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Born guilty! Lost under bombing Yemen?s children call for peace | WILAYAH NEWS

The writer talks a little bit about human trafficking but, understandably, she focuses more on the starvation and violence that affects EVERYone in Yemen. She also makes another VERY powerful point; to paraphrase her, it would be a huge outrage if, say, France invaded Belgium and bombed them into oblivion. Not a day would pass without media coverage and condemnation of such an unwarranted attack. However, because it's some 'small, unimportant' Middle Eastern country being bombarded by the media agency owners' Saudi oil buddies, the news is either completely neglected or the savage Saudi butchers are portrayed as rescuing heroes:rolleyes:
 

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Saudi Arabia and al-Qaeda Unite in Yemen | The Huffington Post

...and above you'll find a fairly worthwhile article from Huffington Post, though there are 2 reporting errors that should be pointed out. Huffington sort of plays along by referring to the Americans' War on Terror in Yemen withOUT putting it in quotation marks: The US is the SOURCE of terror in Yemen with its arms, funding and political support.

The other mistake is the reference that KSA is "now" aligning itself with al-Qaeda. They always HAVE BEEN aligned with al-Qaeda, as KSA has been those terrorists' primary benefactors. The only difference now is that so much evidence for that has been brought to light that Saudi Arabia has seriously cut back on spewing their BS propaganda that they are "fighting" against" al-Qaeda since nobody with half a brain would ever believe that anymore:rolleyes:
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy6RHRHixic

The vid above is 47 minutes long and, in the likely event that you don't feel like watching it in its entirety, I've singled out some key points within its duration. Keep in mind that the vid was clearly shot long before the invasion by Saudi Arabia had escalated into chaos, even though the release date was apparently 5 months ago. We ALSO must remember that-even before the invasion officially started-the Saudis were already backing puppet politicians within the Yemeni government, and those individuals helped facilitate the planned overthrow by Riyadh.

I won't ignore the fact that slavery has been tolerated in certain predominantly-Islamic nations for centuries. However, that vile institution has visibly ramped up several notches with the increased influence of Wahabbism, the apostate Saudi version of Islam which spread to Yemen first via the Muslim Brotherhood that represented the minority party in Parliament in pre-war Yemen...and things are only getting worse now with USA, UK and KSA-backed al-Qaeda now openly participating in the invasion.

Just after the 7-minute mark in the video, the reporter relates testimony from a slave trader who claims that his Saudi customers will pay as much as $6 million for a slave. Do you think those clients are Saudi goat shepherds:rolleyes:? Between the 18 and 22 minute marks, the reporter talks about Yemeni MPs who are known as slave OWNERS. Seeing as how those MPs are Riyadh puppets, it's absurd to suggest that Saudi officials aren't customers, too. There's another brief statement about direct MP complicity just after the 46-minute mark
 

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https://youtu.be/K-fuuZPVDRs

If you ignore the first couple minutes in which the host 'sets the stage', so to speak, and the final minute when they roll the credits, this vid is almost exactly 30 minutes...or about the time that a totally brainless US TV sitcom lasts. In other words, even folks with short attention spans can make it through if justice and the respect for life matter at all.

The Lebanese journalist goes into detail about how the Saudis DON'T EVEN ALLOW MEDICAL SUPPLIES to enter Yemen with their blockade of the nation. These frauds--with the support of their British and American enablers--who invaded Yemen under the pretext of "fighting" terrorists are, in reality, the main SOURCE of terrorism, both with their military attacks and their now-obvious backing of the al-Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood thugs who regularly violate Yemen.

The British host relates how the invasion barely receives any mention in the UK's mainstream media...just an occasional superificial piece so that the British press can maintain the pretense of journalistic integrity. Even then, there are no detailed reports on the human rights brutalities inflicted by their heavily-funded and -armed Saudi buddies.

Lastly, I'd love for you to hear their comments on the absurd Oscars disgrace where some stupid MOVIE director--WHO'S NEVER SET FOOT IN SYRIA--received an award for her 'puff piece' on the White Helmets, who are no more than pawns and foot soldiers for the British military. If the Hollywood crowd dug a little deeper than their own extreme shallowness, they might learn an iota of truth, for once. Find out in the video above what REAL Syrians think of the White Helmets. For those who naively believe that Syria and Yemen are unrelated developments, any honest research will show you that they are closely connected in a scheme to install Western puppet regimes in the Middle East and control the region that way.
 

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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/379451-saudi-airstrikes-yemen-us-genocide/

Unlike the moron who gave a cinematic blow job to the White Helmets and the US and UK-led war machine--WITHOUT EVER SETTING FOOT IN SYRIA or bothering to do any worthwhile investigation, the journalist in the link above has spent quite a bit of time in Yemen, this despite the brutal blockade. If truth matters at all to you, then you can ask yourself why the average Yemeni citizen detests his/her supposed liberators in the Coalition. The owners of the mainstream(i.e., puppet) news agencies aren't all oil cartel executives, of course, but they're all too happy to cover for their filthy-rich pals in the international financial cabal
 

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The Trump admin has bombed Yemen more in a week than President Obama's admin did in a year.


American pilots heavily bombed over 40 targets in Yemen this week, which is more American strikes than occurred in all of 2016. The Trump administration is clearly very quick to green-light military strikes, as opposed to the “slow-moving policy discussions” under Obama, Foreign Policy notes. “The expanded bombing in Yemen signals a more aggressive use of military force by the Trump administration against Islamist militant,” they write. The military also released the results of an investigation into the commando raid in Yakla, which killed a US service member in January. The report said only 12 civilians were killed, lower than what journalists and human-rights groups have estimated, and cleared the military of any wrongdoing.
 

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https://www.facebook.com/mohamad.shami.33/videos/10154490369177217/

This is no big surprise to me, though I was hoping for a miracle, tbh; Trump didn't get so successful by being stupid, nor is he so arrogant that he would risk angering the engineers of the US/UK/globalist war machine. He saw what happened to the beloved JFK, so he realizes how much easier it would be to eliminate a largely unpopular prez as HE now is. The Saudis are already guilty of running a sex slave ring within their borders(though the official US gov't. story is that the KSA has simply failed to be adequately vigilant:rolleyes:), committing countless human rights abuses against women and political dissidents, funding & promoting terrorism...and now flagrant imperialism.It's hard to imagine ANY deeds that would be vile enough to compel the US to break the alliance with their Saudi buddies

EDIT:You'll need to use Translator for the audio portion of the vid
 

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212044010837683&set=a.10201967117521648.1073741826.1296394284&type=3

Above is a very detailed chart about the Coalition's "rescue" mission in Yemen; sadly, the statistics are pretty much identical with what we find when an imperial force is trying to bombard one of their targets into submission. Of course, the puppets/cowards in the mainstream media insist that the US/UK/KSA are doing this to fight terrorism and bring stability to the country, but any halfway-dedicated investigator would know that the Yemeni people want to be rescued FROM the Coalition, not BY them.

The only significant thing missing from the chart is the number of kidnaping victims who have been sold into slavery by the Saudis and their al-Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood thugs of various nationalities. It's always difficult enough to monitor such vile, black market activity, and that's even harder when most news sources refuse to admit that their bosses' buddies are involved in that evil mess.
 

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https://youtu.be/Dvi_kIfIvM8

It's hard to say what exponent you'd need to magnify the word 'appalling' so that it adequately described the Saudi government and the repulsively hypocritical alliance that the UK and US have made with the KSA. As you may confirm by listening to the program in the link above, Wahabbism--the state-sponsored religion of Saudi Arabia--allows a man to eat his wife since she is no more than property to him. It's insulting that they are asinine enough to qualify that liberty by saying that the man may only do so if he's hungry:help:. The big-name feminists groups have joined in the cowardly silence like submissive,eyelash-batting, kept whores because they are funded by the same globalist population-control maniacs('zealots' gives them too much credibility) who are buddy-buddy with both Israel's militant Zionists and the Saudi-led oil cartel. The grass-roots feminist groups who are outraged by the brutality mentioned above simply don't receive any airtime with the fellatio-performing stooges in the mainstream media. It's pure, uncut insanity that the KSA is even permitted to SET FOOT in the UN, let alone have a seat on its human rights council. It doesn't take much of a leap to figure out that any government who sanctioned cannibalism within marital relations would also do nothing about sexual slavery of women and children. In fact, there's enough evidence to demonstrate that they are CLIENTS of that trade and not just indifferent bystanders.

What would be equally laughable--if it weren't so disgustingly dishonest--is the claim by the ambassador to the UN of the Saudi-backed Yemeni puppet government that Houthi rebels are causing the deprivation in the country. Since it's common knowledge for anyone with an internet connection that the Saudis and the Coalition forces are blockading the country to deny food and medical supplies, that jackass,peon ambassador doesn't even deserve the respect of having a working microphone placed in front of him. The program also touches on how small the REAL Houthis are in number...and how the media plays with the name 'Houthi' in the same way that Western powers toss around the word 'terrorism' to rationalize police-state measures. The only difference here is that we're dealing with imperialism instead of domestic control
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCI8cbpun5Q

Though the entire vid is informative, those with less patience(and attention span) can get the gist within the first 20 minutes. That is,in the bigger picture, there's really no major difference between the events in Yemen and those in Syria. From a superficial standpoint, the western imperialist machine is trying to overthrow an uncooperative leader in Syria and RE-install a puppet government in Yemen, but the agenda is the same.

As for the media, there's a mixture of five elements: (1)Naive peons who just read from whatever teleprompter is put in front of them; (2)People who suspect, or know, that the government propaganda line might be BS...yet lack the courage to follow up; (3)Media members who KNOW that this Middle East agenda is all a globalist plot yet just don't give a damn; (4)Stooges who know the agenda and approve of it; (5) Asswipes who don't bother to investigate the truth because they're happy to draw a paycheck from ANYone, no matter how vile they are. It's anyone's guess as to how the perentages of those 5 groups break down, but the media agency managers are well aware of what's happening, and they tailor the news according to what their corporate bosses want.

In the same way that Trump claims he's attacking ISIS by going after Assad--when, in reality, the US, UK and KSA have funded, armed and trained ISIS--the Coalition force mouthpieces suggest that Houthi forces are causing starvation in Yemen. Anyone with a working brain cell could figure out that the Yemeni people would turn against the resistance and rat out their positions to the Coalition if, in truth, the Houthis were starving their own people. On the contrary, the overwhelming majority of Yemenis SUPPORT the resistance, as it's the Coalition who are actually blockading the country and preventing food OR medical supplies from entering. Once again, we get almost complete silence from the cowards in the mainstream media who are supposedly so concerned about human rights
 

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[ in reality, the US, UK and KSA have funded, armed and trained ISIS-
:eek: That's one hell of a claim to make. On what basis do you make it? I've seen nothing that would substantiate that view. It is clear that the result of the US and allies pursuing their agenda in the mid-east was conditions that allowed/influenced the formation of Daesh but beyond that :shrug:
 

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:eek: That's one hell of a claim to make. On what basis do you make it? I've seen nothing that would substantiate that view. It is clear that the result of the US and allies pursuing their agenda in the mid-east was conditions that allowed/influenced the formation of Daesh but beyond that :shrug:
Unfortunately, there's PLENTY of evidence, such as reports from the independent media that the only sighting that some Syrian citizens have had of the White Helmets was when they were CONFERRING with Daesh-led forces and providing them with supplies and weapons. It's obvious, by now, that Assad is fighting against ISIS/Daesh and not WITH them, so the very fact that they're trying to topple Assad is all the justification that the Brits/Yanks/Saudis need to support that terrorist group.

You're not gonna see jack shit from the mainstream media sources on this, because the filthy-rich corporations that own them are buddy-buddy with the oil cartel, just as nobody amongst those cowards would ask why the Yemeni people still support the Houthis even though those 'terrorists' are allegedly starving their own countrymen....Nor do they ask why in the hell Assad would launch a nerve gas attack against completely non-threatening civilian targets--and give the imperialist powers an extra excuse to bombard him--when he had been largely successful in repelling Daesh, with Russia's help. It makes no sense whatsoever yet it makes PERFECT sense for the Trump administration to blame Assad for the attack as a pretext for war. It's the same BS as with 9/11 all over again
 

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Unfortunately, there's PLENTY of evidence, such as reports from the independent media that the only sighting that some Syrian citizens have had of the White Helmets was when they were CONFERRING with Daesh-led forces and providing them with supplies and weapons. It's obvious, by now, that Assad is fighting against ISIS/Daesh and not WITH them, so the very fact that they're trying to topple Assad is all the justification that the Brits/Yanks/Saudis need to support that terrorist group.
Look, I do my best to assess your views as objectively as possible but sorry - you simply reiterating that there's lots of evidence doesn't mean squat. And the rest of your post is just strong opinions.

BTW Assad has used gas many times. I don't get the "why would he" tack some are taking. As if they have been privy to long and deep conversations with Assad and know how he thinks. Whatever the state of things has become, the war was started by Assad because he didn't think he could continue to hold power via political means.
 

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Look, I do my best to assess your views as objectively as possible but sorry - you simply reiterating that there's lots of evidence doesn't mean squat. And the rest of your post is just strong opinions.

BTW Assad has used gas many times. I don't get the "why would he" tack some are taking. As if they have been privy to long and deep conversations with Assad and know how he thinks. Whatever the state of things has become, the war was started by Assad because he didn't think he could continue to hold power via political means.
Ok, how about the fact that Gen. Wesley Clark consulted with the leaders of the Project for a New America which met in 2000 and compiled a list of countries where they wanted to engineer regime changes. He claims to have personally seen that list, and guess who was on it(?)--Iraq, Lybia and Syria and...of course...Iran. If you honestly accept everything your government and their mainstream media puppets tell you about why they go to war and their alleged justifications for it, then there's no amount of evidence that would ever change your mind:shrug:.

The idea that Assad would bomb civilian targets which were no threat to him whatsoever and--in the process--offer the West an excuse to attack him, is almost completely insane...and he WAS holding power, with Russia's help, so there was no reason to turn the populace--who TWICE ELECTED HIM--against him. He might not be an angel, but he only "started" the war in response to rebels that your government armed and trained, just as they've done all over Latin America, historically. If you're oblivious to what your government does, then there's nothing more I can say:shrug:
 

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Ok, how about the fact that Gen. Wesley Clark consulted with the leaders of the Project for a New America which met in 2000 and compiled a list of countries where they wanted to engineer regime changes. He claims to have personally seen that list, and guess who was on it(?)--Iraq, Lybia and Syria and...of course...Iran. If you honestly accept everything your government and their mainstream media puppets tell you about why they go to war and their alleged justifications for it, then there's no amount of evidence that would ever change your mind:
:eek: First of all you've provided no evidence. Second . . what? you made a claim that the US and its allies were funding and training Daesh. I replied that seem fanciful at best and now you're off on a tangent.

The idea that Assad would bomb civilian targets which were no threat to him whatsoever and--in the process--offer the West an excuse to attack him, is almost completely insane...and he WAS holding power, with Russia's help, so there was no reason to turn the populace--who TWICE ELECTED HIM--against him. He might not be an angel, but he only "started" the war in response to rebels that your government armed and trained, just as they've done all over Latin America, historically. If you're oblivious to what your government does, then there's nothing more I can say:shrug:
First, what's really insane is deluding yourself that you know how/why Assad makes decisions. You, surprisingly to me, are making the all too common mistake of thinking that because something doesn't make sense to you (or most of us) that there aren't those who will do it. By all credible sources -Assad has carried out other chemical attacks.

Second, you're distorting how things started. They started because Assad realized he could no longer hold power by political means. So, just like how the Assads seized power in the first place, he turned to military means.

Third, if you just want to post to yourself then continue with your current approach. As it is I seem to be the only one who cares to discus your posts, but you seem to now be taking a BS approach of responding to a rejection of a specific claim by sweeping generalizations.
 

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:eek: First of all you've provided no evidence. Second . . what? you made a claim that the US and its allies were funding and training Daesh. I replied that seem fanciful at best and now you're off on a tangent.


First, what's really insane is deluding yourself that you know how/why Assad makes decisions. You, surprisingly to me, are making the all too common mistake of thinking that because something doesn't make sense to you (or most of us) that there aren't those who will do it. By all credible sources -Assad has carried out other chemical attacks.

Second, you're distorting how things started. They started because Assad realized he could no longer hold power by political means. So, just like how the Assads seized power in the first place, he turned to military means.

Third, if you just want to post to yourself then continue with your current approach. As it is I seem to be the only one who cares to discus your posts, but you seem to now be taking a BS approach of responding to a rejection of a specific claim by sweeping generalizations.
Let me simplify here: First, I made a mistake with the title; it was called the Project for a New American Century, and the conference was held in 2000. There are PLENTIFUL links where you can find what was discussed there, and the key speakers became leaders within the Bush administration within a year. Since then, the puppets(Bush, Obama and Trump) have changed but the banking cabal who funds the war machine and controls everything with their agenda has remained the same.

In sum, the proposals were that the US military would forcibly engineer regime changes by concocting a Pearl Harbor-type incident(DONE; i.e., 9/11) to mobilize public support for war, invasion, or police-state measures. The same strategy would be repeated by various means: training and arming dim-witted patsies to serve as scapegoats for supposedly sweeping terrorist plots(9/11); blaming "the enemy" for what you or your cronies secretly did(the alleged Sarin attack by Assad); arming terroristic thugs and then blaming the sitting government for stifling democracy and free speech when they react accordingly(Yemen and NUMEROUS other occasions over the years); or simply inventing complete hoaxes and feeding lines to mainstream media stooges(Sandy Hook).

The popularly-elected Yemeni government--as opposed to the deposed,Saudi-led puppet regime--was mainly guilty of not being yes-men to the US-UK-KSA imperialist agenda. As for Assad, if you're going to ignore the question of why he would pointlessly attack civilian targets with nerve gas and turn his people against him--when he had been WINNING the fight against Daesh, with Russia's help--then ask yourself why Trump had to strike so rapidly, withOUT getting congressional approval. Could it be because the regime didn't want any investigation of the (likely) BS claims of an Assad-approved Sarin attack? Do a photo search and you'll find pics of White Helmets touching the dead with their bare hands, while wearing normal clothing. Any basic knowledge of sarin will tell you that such action is a surefire death wish. Special protective clothing is needed to ward off sarin, aside from the bare hands insanity. Assad is no angel, but he was twice elected by his own people, and he only had to use military means because of the Daesh thugs that the UK, US and KSA helped organize. If you check out journalist Marwa Osman's reports, you'll hear testimony from her interviews with Syrian citizens, in which they said their only sighting of White Helmets was when they were CONFERRING with and HELPING Daesh forces.

The most pathetic lie from the mainstream media is when they blame Houthis for the starvation issues in Yemen, as if aid workers tried to bring food to the Yemeni people and the Houthis said, "NO! We don't want them to get any food!":rolleyes: There is no excuse whatsoever for the Coalition to deny food and medical supplies to the population with the current blockade. If the media ignores that while self-righteously posturing about human rights elsewher, their blabbering is just pure :bs:.

Again, check out the Project for the New American Century; it will truly open your eyes to what's going on in the Middle East and elsewhere
 

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Poster "pov" has raised respectful objections to my claim that the US-UK-KSA governments have directly supported ISIS, and my reply--for EVERYONE's contemplation--is that the US intelligence community has already ADMITTED to arming and funding "moderate rebels", supposedly to fight against unfavorable regimes. As everyone has seen,so many of those so-called moderate rebels have turned out to be the same types of thugs you'd find in any al-Qaeda or ISIS cell.

The question is: Do you believe the US-UK alibi that they simply, honestly miscalculated in estimating which rebels were "moderates", or did they realize EXACTLY what they were doing from the get-go? In my view, you have to be extremely naive to give the US/UK/Saudi governments and intelligence corps the benefit of the doubt here. And--if they did it with al-Qaeda--there's no reason to doubt that they've done the same with ISIS...and the Muslim Brotherhood in Yemen.

The openly stated goal in supporting rebels has been to destabilize a government that the Western powers deem unfit, but they don't even give a damn if they have to unleash terrorists or Wahabbist religious extremists to do that. Why not? Because, ultimately--despite their characterization as lunatics incapable of coherent thought--even terrorists and religious fanatics will bow down and 'follow the program' when it comes to their source of arms and funding. That's why there's no concern amongst the US-UK hierarchy about replacing a popularly-elected president with an ISIS,al-Qaeda, or Muslim Brotherhood stooge
 
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