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Robert - Beckenham was not a Futures event, just a regular pre-Wimbledon grass-court event and had existed for decades as the Kent Championships (see Women's tennis finals database). It may be that the results of the whole tournament are listed in Declan's British Tennis '81 LTA annual. I have it too but mine's at my mother's in Cornwall.

Also, I gave all Betty Ann's names so if you weren't familiar with her as Stuart, you'd hopefully recognise her under one of the other names!

I should be able to clear up some of the Perth questions for you later on tonight.

Finally, Declan, does the March 1980 edition of your World Tennis list final results for tournaments in Australia other than those already in the Women's tennis finals database? If so, PLEASE share!
 

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Andy T said:
Robert - Beckenham was not a Futures event, just a regular pre-Wimbledon grass-court event and had existed for decades as the Kent Championships (see Women's tennis finals database). It may be that the results of the whole tournament are listed in Declan's British Tennis '81 LTA annual. I have it too but mine's at my mother's in Cornwall.

Also, I gave all Betty Ann's names so if you weren't familiar with her as Stuart, you'd hopefully recognise her under one of the other names!

I should be able to clear up some of the Perth questions for you later on tonight.

Finally, Declan, does the March 1980 edition of your World Tennis list final results for tournaments in Australia other than those already in the Women's tennis finals database? If so, PLEASE share!
Unfortunately not - it has results of the Colgate Series Championships, Adelaide, Sydney, Tokyo (Japan Open), Kyoto (Borden Classic)and Tokyo (Emeron Cup) - they're all in your database.
 

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Those indoor events after Wimbledon were exhibitions. The WTA was very upset because they were held the same week as the US Clay was in the United States. The US Clay was a televised event and had a second class field, especially in 1982.
 

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Does anyone know where this even took place when Goolagong beat Austin in 3 sets in the semifinals? It was on grass, in Australia, in 1982, that's all I know.
 

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I'll get back to you in an hour Robert!
 

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Confusion about the Australian tournaments in 1982, now that one is for the experts:

1st: There was Perth after Wimbledon, I believe that that was an exhibition or at least kind of a non-WTA tour tournament. Jaeger beat Goolagong in the semis and lost to Evert in the finals. Does anyone have more results and knowledge whether this one was official?

2nd: I have 2 results from indoor exhibition matches in Australia, PROBABLY both matches within the same event: Jaeger beat Goolagaong as well as Navratilova (3 sets) in the round robins, I don't have any post round robin results.

3rd. Tracy Austin lost to Evonne Goolagong at a grass tournament at the end of 1982. Probably an exhibition. No further results....
In August 1982, there were exhibition tournaments in Sydney and Perth, neither of which counted in terms of ranking points.
In Sydney (Australian Indoors - 29/7-1/8) there were two RR groups Group 1: Evert def Cawley 63 61, Leand 61 61, Hanika 26 63 63. Cawley beat Hanika 64 63, Leand 63 64, Hanika def Leand 62 64.

Group 2: Bunge def Jaeger 63 61, Barker 46 63 63. Navratilova def Barker 63 63 def Bunge 64 36 63. Jaeger def Barker 60 60, Navratilova 16 63 62. Navratilova scratched & was replaced by Jaeger who bt 64 61 in the 3rd place play-off. Evert d Bunge 63 60 in the final.

In Perth (Australian Challenge). Goolagong lost Jaeger 16 36 and Evert def Barker 60 64 in sf. In the final, Evert bt Jaeger 61 36 60.

The Austin match was in a special women’s international team event in Adelaide, November, where a British Commonwealth team played a "Rest of the World" team. Cawley lost 76 64 to Shriver but beat Austin 64 46 62 as the Commonwealth went down 3-6. The other singles results were: Austin d Barker 63 64, Shriver d Turnbull 61 76, Turnbull d Austin 64 26 76, Mandlikova d Barker 63 64, Turnbull d Mandlikova 57 62 63.
In doubles Shriver/Mandlikova d Barker/Turnbull 64 64, Austin/Shriver Barker/Turnbull 64 64.

All data from World of Tennis 1983.

Hope this answers those questions, Robert.
 

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Robert - Beckenham was not a Futures event, just a regular pre-Wimbledon grass-court event and had existed for decades as the Kent Championships (see Women's tennis finals database). It may be that the results of the whole tournament are listed in Declan's British Tennis '81 LTA annual. I have it too but mine's at my mother's in Cornwall.

Also, I gave all Betty Ann's names so if you weren't familiar with her as Stuart, you'd hopefully recognise her under one of the other names!

I should be able to clear up some of the Perth questions for you later on tonight.

Finally, Declan, does the March 1980 edition of your World Tennis list final results for tournaments in Australia other than those already in the Women's tennis finals database? If so, PLEASE share!

Sorry, forgot to say this earlier: "Tennis ''81" just has the Beckenham quarter-finals onwards results, same as the "World Of Tennis" book.
 

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It definetely help, Andy. Thank you !!!
 

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Right before the French Open 1981 an exhibition was held in Tokyo, Jaeger beat Tracy Austin in the finals 36 63 76. Does anyone have more results? Around the same time was a doubles exhibition in Tokyo, but I believe it was not the same event, was it?

Another one is Carlsbad 1981. Seems to be an exhibition as they played out the third place (Shriver beat Jaeger, Jaeger lost to Mandlikova in semis) anymore results there ?
 

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hey Robert,

The Jaeger/Austin match was in the Gunze Tournament, an event which started in the mid-70s and was sometimes a regular tournament and sometimes a non-tour exhibition. Woprdl of Tennis 82 only gives the final result, though often this tournament contained 8 players.

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Carlsbad was just a two-day event:
sf
Evert d Shriver 64 63
Mandlikova def Jaeger 67 63 64

f: Evert won 64 63
3rd place play off Shriver won 63 62
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he sf and final were preceded by a round robin.
In Jaeger's group, there were:
Roberta McCallum, Lucia Romanov and Peanut Louie.
Louie lost to Jaeger in the rr (no score) as well as 64 63 in the sf but that's the only result I can find.
 

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hey Robert,

The Jaeger/Austin match was in the Gunze Tournament, an event which started in the mid-70s and was sometimes a regular tournament and sometimes a non-tour exhibition. Word of Tennis 82 only gives the final result, though often this tournament contained 8 players.

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Carlsbad was just a two-day event:
sf
Evert d Shriver 64 63
Mandlikova def Jaeger 67 63 64

f: Evert won 64 63
3rd place play-off Shriver won 63 62
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Avon Futures Champs:

- these were held in Oklahoma acc to World of Tennis, not Chicago???

The sf and final were preceded by a round robin.
In Jaeger's group, there were:
Roberta McCallum, Lucia Romanov and Peanut Louie.
Louie lost to Jaeger in the rr (no score) as well as 64 63 in the sf but that's the only result I can find.

- this should be an edit of the above but I screwed up!
 

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Thanks again Andy, the statistics of all of Jaeger,s results should cover round 90 to 95 of her matches so far :)
 

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Looking through these results the French Open 1982 semi against Chris is a bit of a surprise. Did anyone see this match? Was everything OK with Chris or was Andrea just too good? Just seems a bit of a surprise to see Chris lose so easily on clay, especially in a Slam semi.
 

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Here's a snippet of the Sports Illustrated article on the 1982 French Open.....

"Actually, Navratilova, who now has won eight of nine tournaments, 42 of 43 matches and 85 of 96 sets this year in a rousing start toward the Grand Slam, might have thanked Jaeger for beating Chris Evert Lloyd 6-3 6-1 in the semi-final. It was as desultory a clay-court performance as Evert Lloyd has ever been party to. Maybe she wanted to concentrate on rooting for her husband John home in the mixed. (He reached the final with Wendy Turnbull.) Or perhaps, after so many years at the top, Evert Lloyd needs more than steady diet of Palooka-ettes in preparation for her matches against the three or four women capable of winning a major tournament. In one span against Jaeger, Evert Lloyd lost 30 of 39 points, 25 of them on unforced errors."

Jay :wavey:
 

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From "Inside Women's tennis", vol. 6, n°12, June 18, 1982
"Chris played her worst match in years, bowing out 63 61 to the athletic Andrea. She made so many unforced errors, that for many observers, it seemed as if the net must have been too high. "I played badly but Andrea played aggressively, and she was consistent too", said the gracious loser".
 

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rolling her way to the French final in 82, Andrea had lost only 10 games in 5 matches (she had a 1st rd bye)... Impressive!
 

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Right Hanafan; Evert might not have played her best Tennis BUT Andrea played some of her best Tennis during that fortnight at the french 82 losing hardly any games to anybody. Raquel: Jaeger was quit confident vs. Evert in 82 as she had beaten her in Oakland in 2 sets and in Hilton Head also; so the outcome wasn,t that much of a surprise.
 

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In 1982 Evert beqt Jaeger in the finals of Tokyo 61 75, I have the information it was the lions cup, I guess an exhibition? Has anyone further results of that please ? The same goes for Tokyo 1983, Evert beat Jaeger in the semis 63 63, probably Gunze? Any further results ?
Andrea got to the doubles final in Marco Island 1984, one of her last tournaments as a top player. Has someone got the single draw to see wheather she joined the singles there at all ?
 

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Loving the Palooka-ettes quote!
I saw the 1982 Oakland match vs. Evert in person and it was very close, so I was shocked when AJ killed her in the French semis later that year. Chris just simply never lost like that on clay. When Hana beat her the previous year in the same round, it was a struggle even though it was straight sets.
 

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Robert1: The sf results for the 82 Lion's Cup were Evert def Bunge 62 60 and Jaeger def Hanika 62 61. Hanika beat Bunge 75 62 for third place. World of Tennis 83 has the final result as 63 62 to Evert

Jaeger lost to Evert 61 75 in the 1983 Lion's Cup, before Evert lost to Navratilova 62 62 in the final. Navratilova had beaten Temesvari 63 63 in the other semi.

BTW, Jaeger retired to K. Jordan at 3-5 down in the 82 Gunze Tournament at Kobe. Jordan lost the final to Austin 63 61 (Austin def def Shriver 75 36 63 in the other semi)

Re your 63 63 result in 83, do you have any other info (dates, etc?).

I'm pretty sure Jaeger didn't play the Marco Island singles. Check out the results on tennis corner.
 
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