take. She has taken this loss pretty hard :( but she'll regroup and learn from it.
 

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This was a bad loss for Osaka. Coco played great and she established her serve as the dominant force in this match, hitting her groundies with great depth and consistency but Naomi hardly competed, gifting away too many points and appeared to be scared of winning. Like it has been said already Naomi doesn’t have a b game, so when things don’t work she just panics and self destructs. While Coco has a game that is effective on most days because you’re gonna have to beat her and she is never giving it away.
 

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Well congratulations to Gauff... takes the sting out of Venus' s and Serena's losses.

Gauff was serving very well and was quite composed. Gauff has a chance against kenin, who is so wound up..

Osaka's interview was quite revealing... maybe so isn't as fake as I thought she was..
 

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Not at all. I am one of those that believe she is overhyped. And I am really fine with her winning this match.
We've had too many examples of overhyped players lately. It's one thing to praise a good rising player, and showcase a future multi slam winner, and another to proclaim them the next Serena. I mean look at the last 6 years:
The next Maria = Bouchard
The next Serena = Sloane, Muguruza, Madisson, Naomi, Bianca, Gauff

How many Serena the WTA had in it's history?? Oh 1!
Then why proclaim a new one every year? Be glad new players are reaching unexpected success.
Why put the pressure of the GOAT on their young career and minds?
But I was refering to those who believe there's nothing in her game but hype (and there are many in this forum who cannot stop downplaying every single part of Gauff's game ever since that match against Hercog). Even if the media circus is out of control (and a physical, Hingis-like, or mental, Capriati-like, burnout cannot be ruled out), Gauff has shown a level of composure and tactic awareness that are easily among the best in the current top 100. She's not a scrub taking advantage of collapsed draws as some would like to believe.
 

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Gauff has shown a level of composure and tactic awareness that are easily among the best in the current top 100. She's not a scrub taking advantage of collapsed draws as some would like to believe.
Agree. Her draw wasn’t an easy one, and yet she’s found a way to win thus far. Has two top ten scalps and has won a tourney already in her short career. I just watched the match, and Coco’s serving has really improved since the last time she played Osaka. Was surprised to hear so many in the tv crowd shouting encouragement to Coco, and it sounded like she had more fans there than Naomi, which was surprising since Naomi is so beloved and is already an experienced player.
 

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In her presser, Naomi was saying she was expecting that Coco would hit faster serves and be aggressive but wasn't expecting Coco's tactics (mostly mixing up her shots). Did Coco play like that in her previous matches or only here against Naomi? If the former, then Wim didn't do proper research as he has access to all the player and match stats.

In any case, Naomi assumed Coco would play much like she did at their USO match and wasn't prepared and couldn't adapt during the match. That's too complacent an approach to take. She has taken this loss pretty hard :( but she'll regroup and learn from it.
Wow. So they thought that this would be a walk in the park against an inexperienced BBB and didn't prepare for the match, did they? Pretty shocking knowing Wim's style.

Half of TF could have coached her ahead of this match that this is how Gauff would play. I can't say I've seen their USO encounter, but otherwise I've seen Coco play quite a few times and she's obviously got a complete game and constantly mixes up her shots
 

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Wow. So they thought that this would be a walk in the park against an inexperienced BBB and didn't prepare for the match, did they? Pretty shocking knowing Wim's style.

Half of TF could have coached her ahead of this match that this is how Gauff would play. I can't say I've seen their USO encounter, but otherwise I've seen Coco play quite a few times and she's obviously got a complete game and constantly mixes up her shots
Well, also remember the 2015 USO QF between Vika and Simo. Vika said in the presser she wasn't expecting the weight of shot that Simo had, which was strange considering her coach, Wim Fissette, had just coached Simona the previous year. So he doesn't seem to have his charges as prepared as they should be.
 

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Yesssss! Sweet upset, Coco! :love: :D :)

The better, smarter and more talented player won.

Osaka was embarrassing.
 

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In her presser, Naomi was saying she was expecting that Coco would hit faster serves and be aggressive but wasn't expecting Coco's tactics (mostly mixing up her shots). Did Coco play like that in her previous matches or only here against Naomi? If the former, then Wim didn't do proper research as he has access to all the player and match stats.

In any case, Naomi assumed Coco would play much like she did at their USO match and wasn't prepared and couldn't adapt during the match. That's too complacent an approach to take. She has taken this loss pretty hard :( but she'll regroup and learn from it.
Sascha would've had her prepared.
 
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