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Riyadh warns against voting for Yemen tribunal - Shafaqna English

There's a short vid that accompanies this article, though it cuts out after only about 5 minutes, but it includes a couple valid points, regardless.

You can't help wondering if the Saudis are really fearful of exposure when their good buddies in the UK and US media barely cover their OWN nationwide peodphilia shame, let alone those that are thousands of miles away. The British papers ran cover for the Westminster PM pedohile ring for years, and the Americans are more than happy to sing the praises of confirmed pedophile musicians. On those rare occasions when the Western press mentions KSA human rights violations, it's here today, gone for several weeks...out of sight, out of mind.

While I can't say with any certainty WHY the Saudis are so up-in-arms over the proposed investigation(and it's worth noting that the proposal comes with Canadian-Dutch sponsorship, neither country being one of the bigger Western power-brokers), it's hard to believe that they're worried about their cover being blown, though there are surely a few pragmatists in the Saudi regime who can step outside of their country's extremist ideology. Why would they worry about their p.r. image when their warped Wahabbist religion openly condones the rape of battle conquest victims and their regime funds the building of hate-spewing, apostate mosques everywhere?

I'm more inclined to think that this is a by-product that comes from the arrogance of a regime that has gone largely unchallenged on its abuses for decades now; that is, any challenge at all is an insult to their prestige. Whatever the case may be, it's encouraging that this war is shaping up like the KSA's version of the Vietnam War. Every report of Saudi military defeats--in spite of the massive support from the UK and US--gives us hope that this vile regime will finally get its comeuppance in the form of a miserably failed invasion
 

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https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/war-on-yemen/1262-saudi-genocidal-campaign.html

Some of you MIGHT be old enough to remember the late 90s when the "machorra" US attorney general Janet Reno announced that an FBI sting had caught several congressmen in acts of pedophilia.....then, a short time later, declared that the indictments were invalid because evidence was now inadmissible due to procedural errors:rolleyes:. Alternative media reporter Sybil Edmonds was an FBI agent at the time who was assigned to the case, and she maintains to this day that Machorra Reno's claims of inadmissibility were pure BS. Since most of the slimy pedophiles were Republicans, the 'enemy' party at the time, Edmonds believes that the Clinton administration simply decided to use the pedophilia evidence as a Sword of Damocles over the GOP's head as a blackmail tool...ready to single out any specific Republican by magically re-opening the investigation if he didn't co-operate enough.

While it's totally expected for politicians to act that way, the mainstream media's(MSM) conduct was BEYOND disgraceful. There was just light, sugar-coated reporting of the dismissals and NO follow-up, no outrage that the pedophile POSes were even allowed to walk around freely, let alone continue as politicians. Clearly, the chickenshit MSM was told by their bosses to let the story die. Amazingly, the Brit MSM has been worse--even vociferously attacking accusers who claimed to have empirical evidence of pedophilia abuse by MPs over the years. With THAT as a backdrop, it's not so unexpected that the UK and US media would sweep their so-called leaders friendship with Saudi Arabia(KSA) and, by proxy, al-Qaeda under the table. After all, even dim-witted, easily-distracted sheep from the Facebook Generation don't wanna hear about alliances between their leaders and a band of savages whose religious dogma justifies the rape of adolescents of either gender.

The only significant mistake in the article is the headline: Instead of stating that KSA genocide is 'reaching new heights', it should say that the Saudis--AND their US and UK facilitators--are 'sinking to new depths':rolleyes:
 

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British Quaker 'prepared for jail' after allegedly trying to disarm Saudi Arabia-bound fighter jet | The Independent

In happier news, the man above and his comrade were both acquitted by British courts. Only God can say whether the judges acted out of their own principle or merely feared the public backlash that would have resulted from jailing two men who were peacefully exposing the REAL criminals here; that is, the UK gov't. that has sold out to the vile KSA.

I don't expect everyone with a conscience to get arrested for a righteous cause as that would make me a monstrous hypocrite because I haven't done that myself. However, Mr. Walton and his friend have proven that you don't need vast wealth or great talent to make your voice heard or speak up for the victimized. There have been numerous public protests in the US and UK within the past year or two that even the cowards in the mainstream media couldn't ignore. In that same spirit, isn't it a worthy enough cause to INSIST that your government cut ties with, arguably, the most repugnant regime(along with their al-Qaeda flunkies) on the planet?
 

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PressTV-US trying to whitewash 9/11 facts: Iran

Perhaps the current, updated UK and US mainstream media(MSM) mindset is that anyone stupid enough to still trust them is INCAPABLE of deciphering truth from fairy tale...no matter if some of the sheep have informed friends who try hard to open the eyes of the deductively blind. More recent stories from the MSM have sunk to such an asinine level of mental retardation that they've apparently spewn forth from a miles-deep volcanic abyss of stupidity.

Recent attempts to blame Iran for al-Qaeda attacks completely ignore a rare, honest admission from Hilary Clinton that's cited in the article above; that is, al-Qaeda was birthed BY the US intelligence's shadow community. Also completely ignored is the scientific reality that the tower collapses could only have been caused by controlled demolitions. The fact that the US gov't. still refuses to acknowledge that is damning circumstantial evidence that they were CULPABLE in those explosions.

Yemen is an unfortunate steppingstone in the US war hawks' agenda to isolate Iran and engineer a regime change there that will bring forth another puppet...as the Shah was for so many years. Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are the most notable victims of that strategy so far, and Syria and North Korea are right next to Iran on a checklist that was formed by the Project for the New American Century think tank(comprised of powerful,close henchmen to Daddy Bush and, later, his son) just one year before the 9/11 false flag. Yemen is a relatively smaller prize in that sick game but, sadly, their resistance is "in the way"...and the UK and US big shots, along with their peons in the MSM, don't care how vile their KSA and al-Qaeda proxy bullies are...as long as the 'job' gets done:help:
 

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Yemen on brink of world?s ?largest famine in decades? | The Week UK

Normally, we should take any report from the UN with a grain of salt, as they tend to concoct accusations out of thin air against anyone who angers the organization's puppet-masters and conduct the wimpiest, most limp-wristed investigations of any nations that provide a good chunk of UN funding. The report linked above, however, smacks of far greater credibility because it portrays Saudi Arabia in a bad(translation: HONEST) light...the same KSA that the UN has typically been afraid to challenge...and has backed down from whenever a smaller UN subcommittee has fairly accused them of their myriad of human rights abuses.

I won't bother posting photos of a widespread hunger crisis because--if you're an even halfway-grounded human being--you don't need to see pics of starvation to be repulsed by it. Even so, the mainstream media should do its part to get the world's attention(don't hold your breath waiting for THOSE gutless cowards:rolleyes:). On the other hand, if you're at all similar to the lowlifes who comprise the Saudi royal family, then why should photos of starving children bother you? If your warped, apostate religious sect condones the rape of children and your government foments their trade as sexually-obligated human cattle, then it won't prick your deadened conscience one bit to see kids--or anyone ELSE--starve to death...and the KSA's trained terrorist thugs in al-Qaeda are nothing more than a 'brand extension' for the sickening Wahhabism that was born in Saudi Arabia.
 

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https://ahtribune.com/religion/155-a-history-of-wahhabism.html

Was reluctant to post the link to the article above as I don't share the author's warm feelings towards Islam in general and--though I question how impartial she can be as a devout Muslim--she always makes a sincere effort to respect people of all faiths and takes a thorough, academic approach to her work. Also, it's only fair to post a look at Saudi Arabia from the perspective of other Muslims.

It's a lengthy article on the history of Wahhabism, an apostate offshoot of Islam ( and Saudi Arabia's state religion), but what really got my attention was how--even back in the 1800s before the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia officially became a country--England was using Wahhabism as an agent provocateur to destabilize other nations in the region and accomplish the Crown's imperialistic goals. Things have only gotten worse with the flourishing of Wahabbism and its terroristic al-Qaeda recruits nowadays.

What's particularly disgusting is how college-educated members of the mainstream media(MSM) in the UK and US constantly pretend that forming an alliance with Saudi Arabia(KSA) is some sort of necessary evil to fight terrorism and human rights abuses by Islamic extremists in the Middle East. For anyone possessing even juvenile curiosity and investigative skills, the reality is that the KSA is the primary SOURCE of terrorism and arguably amongst the very worst of human rights abusers, including the sex trade of women and children, which their UK and US enablers are fully aware of.

The only rationalization for aligning with the KSA is purely Machiavellian: They happily co-operate with the UK, US and--for the first time, openly--Israel's military and Mossad, and they do whatever's required to undermine any nations that DON'T suck up to western imperialist interests. As we've seen , there are no depths to which they won't stoop:help:
 

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European Parliament Passes Resolution to Impose An Arms Embargo on Saudi Arabia for Human Rights Violations in Yemen - Shafaqna English

It's rare that we have good news to share here but this is an exception...at least SORT of. You'll notice how the countries mentioned in the link above who have fewer political dealings with Saudi Arabia are quicker to condemn the KSA's despicable human rights record. It remains to be seen if those more open-minded European nations can bring enough pressure to bear on the most complicit facilitators of Saudi atrocities. The fact that even some politicians are speaking out puts greater onus on independent citizens with a conscience to continue spreading the message of truth.

One closing thought: You can do some background checking on the UK's infamous governmental pedophile ring just by typing in the words "House of Horrors" amongst David Icke podcasts. I wonder how much clout it gives Saudi Arabia with UK politicians when they can provide nameless boys and girls to the embarrassingly-high number of British pedophile leaders...kids who can't be traced back to anywhere even if the politicians get overly sloppy and are caught red-handed, as some were in the Westminster pedophile ring. It's an appallingly-intricate black market
Oh, please!
David Icke is an antisemitic conspiracy theorist who believes he is guided by extraterrestrials.
By referencing such an idiot, you have destroyed any validity your posts might have held.
 

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The word anti-semitic means that someone, or their expressions of thought, shows hatred towards people of Semitic racial background. Most individuals--like the previous poster--are ignorant of that fact and carelessly toss the word around in an uninformed manner. Semitic ethnicity not only comprises Jews but also Arabs, many Syrians and Iraqis, and even many Ethiopians. In other words, someone could absolutely adore Jews and be anti-semitic in other respects through their hatred for Arabic people. Whether or not David Icke is anti-semitic is a question that each MATURE adult can investigate on his/her own. Personally, I've seen him criticize Israel's government, military and Mossad yet I've never heard any nasty rhetoric towards Jewish people in general. He has a skeptical view of ANY organized religion and not just Judaism, and he questions the right of Jews to inhabit Israel as their ancestral homeland, a point where I strongly disagree with him.

I also disagree with Icke on his comments that most all of the original Jews died out and that most of Israel's residents are Khazarian in origin, nor do I share his thoughts on extra-terrestrials. However, there are plenty of sane folks--including many respected leaders in the scientific community--who DO believe in ETs, so I don't simplistically dismiss anyone who has a contrary view on that topic as being incapable of coherent thought.

What stands out to me in David Icke's case is his investigative journalism into systemic pedophilia in the UK and a global pedophile network with tentacles reaching almost everywhere. Though the cowards in the UK mainstream media(MSM), for years, used Icke's beliefs about ETs as an excuse for covering up for their pedophile buddies in politics, Icke's factually-based research has now been empirically proven several times over, so now even the MSM in the UK grudgingly admits that there is some sort of pedophilia problem in England...though they still do their best to sweep it under the rug.

To sum up, even the MSM--despite its corporate control and censoring-- has journalists who strive to share the truth when they can so, even when the source isn't our favorite, we should judge information on its own merits instead of using the juvenile reasoning, 'Well, because HE said it, I automatically know it's a lie'......unless the person is a known compulsive liar, of course:lol:. With THAT in mind, here's a surprisingly-candid piece from the MSM.......
 

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Why Is Trump Backing Saudi?s Murderous Attacks on Yemen?

Quite frankly, I was shocked when I saw this report from an MSM source but thank goodness that at least a few MSM journalists haven't buried their heads in the sand. The sad reality is that MSM agencies are owned by corporations, and wealthy corporate heads are--pretty much without fail--close friends with the bankers, financiers and politicians who run our world. As such, the odds on their exposing their buddies are negligibly low, and negative articles are published mostly out of necessity. That is, enough of the masses know about something to the point where they'd get suspicious if an MSM agency never reported on a major issue. Even when the report comes out, it invariably just restates what everyone already knew...without delving all the way into the depths of corruption. Then, to distract the multitude, the MSM then focuses on some scandalous celebrity story so that most folks will forget all about the more pressing issues.

Thanks go out to the alternative media for their faithful reporting on the war in Yemen and the players involved. That has played a huge, arguably primary, role in forcing the MSM to acknowledge how morally questionable it is for the UK, US or ANYone to align themselves with the despicable regime that runs Saudi Arabia. Let's hope the truth continues to get out and that justice can somehow prevail in Yemen
 

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More good news:

https://www.facebook.com/calebmaupininfo/videos/1554111368005691/

Thankfully, the Saudi(KSA) army is only the 4th LARGEST in the world and not the 4th BEST. Many of its officer corps are chosen due to nepotism and have no military experience whatsoever. This leads to disorganization, and the foot soldiers are aware of the corruption so, somewhat understandably, they turn tail and run rather than fight for spoiled rich boys or their fat, slimy royals. The KSA royals counteract that, to at least some extent, by hiring mercenaries and training terroristic thugs

We can't underestimate the value of the alternative media here in exposing the human rights violations that the corporate mainstream media(MSM) would rather ignore. Donald Trump and Teresa May have no problem with bombing civilians into oblivion, but they'd rather not hitch their horses to a lost cause, and we now see that even Trump is distancing himself from KSA brutality. Even the MSM is grudgingly posting pics of starvation victims once in a while as they can't bury their heads in the sand about news that growing numbers of folks have learnt about elsewhere. Fortunately, this only weakens UK and US resolve for an alliance that has been so morally questionable from the beginning
 

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https://theintercept.com/2017/11/20/60-minutes-yemen-war-us-involvement/

The article above is fairly brief yet it accurately describes the chickenshit, quasi-journalism from mainstream media(MSM) outlets like 60 Minutes. The 60 Minutes program merely spoke on what the rest of the semi-informed world already KNEW thanks to the alternative media and internet sources, so they didn't expose anything new, and they made it seem like, "Oh, what a shame this starvation is going on in some other part of the world. Too bad we can't do anything about it." :rolleyes:.....when the unequivocal reality is that the UK and US governments are FACILITATING the starvation and human rights violations by a vile regime that runs Saudi Arabia(KSA).

Instead of trying to promote peace, the US State Dept. under Trump has actually been stirring up terrorist factions like al-Qaeda to try to weaken the Yemeni resistance in order to re-install a deposed puppet president who is living in Riyadh and is friendly to Western imperialist interests. Needless to say, the UK and US leaders aren't one iota vigilant about the brutality of their al-Qaeda buddies as long as the thugs keep co-operating with the imperialist goals. The Obama regime made feeble overtures towards Yemen near the end of his presidency last year, yet they refused to replace the US ambassador to Yemen, Matthew Tueller, who cut deals with the KSA behind the scenes and is basically nothing more than a blow-jobber for Saudi oil interests. Tueller's approach is QUITE welcome under the Trump regime, but you'll hear precious little about Tueller from the UK or US MSM........more on that next week.......
 

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https://www.facebook.com/mohamad.shami.33/videos/10155423293822217/

Originally, I wanted to continue on with last week's theme in greater detail but, in the holiday spirit, it seemed better to offer another message of hope. What we've seen is that the UK/US effort to pit Yemenis against each other has largely been a colossal f--k-up, thankfully. Despite the scheme by the mainstream media to ignore or minimize the REAL brutality within the country while scapegoating Houthis and pretending that the Yemeni resistance is part of some absurd Iranian imperialist conspiracy, it's clear that pretty much all of the Yemeni tribes are united against the Saudi/Coalition invasion. If they can just stand their ground, the Saudi cowards will eventually back down next year...ESPECIALLY if the US gov't. gets tired of KSA tactics and cuts way back on funding:cool:
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt0gwJyl2L8

The vid above lasts 22 minutes, but you don't need to watch the entire debate to catch the gist of what's happening which, to me, indicates at least SOME progress. The American journalist from the corporate media acknowledges--and calls for an end to--the abuses and excesses of Saudi Arabia(KSA) and supports the idea of an independent, autonomous Yemen that does NOT include the puppet president that the KSA, UN and western powers put in place in 2015. You couldn't find this ANYwhere in the mainstream media(MSM) a few months ago, where they pretended that the BS propaganda from the Coalition was actually true(i.e., that the citizen-led Yemeni Resistance was nothing more than a terrorist conspiracy between Iran and "militant extremist" Houthis).

As we've already seen, Trump and other big shots are starting to distance themselves from a shaky, poorly-led KSA, and the coporate MSM peons are following suit. Kudos again to the alternative media for publicizing this crisis to the point where millions of folks took note and the MSM couldn't sweep it under the rug anymore.

Of course, there's still no admission that it was wrong to give the vile KSA regime billions of dollars in aid and weaponry in the first place...nor is there any recognition that the Coalition has flagrantly been fighting alongside al-Qaeda forces...something that even several al-Qaeda leaders have admitted. Admitting THAT would be opening a whole new can of worms, namely that the UK, US, KSA and Israel have been supporting that repulsive band of thugs from the beginning(and you can include ISIS among those receiving support), using them as boogeymen to justify increased military budgets and heightened police-state powers
 

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Sorry to tell u that but no one in the world care.

Same goes for Africa and some of south America.

They are busy with trumps books or their political problems inside their home

And in general they don't care unless they have pressure from their ppl to act.

I'm talking in general about every country.
 

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Sorry to tell u that but no one in the world care.

Same goes for Africa and some of south America.

They are busy with trumps books or their political problems inside their home

And in general they don't care unless they have pressure from their ppl to act.

I'm talking in general about every country.
This is probably gonna rub people the wrong way, but until the African continent unites like N. America, Russia, China and basically every large land mass on earth, they're gonna continue to be vulnerable to any group that wants to do whatever.

They don't seem to understand strength in numbers, infrastructure on a continental scale, or from my view, seem too proud to even wanna hear anything from anyone not from their own country.

Honestly it's all in their hands. They just don't seem to understand that they need to look out for themselves and look out for "BLACK". They just don't get it. They just don't understand what's in the hearts of men, or how other cultures have come to see them over centuries of white supremacy.

Nothing anyone can do that's not over there. From many conversations with Africans I have had over the years...I just gave up.
 

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This is probably gonna rub people the wrong way, but until the African continent unites like N. America, Russia, China and basically every large land mass on earth, they're gonna continue to be vulnerable to any group that wants to do whatever.

They don't seem to understand strength in numbers, infrastructure on a continental scale, or from my view, seem too proud to even wanna hear anything from anyone not from their own country.

Honestly it's all in their hands. They just don't seem to understand that they need to look out for themselves and look out for "BLACK". They just don't get it. They just don't understand what's in the hearts of men, or how other cultures have come to see them over centuries of white supremacy.

Nothing anyone can do that's not over there. From many conversations with Africans I have had over the years...I just gave up.
You need to make allowance for climate. Most of the continent around the equator will never be developed any more than the Amazon basin is. And then there is the vast northern part that is desert. It is just not a good place for humans to prosper.
 

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This is probably gonna rub people the wrong way, but until the African continent unites like N. America, Russia, China and basically every large land mass on earth, they're gonna continue to be vulnerable to any group that wants to do whatever.

They don't seem to understand strength in numbers, infrastructure on a continental scale, or from my view, seem too proud to even wanna hear anything from anyone not from their own country.

Honestly it's all in their hands. They just don't seem to understand that they need to look out for themselves and look out for "BLACK". They just don't get it. They just don't understand what's in the hearts of men, or how other cultures have come to see them over centuries of white supremacy.

Nothing anyone can do that's not over there. From many conversations with Africans I have had over the years...I just gave up.
I know but they don't get it, they are where Europe has been many years ago, busy fighting each other and kill each other instead of unit

No one can help them, only a new generation not corrupted who wants to take Africa to the future
 

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You need to make allowance for climate. Most of the continent around the equator will never be developed any more than the Amazon basin is. And then there is the vast northern part that is desert. It is just not a good place for humans to prosper.
Nah, i'm not saying to develope and have the same problems the west has...I mean infrastructure. There is absolutely no excuse not to have a continental rail system to transport goods from each country to have a basis for an economy to rely on itself.

There's some countries that already do well and are developed...it's just it doesn't mean much for the ones that aren't. It's like they just don't give a shit about anything else but their home country. I always hated that word "tribalism"...but that's exactly what it is...and even when they come here...they feel they don't need a coalition with AA's while believing in the American dream like this society actually is equal.

If they never get the mentality to look out for their own, things will never change. Having a few billionaires while half a billion can't make a living is not taking them anywhere, and will be just like that for the next thousand years if they don't change their mentality.

The main reason blacks in America are not respected is because they know we're not only physically separated from our homeland, but mentally separated as well.

I blame tribalism on this and won't let Africans off the hook. Not only that, but those same images of Arabs taking them as slaves earlier in this thread...they will see them as "brothers"...which is the most ridiculous shit i've ever seen.

And it's been my conversations with Nigerians which have pissed me off the most and made me give up.
 

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https://www.opendemocracy.net/north-africa-west-asia/helen-lackner/why-can-t-united-nations-bring-peace-to-yemen

As you'll discover if you read the article, the question in the title is surely rhetorical. Since the UN is a puppet organization of the UK, US and banking cartels who want to overTHROW Yemen, those phony peacemakers aren't gonna stand in the way of the leaders of the War Machine. The article offers another truthful perspective on the parties involved in the Yemen conflict

....Which is a lot more than we can expect from the corporate mainstream media(MSM). As I've said many times, we get grudging admissions of reality from the MSM usually only after the alternative media has exposed something ugly to the point where it would be embarrassingly suspcious for the MSM not to report on it...and even THEN the MSM simply regurgitates, in a pretentious show of journalistic zeal, what everyone had already discovered. What else can you say about a group who treated it as "co-incidence" that al-Qaeda thugs were photographed fighting practically alongside Coalition forces on several occasions:facepalm:? Even the mentally walking dead might wonder, "Gee, aren't those guys supposed to be savage terrorists who support and promote conjugal relations between grown men and adolescent girls:silly:?"
 

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Who are the Houthis in Yemen? | News | Al Jazeera

The al-Jazeera article above is SOMEwhat dated as it was written in 2015, yet it still offers a far better objective portrayal of the Houthis that we hear so much about in Western media propaganda. In fact, corporate-owned Google and other search engines have algorithms to limit access to information that might be hostile to the agenda that their big bosses share.

I'm not going to even try to portray the Houthis as angelic figures simply because they're fighting against the vile Saudi-enforced Coalition. These battles are rarely of the fairy tale variety where you have crystal clearly-defined good and bad guys. My own research has discovered that marriage and conjugal relations between men and children(girls AND boys) went on in Yemen even before the Saudis had spread their brand of Wahabbism there before the war even started.

Even so, you can do your own research to prove to yourself that Wahabbist groups like al-Qaeda and their slimy brethren--who have been brainwashed with Saudi-based religious extremist doctrine--take sexual abuse to whole new depths that you wouldn't even expect from primitive societies that had no or little access to formal education. There are very valid reasons why the Yemeni people reject their deposed puppet president, Hadi, even though his re-instatement would probably mean an end to the invasion and, despite a massive mainstream media propaganda assault, the Yemeni Resistance forces enjoy almost unanimous support from everyday Yemeni citizens.
 
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