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pancake Oct 10th, 2017 02:47 AM

Homophobia / LGBT Issues
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Hanan Ubis Oct 10th, 2017 02:35 PM

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Imo, if you are homophobic or anti-LGBT, then you don't believe in freedom, and have a bit of authoritarian in you.

Williamsser Oct 18th, 2017 11:59 AM

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UK patients visiting NHS will have to say if they are GAY

UK: Patients visiting NHS will have to say if they are GAY under 'Orwellian' new plans | UK | News |

As of April 2019, anyone aged over 16 will have to say whether they are gay, straight or bisexual.

NHS England refused to give details about how the information will be collected and there are fears that patients may be quizzed by GPs, nurses or even receptionists.

Speaking to the Mail on Sunday, Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said: “It sounds intrusive and Orwellian.”

Health chiefs say NHS organisations and councils must ask so they can create better data on gay and bisexual people’s health in England.

Gay rights groups have warned that failing to do so could break the Equality Act 2010.

Politicians and doctors say that it is not the place of the NHS to ask patients about their sexuality.

pov Nov 9th, 2017 08:54 PM

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Murders and Other Violence Against Transgender People is on the Rise, Advocates Say

On Oct. 21, a body was found off a county road west of Corpus Christi, Tex., with bullet wounds to the chest, abdomen and shoulders.

The victim was Stephanie Montez, a transgender woman. But because the police misidentified her as a man, it was not until last week that Ms. Montez, 47, was known to be among the more than two dozen transgender Americans killed this year.

Even as transgender people have scored political victories and turned public opinion in favor of more protections, violence has risen, especially against black and Hispanic transgender women. And Ms. Montez’s case shows the difficulties advocates face in tracking killings and other hate crimes.

The full death toll is impossible to determine, but by rights groups’ estimates, each of the past three years has become the deadliest on record.

The Human Rights Campaign has documented the killings of 25 transgender people in the United States so far in 2017, compared with 23 last year and 21 in 2015. Other organizations, like Glaad and the Transgender Law Center, have slightly different tallies, but the trend holds.

Transgender people have been killed this year in Chicago and in Waxahachie, Tex.; in the Ozarks of Missouri and on the sidewalks of Manhattan. They have been shot, stabbed, burned and, in at least one case, pushed into a river. On average, one to two have been killed somewhere in the United States every week.

And experts say these numbers almost certainly understate the problem. Local officials are not required to report such killings to any central database, and because the police sometimes release incorrect names or genders, it can be difficult to know that a homicide victim was transgender. So advocacy groups are left to comb news reports and talk to victims’ friends or family.

Even so, Sarah McBride, a spokeswoman for the Human Rights Campaign, said the rough numbers strongly indicate that violence against transgender people is increasing.

Beverly Tillery, the executive director of the New York City Anti-Violence Project, said that since the 2016 presidential election, her organization had recorded “a spike in incidents of hate violence” — both homicides and other crimes — against transgender people as well as members of the broader gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community.

“There is an increased climate of hate that is, in some cases, being allowed to grow,” Ms. Tillery said.

Advocates say the violence is inseparable from the social climate: that anti-transgender violence and anti-transgender laws — like so-called bathroom bills, which aim to police who may use gender-specific public facilities — are outgrowths of the same prejudice.

Sixteen states have considered bathroom bills this year (though none have passed), and six have considered legislation to invalidate local anti-discrimination protections, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Advocates also point to actions by the Trump administration, including the rescinding of federal protections for transgender students, an effort to bar transgender troops and a Justice Department decision to stop applying workplace discrimination protections to transgender people. Yet the administration did help with the successful prosecution of a man accused of killing Kedarie Johnson, a gender-fluid Iowa teenager.

“The same stigma and the same sort of fear that is trying to be embedded in our society are the driving factors of the extreme forms of violence that are taking place,” said Isa Noyola, deputy director of the Transgender Law Center. “A lot of these cases are happening in regions where there are a lack of protections and there’s a lack of understanding and infrastructure for trans folks to live their daily lives.”

In some sense, experts said, the increased awareness that leads to more acceptance also draws the attention of would-be perpetrators.

“There’s no question that transgender people and the trans community have seen an increase in our profile and in our visibility,” Ms. McBride said. “In many cases, that is a good thing. It results in more hearts and minds opening. It allows for progress legally, socially.” But it may also stir up violent opposition, she said.

Almost all the murder victims in the past several years have been nonwhite women. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the annual murder rate for Americans ages 15 to 34 is about one in 12,000. But an investigation by the news organization Mic found that for black transgender women in the same age group, the rate was one in 2,600.

“We know that when transphobia mixes with misogyny and racism, it can often have fatal consequences,” Ms. McBride said.

Yet Ms. Noyola also said the brutality had brought the community together in a powerful way.

“That resilience and that power and that wisdom,” she said, “is also a part of the story.”

SilverPersian Nov 15th, 2017 08:48 AM

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Melbourne, Australia (CNN)Celebrations broke out across Australia after a two-month national postal survey came out "overwhelmingly" in favor of legalizing same-sex marriage.

Results released Wednesday by the Australian Bureau of Statistics revealed 61% of the population voted to allow same-sex marriage, with 38% voting against.
Rainbow-colored smoke, confetti and cheers erupted in the center of Melbourne following the announcement, where hundreds of people had gathered to hear the result.
When couple Jane Mahoney, 28, and Josie Lennie, 26, heard the result they collapsed into each others' arms in tears. "(Now) we need to save and also gets lots of fun ideas from the other gay weddings," they told CNN.
More than 12.7 million people across the country, or 79.5% of the population, took part in the survey with every state and territory returning a majority "yes."
Celebrations, singing and tears greeted the announcement in Melbourne.
It's the beginning of the end of a long-running campaign to allow marriage equality in Australia, something already legal in the majority of English-speaking countries worldwide.
Speaking after the result, Australia Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said it had been an "overwhelming" response in favor of "yes" and called for same-sex marriage to be legalized before Christmas.
"They voted 'yes' for fairness, they voted 'yes' for commitment, they voted 'yes' for love. And now it is up to us here in the Parliament of Australia to get on with it," he told reporters in Canberra.
Opposition Labor Party leader Bill Shorten told the Melbourne rally the postal vote itself should never have happened.
"I feel for young people who had their relationships questioned in a way I wouldn't have thought we would see ever again, but nevertheless what this marriage equality survey shows is that unconditional love always has the last word," he said.
Politicians are expected to begin discussing the specifics of the same-sex marriage bill as early as this week.
However, even ahead of the release of the results, conservative politicians inside the Australian parliament were preparing for a fight over how marriage equality would be legalized.
Prominent supporters of same-sex marriage celebrated the decision. Qantas CEO Alan Joyce danced on stage in Sydney with author and actor Magda Szubanski, and urged Turnbull to "get on with it."
Australian Olympic champion Ian Thorpe warned conservative politicians against delaying the legislation.
"(The result) spells it out loud and clear ... If they play around with this issue any longer, it will be at their peril," he told reporters Wednesday morning.
Australia's LGBT community was strongly against the idea of a national vote on same-sex marriage from the first time it was announced, fearing a bitter, divisive campaign.
A group of same-sex marriage advocates even took the government to Australia's High Court in an attempt to stave off the survey. Their case was dismissed in an unanimous decision.
The two-month campaign was marred by harsh rhetoric and wild allegations of the consequences of a "yes" vote. Rainbow flags were sprayed with Nazi symbols in Brisbane while "no" advertisements claimed same-sex marriage would lead to "radical gay sex" education in schools.
Speaking after the "yes" result on Wednesday, Jacob Holman, 28, and his husband Damien O'Meara, 29, said they still believed the survey was "wrong."
"We didn't want the vote in the first place but we are so happy to have this win for our friends and the whole community," Holman told CNN.
"The vote has helped to speed up the process but the true lesson here is that the process is wrong." Holman and O'Meara were married in Scotland two years ago.
Australians long in favor of marriage equality
Australians have long been in favor of marriage equality, but multiple governments have maintained they wanted to keep the traditional definition in law.
In 2015, under pressure from moderates in his Liberal party to take action, then-Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced there would be a national vote, or plebiscite, to decide whether marriage equality should be legislated.
He was unable to get funding to hold the plebiscite after legislation was blocked twice in the Australian senate. Abbott's successor, Turnbull, announced in August a national postal vote would be held.
was one way to get around the funding issue, as the survey was run by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, removing the need for parliamentary approval.
Voting opened on September 12 and Australians who had registered to vote had until November 7 to return their surveys.
Australia votes 'yes' to same-sex marriage - CNN

Dalek194 Nov 15th, 2017 09:37 AM

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Not sure if the rules here literally forbid me from talking about this from a tennis standpoint, but I feel compelled to say... take that, Margaret Court :)

Also related;

Lord Choc Ice Nov 15th, 2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverPersian (Post 79746420)

Congrats to Australia! Personally I'd have been in favour of the public vote thing because what would having the government just decide this behind a closed door while being sheltered from what the public actually thought truly accomplish? :)

TIEFSEE Nov 15th, 2017 12:38 PM

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Sinclair Nov 15th, 2017 01:05 PM

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Good for you, Australia! :cheer:

pov Nov 19th, 2017 10:33 PM

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Turkish Authorities Ban all LGBT Events in Ankara

Turkish officials have banned all events by lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex rights groups in Ankara, the country’s capital, the Ankara governor’s office announced Sunday.

The ban took effect Saturday and applies “until further notice” in the Ankara province, according to a governor’s office statement cited by Turkish newspaper Hürriyet.

“Starting from Nov. 18, 2017, considering public sensitivities, any events such as LGBT … cinema, theater performances, panels, interviews and exhibitions are banned until further notice in our province, in order to provide peace and security,” the statement said.

It added that such events may spur animosity from other groups within Turkish society, “posing an open and imminent danger in terms of public safety.”

According to the newspaper, a German gay film festival was banned on Wednesday, one day before it was due to start, over concerns for “public safety and terrorism risks.”

The move is likely to fuel concerns in the country over discrimination faced by LGBT individuals and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan civil rights record.

HuddledSuma Mar 24th, 2018 09:26 AM

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JN Mar 30th, 2018 02:20 AM

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LGBTQ Americans Won't Be Counted in 2020 U.S. Census After All

By Mary Emily O'Hara / Mar.29.2017 / 12:27 AM ET
A same-sex couple holds hands. Spencer Platt / Getty Images

LGBTQ advocacy groups are outraged after proposed questions regarding sexual orientation and gender identity were quickly removed Tuesday from a just-released draft of the 2020 U.S. Census.

The U.S. Census Bureau, which is part of the Department of Commerce, is required to issue a list of categories it plans to track three years before the survey is conducted. Tuesday's list showed categories ranging from race and gender to the type of plumbing in homes and the length of a person's daily commute to work. Each category is followed by a table showing the federal agencies that rely on the data to make decisions about law enforcement, health care, equal employment opportunities and more.

No previous U.S. Census has ever included LGBTQ Americans, which makes it challenging for federal agencies and researchers to accurately track the size, demographics and needs of the community. In addition, the more detailed [url=]American Community Survey also leaves out LGBTQ categories. Tuesday's initial release from the Census Bureau proposed including lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people on both surveys.

Advocacy groups have been campaigning for years to include questions about sexual orientation and gender identity, and were briefly elated when the 2020 Census draft was released. But hopes were dashed when the proposed addition suddenly disappeared, and a statement was issued by the Census bureau that called the LGBTQ inclusion a mistake.

"The Subjects Planned for the 2020 Census and American Community Survey report released today inadvertently listed sexual orientation and gender identity as a proposed topic in the appendix," the U.S. Census Bureau said in a statement to NBC News. "This topic is not being proposed to Congress for the 2020 Census or American Community Survey. The report has been corrected."

The National LGBTQ Task Force published both versions of the 2020 Census plan to its website, showing the removed row in the “Subjects Planned for the 2020 Census and American Community Survey” section.
Illustration: The National LGBTQ Task Force Http://Www.Thetaskforce.Org/Sexual-O...ty-Survey-Acs/

"If the government doesn’t know how many LGBTQ people live in a community, how can it do its job to ensure we’re getting fair and adequate access to the rights, protections and services we need?" Meghan Maury, Criminal and Economic Justice Project Director at the National LGBTQ Task Force, asked in a statement Tuesday.

Maury told NBC News her organization plans to ask Congress for an oversight hearing, demanding answers from the Trump administration about why the category was suddenly removed.

"The National LGBTQ Task Force will continue to push for accurate data collection on LGBTQ people," Maury added. "Whether it's through lobbying for legislation in Congress, pushing the administration to adopt new policies or serving on the U.S. Census Bureau's National Advisory Committee on Racial, Ethnic and Other Populations."

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Silent Bird Mar 30th, 2018 06:30 AM

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What the actual fuck? :mad:

It is a GOOD thing sexual orientation and gender identity are not on the US census.

"Activists" like these are a hazard to gay people.

Punky Apr 4th, 2018 07:48 PM

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one day ppl will go back and look at Homophobic like we look at slave owners in the past.

crazy and disgusting

Silent Bird Apr 5th, 2018 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Punky (Post 80188598)
one day ppl will go back and look at Homophobic like we look at slave owners in the past.

crazy and disgusting

Slavery is much worse than the 'standard' homophobia. Unless we talk about violent homophobic hate crimes that result in killings, lynchings and other physical injuries.

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