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To start with, yesterday's US election results were a bit surprising because the Rodham clan is a powerful Illuminati family, and that usually carries more weight with the elite than a wealthy outsider like Trump does...but the elections are a topic for another thread.

What IS crystal clear is that the Obama regime has figuratively been bending over a railing and "taking it in the caboose" from the Saudis since the beginning(something that Barack enjoys getting in a LITERAL sense, as well...but that's also off topic;)), but that's something that has been going on with Democrats AND Republicans for decades. You'd have to cite Jimmy Carter as the last US president who wasn't almost completely beholden to the Saudis and their oil.

There's no question that the mess in Yemen would continue under Hilary until/unless the Yemenis got enough military aid from Russia to repel the Saudi invasion. In fact, it would probably get even worse, with the US providing whatever weaponry and military support was needed to complete the conquest. Once they had a puppet gov't. in place, the Saudis and their close al-Qaeda buddies would REALLY open up the Asian sex-slave market, using Yemen as a home base.

Will Trump have the integrity to hold the Saudis accountable for their human rights violations and direct support for terrorism? That's tough to visualize, because he's a very savvy businessman, and it's hard to imagine that he would stand against such a vital ally of the US war machine as Saudia Arabia is. Kennedy was killed for daring to discuss military withdrawal from Vietnam, and Trump is surely aware of that. So, unless he has developed a messiah complex in his old age, Trump won't risk his personal survival to block the military/defense establishment. I don't know that much about Pence, who would take over if Trump were out of the picture

EDIT: The Rodhams have a genealogical link to Illuminati families going back several centuries, but the modern-day Rodhams aren't anything like the Bushes and other clans with high-ranking Illuminati status
 

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1.To start with, yesterday's US election results were a bit surprising because the Rodham clan is a powerful Illuminati family

2.Will Trump have the integrity to hold the Saudis accountable for their human rights violations and direct support for terrorism? That's tough to visualize, because he's a very savvy businessman, and it's hard to imagine that he would stand against such a vital ally of the US war machine as Saudia Arabia is.
1. The comment above was a failure on my part to follow up. Though Hilary has unusually-high standing for a non-royal female amongst secret society networks, she and her family don't have anywhere near the bloodline connection to the Illuminati as, say, the Bushes do.

2.For those who are unfamiliar with the Saudi contribution to the US agenda, you should first realize that an airplane collision canNOT cause a tower to collapse in the manner that you can witness in 9/11 videos. It's scientifically impossible. The plane impact offered a pretext for pre-planned, controlled demolitions, which is pretty much the only way to engineer such a symmetrical building collapse.

The reason why the Saudi royals have carte blanche with brutal human rights violations against women and any non-Wahabbists(which includes the illegal invasion of Yemen and the sex trade there), not to mention flagrant terrorist backing and promotion almost worldwide, is because of both their oil supply AND their vital role in the modern US war machine.

Though the ripples reach far and wide, it's a rather simple system fomented by setting up Wahabbist mosques that seek angry,dim-witted youth to manipulate. The best prospects are recruited with drugs and loose women to entice them. They are brainwashed and often even directly trained and armed by US or UK agents.Once the terroristic act has been done to shock and frighten the public, there is now a justification to pursue war to protect the people from further terrorism

After these "terrorist masterminds" do something extreme, there are sometimes friends, family or acquaintances who come forth and speak to the press about how the deceased had contact with agents in the Intel sector. Whenever those leaks surface, we are certain to get some lame explanation as to how it's impossible to monitor all of those "rogue agents"(who weren't rogues at all but rather totally compliant with their gov't.)...or that the US gov't. was looking for "more moderate rebels" to fight against the supposedly more extreme ones...and that they just failed to anticipate that their crazed recruit would "betray" them by committing a terrorist act.

Anyone who passively swallows such BS is at least partly complicit in the perpetuation of the system described above, and that system has emboldened the Saudis to wage war in Yemen and broaden their vile slave trade
 

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Lies, lies and more lies over fabricated Mecca attack ? the opportunism of religious politicking is shameful! | Shafaqna English

The article above is fairly detailed though not very long, and it mentions--amongst other things--how the Saudi state-run media is now claiming that Yemeni forces launched a missile bomb at one of the Saudi "holy" sites. I put that word in quotes because Wahabbists leaders regularly have wild parties with prostitutes, liquor and cocaine...they just do it off camera to maintain their religious farce. In contrast, lots of sites that represent Muslim tradition-- which predates apostate Wahabbism by several centuries--have been leveled to the ground so that the Saudis can put up McDonalds and flashy tourist-aimed hotels.

In many other predominantly Muslim nations, Wahabbist-led groups have destroyed other ancient sites in an attempt to eliminate the competition, so to speak. That is, if they cut off all references to any original Islamic teachings--which are far less extreme than Wahabbism is--then they can convince future generations of Muslims that the Saudi-birthed apostasy is the only true version of Islam.

In a way, i'm slightly optimistic about the total BS report issued by the Saudi media stooges, even though the cowards in the UK and US mainstream media will treat it like a legitimate story. The simplistic strategy--NO, we're not the bad guys, THEY attacked US, see?--has gone on for much of recorded history, but the fact that the Saudis feel the need to shift the blame is an indication that more and more people are learning about the completely unjustified invasion of Yemen and, hopefully, the sex-slave trade that's going on there, too
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrxzw1bXhPo

Critics can rightfully claim that showing images of innocent victims in a conflict can serve as a psychological ploy to legitimize the cause of even vile forces. However, such use of the visual medium does NOT prevent the viewer, IN ANY WAY, from doing follow-up to learn more about whatever has transpired.

As my own experience can back this up very well, it's so easy for an 'out-of-sight, out-of-mind' mentality to kick in when it comes to ethnic groups whom we don't see on any regular basis, and this can lead to conceptual dehumanization of those groups. This is only exacerbated now thanks to a Western media conspiracy that subtly depicts Middle Easterners(or most from the Muslim religion) as savage animals who love to violently attack others. Just look at the asinine media reports from the occupied territories, where they constantly regurgitate that the Israeli army is "retaliating" to attacks from Palestinians when, in fact, that army initiated the aggression by invading and bulldozing homes in internationally agreed-upon territory that belongs to those residents(I have absolutely NO objection to Jews having a homeland in Israel proper, which is plenty reasonable).

You can bet that some of the al-Qaeda members are spewing the same BS that we heard in a video from a previous page--in re the sex-slave trade in Afghanistan--about how they are "rescuing" the young prostitutes from poverty.....or, in THIS case, from the war in their country...a war that al-Qaeda and the Saudis started out of pure greed for control, of course:rolleyes:
 

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bruce goose,


Will Trump have the integrity to hold the Saudis accountable for their human rights violations and direct support for terrorism {in Yemen}?



Only if you can prove that it is any of his goddamn business.
 

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Now this is some straight up bull sh#t. :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6U2nrRJ4HU
The vid above from 'Hippity Hop' is less than 15 minutes and well worth watching.Didn't catch the date on the vid, but it's definitely set before the Saudi war invasion...probably within the last 10 years or so.

What is particular relevant to this thread is a clip near the end which shows how the popularly-elected majority party in Yemen's parliament tried to raise the minimum marriage age for girls yet were blocked by the opposition party that's controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.

A rep from that party tries to rationalize that their leader Mohammed didn't specifically prohibit marriages between men and pre-pubescent girls; therefore, it must be allowable:rolleyes:. This is juvenile reasoning tantamount to, "Well, my elderly neighbors have never come forth and asked me not to blast loud music at 2am, so they must not mind if I choose to do that tonight." Ummmm, maybe Mohammed never forbade you from marrying an 8-year-old because he assumed most folks(that is, NON-perverts) had enough common sense to recognize such perversion for what it is:silly:

Exposed: The Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda Working Together | The Olive Branch Report

The short article above details a growing bond between the Muslim Brotherhood(MB) and al-Qaeda in Egypt, which doubtlessly isn't limited to Egypt. This shouldn't surprise anyone because the mentality of the 2 groups has always been virtually identical. The only differences are superficial: the MB was founded in Egypt while Wahabbism(represented by ISIS and al-Qaeda) started in Saudi Arabia. Most all of their arguments in the past have been of the "I was here first, so I'M in charge" variety--nothing ideological. Due to the strong link between the UK, the US and the Saudis, al-Qaeda and ISIS have received FAR more support from western gov. and intel agents and the Saudi royals--in terms of funding, training and arming--than the MB has.

.....Yet that is clearly going to balance out more in the future. Not only are the Saudis pushing for more co-operation between al-Qaeda members and the MB in Egypt, it doesn't take much deductive reasoning to figure out that the MB opposition party in Yemen helped facilitate the Saudi invasion there in order to establish Shar'ia in Yemen. In closing, it should be noted that Wahabbists(and their spiritual half-brothers, the MB) are highly involved in the exact same type of occult religion rituals as western freemasons are, so it's NO surprise at all that they engage in the same manner of child sexual abuse
 

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The vid above from 'Hippity Hop' is less than 15 minutes and well worth watching.Didn't catch the date on the vid, but it's definitely set before the Saudi war invasion...probably within the last 10 years or so.

What is particular relevant to this thread is a clip near the end which shows how the popularly-elected majority party in Yemen's parliament tried to raise the minimum marriage age for girls yet were blocked by the opposition party that's controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.

A rep from that party tries to rationalize that their leader Mohammed didn't specifically prohibit marriages between men and pre-pubescent girls; therefore, it must be allowable:rolleyes:. This is juvenile reasoning tantamount to, "Well, my elderly neighbors have never come forth and asked me not to blast loud music at 2am, so they must not mind if I choose to do that tonight." Ummmm, maybe Mohammed never forbade you from marrying an 8-year-old because he assumed most folks(that is, NON-perverts) had enough common sense to recognize such perversion for what it is:silly:

Exposed: The Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda Working Together | The Olive Branch Report

The short article above details a growing bond between the Muslim Brotherhood(MB) and al-Qaeda in Egypt, which doubtlessly isn't limited to Egypt. This shouldn't surprise anyone because the mentality of the 2 groups has always been virtually identical. The only differences are superficial: the MB was founded in Egypt while Wahabbism(represented by ISIS and al-Qaeda) started in Saudi Arabia. Most all of their arguments in the past have been of the "I was here first, so I'M in charge" variety--nothing ideological. Due to the strong link between the UK, the US and the Saudis, al-Qaeda and ISIS have received FAR more support from western gov. and intel agents and the Saudi royals--in terms of funding, training and arming--than the MB has.

.....Yet that is clearly going to balance out more in the future. Not only are the Saudis pushing for more co-operation between al-Qaeda members and the MB in Egypt, it doesn't take much deductive reasoning to figure out that the MB opposition party in Yemen helped facilitate the Saudi invasion there in order to establish Shar'ia in Yemen. In closing, it should be noted that Wahabbists(and their spiritual half-brothers, the MB) are highly involved in the exact same type of occult religion rituals as western freemasons are, so it's NO surprise at all that they engage in the same manner of child sexual abuse
Unfortunately, the example of Mohammed supports marrying children since he married a 6 year old child. And since he is considered to be the perfect Muslim, it follows that they would not see anything wrong with it.
 

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Unfortunately, the example of Mohammed supports marrying children since he married a 6 year old child. And since he is considered to be the perfect Muslim, it follows that they would not see anything wrong with it.
Well, I certainly won't deny the possibility that the man named Muhammed was a sex pervert himself, especially if you have solid evidence that he condoned sexual relations between men and young children.

From what I've gathered, millions of Muslims who respect natural law will argue that it was more of an arranged marriage in the sense that the father was pledging his daughter as a gift TO BE RECEIVED IN THE FUTURE once she was old enough to be a legit bride in the manner that you and I know it.

Of course, if Muhammad had a relationship--if you can even call it that-- with a young girl, then any claims at being a prophet of God are pure BS
 

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https://youtu.be/cVDGzR9ED7o

The video above MAY have been cut from YouTube(by request from a higher-up, of course), as I had to go back to the original source to find it again. Obviously, we shouldn't be surprised at all when the UK and US governments--and their puppet, corporate mainstream media--blather self-righteous rhetoric about fighting for democracy and human rights...and then support the most UN-democratic and brutally abusive regimes in political marriages of convenience.

We can SORT OF get it when we look back on using puppet dictators who stood against communist threats(though some of those threats were concocted via gov't. propaganda), as the UK and US could argue that they at least had a measure of control over their puppet and could influence him, whereas it was hard to reach people at all in, say, old Soviet bloc countries.

However, there is no real threat to the sovereignty of Saudi Arabia's regime(though they were apparently afraid of Saddam Hussein at his military height), nor is there even any pretense from the vile Saudi royals at respecting the dignity of any citizen who publicly disagrees with them. The only apparent motive for the UK and US alliance with Saudi Arabia is pure greed...and it gets even MORE dishonest when you go back to proclamations made against al-Qaeda as the worst of the worst on the planet...when both governments KNEW that their Saudi buddies were helping to fund and organize al-Qaeda.Even if you're mega-naive enough to believe that it's just certain rogue princes--and not the ruling Saudi politicians--who support al-Qaeda, there's never been an ounce of evidence that the Saudi regime has done jack shit to pursue al-Qaeda(or ISIS...or Muslim Brotherhood) terrorists...which only heavily re-inforces the belief that the UK and US themselves are training and using al-Qaeda peon foot soldiers to justify military aggression in the "war on terror".

You might hope that the West would draw the line SOMEwhere, with respect to the horrific sexual abuses of ISIS and al-Qaeda...but then you look at pedophiles like Ted Heath and a slew of British MPs...and violent sex abusers such as Nixon, Ford, Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton(not that there's any support from the blow-job expert or his tranny 'wife' who are currently in the White House)...and then it's clearer how those government officials--and their pals who direct the media agencies(several of whom have been caught in the act as pedophiles, as well) wouldn't have any compassion for victims of the sex-slave trade and war of aggression in Yemen.
 

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Religious Eugenics in the Yemen | Katehon think tank. Geopolitics & Tradition

The article above is rather long for the woefully short attention span of the Facebook Generation, but it's quite informative for anyone with the patience to slowly read it over(the writer is not a native English speaker, yet the mistakes are fairly minor).

You don't need to have any strong religious beliefs to appreciate the gravity of the conflict here. In fact, atheists should be even MORE sympathetic to the victims of religious extremism, who are only increasing in number as the Saudis, Brits and Americans promote the growth of Wahabbism via al-Qaeda, ISIS and now the Muslim Brotherhood, too. Wahabbist preachers seek out angry young men and immerse them into a violent ideology that serves as a magnet for their anger. Before long, they act out that hatred in physical violence and become desensitized to it.....and then even making sex slaves out of women and children doesn't make a blip on their non-functioning moral radar
 

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Any forum "heroes" marching off to Yemen soon in order to bring about reform? When you do, please send us a picture post card of your heroic actions.
 

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How Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen has made al Qaeda stronger and richer

In the interest of fairness, I wanted to post a mainstream media article--in this particular case, it's from Reuters--to offer another perspective.

Anyone who refuses to use any deductive reasoning(which some folks are, sadly, UNABLE to use) is, pretty much, a stooge anyway but, hopefully, there are some readers who can 'read between the lines', so to speak, and see the corporate media-driven BS in the article above. What stands out to me is the claim that al-Qaeda influence was an "unintended consequence" of the Saudi invasion in Yemen.

Let's see...the Saudi goverment has openly stated that they wanted a more cordial relationship with al-Qaeda...money transfers for Wahabbist temple construction and al-Qaeda arms purchases have been directly traced back to the bank accounts of the highest-level Saudi princes...al-Qaeda always seems to facilitate Saudi ideological aims, withOUT fail...and yet it was "unintended" by the Saudis for al-Qaeda to heavily impact Yemeni society during the invasion. Sounds like awesome, totally independent investigative reporting to me:worship::silly:

Worth noting that the UK/US/Saudi-sanctioned sex-slave trade wasn't even mentioned as one of the "unintended" consequences. Then again, freedom from being raped or sold into slavery doesn't rate that highly on the scale of human rights, so it's not entertaining enough for Reuters to report on, is it :rolleyes:?
 

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https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-yemen-on-december-20-2016-map-update/

Above you can see a fairly-updated map of the military conflict in Yemen right now. Sadly, it appears that the Saudis and their terrorist thugs now control well over Yemen's land mass. However, history has shown us some FAR more unlikely resistance fights that managed to succeed......and if the Russians choose to offer armaments to Yemeni forces, that could tip the balance in Yemen's favor even more.

Ideally, the UN and world community will persuade the Saudis that they have no business being there, ESPECIALLY in fomenting the vile sex-slave trade, but that would take a while to come to pass, as it requires certain spineless so-called leaders and media agencies to actually 'grow a pair'
 

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http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com Yet Another Naval False Flag Sets Stage for Yemen War International Forecaster Weekly

Anyone with a few ounces of common sense can read the article above and decide why the Houthi rebels would ramp up an already-huge challenge by randomly, suddenly attacking US warships to give their military a rationalization to enter a war for which they clearly wanted to offer an excuse--to their Congress--to participate in. Amazingly, with all of the well-educated folks in the US and UK mainstream media, not a single one of them found the governmental claims above worth questioning.

There are three techniques that have recently become popular with wannabe invaders and warmongers. (1)Create a BS hoax attack with a little bit of clever planning(e.g., the 9/11 Pentagon 'bombing'); (2)Find, train and arm a few peons and trick them into attacking a target(AFTER allowing them free access to do so, as with purposely lax plane security) so that you have an excuse to go to war against a chosen enemy(e.g., the 9/11 WTC scheme); or (3)Put together a ragtag bunch of violent "rebels" and have them commit acts of terrorism.....then turn around and blame the sitting, popular-elected government for the violence--that YOUR "moderate rebels" did--as a pretext for invading the country on supposed human rights grounds; e.g., Libya, Syria and now Yemen.

The Saudi government, which beheads dissidents without trials about every other day(many of whom are true Muslims that are protesting the apostate, Wahabbist version forcibly applied by the Saudi gov't.), are completely credible:rolleyes: when they claim they had NO IDEA that al-Qaeda thugs(FUNDED by Riyadh) would get involved in the Yemeni invasion. Likewise, a regime that runs a police state that brutally puts down any resistance SOMEhow lacks the manpower to arrest sex-slave traders(that is, governmental SUPPLIERS) who do their deeds in broad daylight with no fear whatsoever of prosecution
 

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https://soundcloud.com/rs-karim/talk-radio-europe-pippa-jones-show

The link above is for a radio show with a British journalist who acknowledges and laments her own country's media and government's willful ignorance of the situation in Yemen. My own experience has confirmed how successful this scam has been. A friend from the UAE swears to me that her government--working hand-in-hand with the Saudi regime--is in Yemen on a rescue mission for the people. The scam works like this(basically) : (1)Make a big show of donations to so-called international organizations that claim to be helping the Yemeni people; (2)Spend virtually all of the money on vehicles, staff salaries and office structures for the organization so that auditors can verify that funds were spent; (3)Give practically NOTHING to the Yemenis themselves so that the Saudis can continue starving them out for the purpose of turning them against their own Yemeni freedom fighters.

The report also touches on the connection between the imperialism in Syria and Yemen. I.e., whenever folks start paying more attention to the brutlality in Yemen, there's a Mossad, CIA, or MI-6 engineered bombing in Syria to distract the masses again.In fact, the two countries are linked in the sense that they are BOTH part of the exact same broader US, UK, Israeli and Saudi agenda to completely control the Middle East and violemtly impose their collective will there........There's no mention of the sex-slave trade in the report above because starvation issues are so pressing that they take precedence for now...and that, obviously, only gives the al-Qaeda traders greater latitude.

The audio connection with the Yemeni reporter is bad for the first minute or so, but it clears up after that
 

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https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2016/2/23/al-qaeda-fighting-with-saudi-led-coalition-forces-in-yemen

It's shocking that ANYone connected with the BBC actually pried into this(translation: somebody's gonna be unemployed or...if they're lucky...stuck with solely grunt work soon). Part of the charade is for the al-Qaeda thugs to kill 1 or 2 government soldiers(i.e., expendables) every once in a while to maintain the pretense that they aren't working DIRECTLY with Riyadh....though there are surely a few who are so psychotic that they randomly fire their weapons at ANYbody.

It's worth noting how angry the hired killers were that a female reporter would show her face in their presence. There were too many witnesses for the death squad to seize and rape her, thank God, but NOW they'll have to go back into their tents to masturbate...or find some local village--once the cameras have left--so they can satiate their maniacal desires: ":mad:How DARE she come into our midst when we don't have the free time to feed our savage lusts! Doesn't she know that it's her duty to make herself ready for us to loan her to one of our benefactors in forced prostitution!!"
 

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https://www.facebook.com/mohamad.shami.33/videos/10154326741042217/

Before anyone complains, YES, video can be manipulated, of course, but do your own research--if you care to do so--to find out just how concerned the US-led coalition is concerned about 'protecting civilians'...as they do so well in the vid above:help:.

During my Christmastime sojourn in the US, I met several Mexican-Americans who had no clue that the gasolinazo was occurring down here, because the US corporate media made pretty much ZERO mention of it in their so-called news broadcasts. So, if they can cover up for their oil industry buddies' corruption in a bordering nation, just imagine how silent they are on the evils that are perpetrated by the Oil & Power Greed Coalition in some small, 'unimportant' country that's so much farther away.

A fair amount of people have a vague notion that the UK and US are supposedly fighting for human rights in the Middle East, yet they never get any halfway-credible explanation as to why they'd form an alliance with a vile regime like the Saudis' for whom human rights are just a joke...and that's especially true for victims of the sex-slave trade, who are completely ignored:help: due to the glitzier war headlines.
 

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https://youtu.be/xiKoxSC3ZPw

Some of the images in the video above are quite graphic, so be warned if you have a weak stomach over starvation scenes. The hostile atmosphere that's currently in the US is certainly worthy of attention, but so many people fail to realize that such stories also serve as an excuse for the puppets in the mainstream corporate media to ignore OTHER issues that their masters would rather see glossed over or completely hidden, when possible. Siege-imposed famine is unquestionably a worthy news story, too, yet any honest posters would have to admit that the situation in Yemen barely gets any attention at all(perhaps NONE from certain networks), and only a fraction of newswatchers--and only in the alternative media--know about the sex-slave trade between Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

Let's not forget that the Masonic Code--i.e., Order from chaos--is the underlying motivation for the powerbrokers who engineer wars such as those in the Middle East right now. It's also referred to as Problem>Reaction>Solution. The most well-known modern example was with the 9/11 scheme: (1) Find some dimwitted peons and lessen security to allow them to attack you; (2)Offer to protect everyone from the terrorism that YOU planned and instigated; and (3)Go to war with nations whose leaders you'd wanted to eliminate for many years prior. The only big modifications in Yemen were allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to join al-Qaeda in Saudi-sponsored terrorism...then blaming the popularly-elected government for the violence. Naturally, it was a democratically-chosen regime that was unwilling to kowtow to the UK and US
 
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