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It is good to be positive, but how can Anna say her match with Venus today shows she can "hold her own" against the #2 player in the world? :confused:

If that is so, Anna, what exactly happened in that second set? Has she already forgotten she lost EVERY GAME in that set? Is an 0-6 set really "holding her own"?

Anna, Anna, Anna. As long as you can convince yourself you are on the level of the top players, how will you ever improve? When, in your own mind, you are there already, and all is well? :rolleyes:
 

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She's given Jen and Serena a hard time this year already so she's not farfetched.;)
 

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LOL @ janie.

You're asking for it from a certain poster.
 

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Well...

maybe Anna's referring to the 8 BREAK POINTS she had in the 1st set!:fiery:

If she had converted a few of those break points she would've won the 1st set and maybe the match would've turned out differently.:fiery: :fiery:

Anna always seems to get close but she can't get over the hump!AAGGHH!:sad: :sad:
 

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Janie - surely it's obvious what Anna meant. The first set was 7-5 and Anna had many chances. Therefore it shows that she can play at the same level as Venus. The second set shows that she doesn't play at that level consistently.

I like you, Janie, but I really don't understand why you're so very critical of Anna.
 

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Numerous players can play ONE good set. That does not put them on the level with the top players, who take advantage of their break points, and who continue to play well in set 2.


But, I appreciate that you like me, saki! :)

I like everybody on this board. We are all tennis nuts together! :kiss:
 

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I initially felt that Anna's comments were reasonable, until I learned a bit more about the match.

This was Anna's second match in Antwerp, and Venus's first. Venus was not accustomed to the surface and she needed to calibrate her game. That largely explains why Venus wasn't able to finish Anna off quicker.

Anna in no way held her own against Venus. Had she even gotten two games in the second set, I would agree with her. No one holds her own and gives away a bagel. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
 

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Anna should stop saying that she improves so much wich each match and tournament, it`s time that it starts to pay off by now:)
 

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I must give Anna credit for a different match, though.

Anna definitely held her own when she beat the bedoodles out of Jennifer Capriati during the exhibition match last year.
 

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Of course one good set doesn't automatically mean that you're on the same level as a top player, but it does mean something & Anna's not wrong to take some positive from this.

I haven't seen the whole interview, but my guess is that that is she goes on to say that she didn't take her chances and let herself be forced onto the defensive in the 2nd set.

There's plenty of room for improvement in Anna's game & strategy but she knows that.
 

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I'm as critical of Anna K as anyone else, but I have to disagree with you Janie (it's a first for me;). I don't think she is being delusional at all based on two factors.

First, I read Venus' interview and she really complimented Anna by saying that Anna played really well in that first set. Given the fact that Anna had break chances to take the set indicates that she was giving her best effort against Venus. Venus, being Venus, pulled out a tough set. I think Anna's double fault on set point really hurt her mentally and that may be why she fell apart in the second set.

Second, I really don't think Anna should put herself down or say she sucked in the match. The first set was very close and at this point in time, Anna needs to take away all the positives she can get. Remember this is a player who missed most of last year with a severe foot injury and as a result, her ranking took a big hit. So, it is going to be a massive struggle for Anna to comeback since she has to play every top player in the first and second round of the big tournaments. So, I don't see anything wrong with her trying to be as positive as possible. I would do the same in her situation.

Best of luck to Anna for the rest of the year and best of luck to Venus in seeking the top spot!:) :)
 

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Well, considering that Anna has beaten the last 6 #1 ranked singles players at one time or another, she's not THAT delusional.
 

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Well, considering that Anna has beaten the last 6 #1 ranked singles players at one time or another, she's not THAT delusional.
Very true. Hopefully she can take something away from those matches. However, we are talking about her current form and things are not looking good right now. Maybe her form will pick up as the season wears on.
 

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Okay, I admit it, apoet is right. :) Anna SHOULD stay positive; it is her only hope. If she (or any athlete) gives in to feelings of despair, it is all over.

However, I still disagree with Anna's statement that she is still not yet back to her previous level of play. She HAS reached her previous level of play. She is beating the people she beat in 2000, and losing to the ones she always lost to in 2000. The difference, as apoet said, is that her low ranking now allows her no seedings and no Byes. So she will actually have to play BETTER than she did in 2000 to get back in the top 15.

BTW, as apoet knows, I have always recognized that Anna is a hard worker and a very good tennis player. So those who think I am bent on trashing Anna are wrong.
 

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Okay, I admit it, apoet is right. :) Anna SHOULD stay positive; it is her only hope. If she (or any athlete) gives in to feelings of despair, it is all over.

However, I still disagree with Anna's statement that she is still not yet back to her previous level of play. She HAS reached her previous level of play. She is beating the people she beat in 2000, and losing to the ones she always lost to in 2000. The difference, as apoet said, is that her low ranking now allows her no seedings and no Byes. So she will actually have to play BETTER than she did in 2000 to get back in the top 15.

BTW, as apoet knows, I have always recognized that Anna is a hard worker and a very good tennis player. So those who think I am bent on trashing Anna are wrong.
Wonderful post as always Janie. I agree with you there. Perhaps these matches against the top players will actually help her there.
 

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In every tennis match you either won, or you lost. Nothin' in between. Hence, I see nothin' positive whatsoever in any loss, even is it's 10:12 in the third set tiebreaker. Tennis is about winning, not about "playing well" or "improving".
 

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janie- When you're ranked 80-something, a 7-5 set against the #2 player in the world is big deal. Anna is NOT the player she was when she made the top ten. It's not fair to judge her as if she was. She's a low ranked tennis player who has great athletic potential.

If Lina Krasnoroutskaya had played Venus, lost by that score and said that, my answer would be "Yes, you're absolutely right. You can play at that level. Now learn to do it for a whole match."

Lina's ranked 45. Anna's ranked 89.

janie - If you actually treat Anna like the #89 ranked player, you might even find yourself (quietly) rooting for her. The #89 ranked player can find great comfort in a competitve set against the world #2.
 

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janie

Maybe it's just me, but I understood very well what you said in your original post. I agree with it 100%. You never said that Anna should not be positive about the her match against Venus. That point is obvious, and I fail to see how what you said could have been misinterpreted in that way.

There's a huge difference between being positive and being delusional. Had Anna only said she had a great match, then all would be fine, because she did have a great match. Anna took it one step further (and a big step if I might add), by saying that she held her own against Venus.

If Anna really thinks that, then it seems she's satisfied with her game at this point. Where's the motivation? She's delusional plain and simple. She won't get better as long as she believes it.
 

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Considering she's still sort of coming off an injury and low-ranked, it wasn't a "bad" result. Anna has every right to be cautiously optimistic. Did anyone think she could actually beat Venus unless Venus was sick or really spaced out? Come on! There are many women ranked around Anna would would LOVE to take 5 games off of Venus, especially in a single set. The same could be said for a few in the Top 20. So Anna folded (or Venus came up to speed) in the second set. Anna, well, the underperforming questionmark. She has the ability and the talent to beat Venus, consistently no, but here and there, yes. But it didn't happen at this tournament.
 
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