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May 3rd, 2019 09:09 PM
CrossCourt~Rally
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

May 3rd, 2019 07:55 PM
Monzanator
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

Good luck in one person bringing the IAAF down in courts Sebastian Coe is no supporter of Semenya and he will fight a bitter war if needed.
May 3rd, 2019 07:08 PM
Kart
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

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Originally Posted by Wojcirej View Post
Lawyers up. Time for real courts, ECHR most likely, Swiss tribunal is useless at this point, unless full award will show some procedural mistakes.
Agreed.

I'm unclear of what the process of challenging a CAS ruling is (if there is one) but it should happen.

The IAAF have clearly got a problem with Semenya and should be held to account for it.

I suspect that, if the forensic spotlight were to be turned onto their underlying motivation, it would be enlightening for everyone.
May 2nd, 2019 09:57 AM
Perun
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

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Yes. Of course. So does higher lung capacity, lower heart rate, higher degree of flexibility, etc.

Would you please read and try to understand things before you weigh in.
So maybe we should have unisex sport events? Than maybe say f*ck you to all actual female athletes in a result. If anything allowing Caster to compete among females is far more discriminatory than not allowing her while her testosterone level is sky-high and her anatomy is also more that of a male. It's a slap in the face for too many, but as always there are some highly triggered people who will defend Semenya's case as much as they wish.
May 2nd, 2019 09:54 AM
Perun
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

A ruling lacking SJW-PC-Free judgement.
May 2nd, 2019 07:33 AM
Silent Bird
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

May 2nd, 2019 03:01 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

I find it funny Martina had to have her statement printed and photographed only to have it posted in instagram. As it'd make it more official
May 1st, 2019 06:58 PM
EkVraNaamEnVan
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

May 1st, 2019 04:47 PM
Wojcirej
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

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Amusing.

So CAS express concern over discriminatory regulations, yet at the same time consider such discrimination justified and proportionate. Imagine trying to say anything like that regarding real world - the hysterics would be endless.

Also, it's amusing to see approval for such regulations in the name of protecting women's sport, while advising Semenya to change distance category, if she wouldn't want to decrease her T levels. As if in different categories there is no need to protect women's sport.

The other thing is how she is forced to take medication to lower her T levels. The whole "raison d'etre" of the anti-doping regime is perched precariously on the notion of "protecting the health" of athletes. How is artificially changing naturally occurring hormonal levels in line with that? Especially in the light of this -> https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-ur...omen-athletes/ And also (if not most importantly) WADA & IOC's religious principle regarding natural physical ability stated in WADA Code and IOC's Olympic Charter.

Lawyers up. Time for real courts, ECHR most likely, Swiss tribunal is useless at this point, unless full award will show some procedural mistakes.
May 1st, 2019 03:04 PM
TERRASTAR18
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

what arbitrary bs.
May 1st, 2019 03:04 PM
wta_zuperfann
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

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from what i remember from my cycling watching times, male competitors were getting suspended for a too high testosterone level

so setting some line for women and sticking to it probably makes sense as well, no?


Those male cyclists were suspended for artificially induced higher levels of testosterone. Scientific proof must be produced by UCI's anti doping enforcement in order to sustain such sanctions.

While I have not read all the posts on this thread, I believe no evidence has been presented to prove Caster Semenya used artificial stimulants as those male cyclists did. On that basis, I suggest that any possible imposition of sanctions against her are without justification.
May 1st, 2019 02:34 PM
Meelis
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

Feb 20th, 2019 10:34 PM
N.M.
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

from what i remember from my cycling watching times, male competitors were getting suspended for a too high testosterone level

so setting some line for women and sticking to it probably makes sense as well, no?
Feb 20th, 2019 10:28 PM
Onslow
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

Science with testosterone is very clear. It's the main reason men and women compete separately.
Feb 14th, 2019 12:56 AM
EkVraNaamEnVan
Re: Caster Semenya and the IAAF - a ruling lacking scientific backing

When is the ruling? We want to budget for Tokyo.

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