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May 16th, 2019 01:18 PM
A131
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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Originally Posted by Sphrontanascier View Post
The system is perfectly fine as it is, the 4 Slams and their countries deserve something for all the efforts and money they put into the sport. Public money from taxes is used to build the new Roland Garros, it's only fair that some French players get a chance to learn or to get a free check.
'it's only fair that some French players get a chance to learn or to get a free check.'[/QUOTE]

Maybe - but not six of them. And I doubt the 4 slams do it for altruistic reasons.
May 16th, 2019 02:28 AM
FERLKE
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

Absolutely embarrassing!
The number of WC should be reduced for sure
May 14th, 2019 11:08 PM
skinnylegend
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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Originally Posted by GrumpyCat View Post
Wow, I am deeply impressed. The standards of excellence expected from an Oz player to be worthy of Rod Laver spot in prime time AO have become very clear now.
1. She's Australian and she notched a pretty big win against Vekic.

2. She was facing Angelique Kerber, the 2nd seed, former World No.1, a 3-time slam winner and a former champion.

If she was facing Danielle Collins there would have been no chance in hell that she would have been on Rod Laver. It was Kerber that got her there, not her. Also, the other women's matches that day that weren't on Rod Laver weren't that potentially interesting either. The only match that maybe might have been more interesting for the day for the Australian crowd was Kvitova against Bencic, but Bencic hadn't been playing all that well for about 3 years at that time and had yet to have that Dubai run that cemented her as a great player again.
May 14th, 2019 06:43 PM
GoDominique
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

Some bad predictions in this thread.
May 4th, 2019 11:01 AM
CharlDa
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Originally Posted by BlueTrees View Post
Seems like you're pressed Genie speaks better French than you do.


Of course do not trust a French guy and then a French Canadian to explain her reality to you.

They are 100% right.
May 4th, 2019 09:40 AM
pesto
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

If native tongue had anything to do with GS WC chances, Genie would be three times better off to have English as her mother tongue.

But it doesn't.
May 4th, 2019 08:36 AM
Sphrontanascier
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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Originally Posted by BlueTrees View Post
Seems like you're pressed Genie speaks better French than you do.
At least I currently play better tennis than she does.
May 4th, 2019 07:39 AM
Boreas
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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Originally Posted by Sphrontanascier View Post
The system is perfectly fine as it is, the 4 Slams and their countries deserve something for all the efforts and money they put into the sport. Public money from taxes is used to build the new Roland Garros, it's only fair that some French players get a chance to learn or to get a free check.
They should be learning in the process of winning the ITFs in Clermont Ferrand or Denain before being granted the opportunity to get a gigantic free check while learning how to lose in round 1 of a Grand Slam.
May 4th, 2019 07:35 AM
BlueTrees
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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Originally Posted by Sphrontanascier View Post
BS.

She said herself she was raised in English and that English was talked at home. She lived in an English speaking neighbourhood of Montreal and her parents might be from Québec and have French names, they were fans of Florida and England and raised their children in English.

She doesn't speak French like a native speaker at all.


Not that it actually matters in this discussion anyway. She never deserved a WC for RG anyway.
Seems like you're pressed Genie speaks better French than you do.
May 4th, 2019 06:50 AM
Sphrontanascier
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

The system is perfectly fine as it is, the 4 Slams and their countries deserve something for all the efforts and money they put into the sport. Public money from taxes is used to build the new Roland Garros, it's only fair that some French players get a chance to learn or to get a free check.
May 4th, 2019 04:29 AM
GrumpyCat
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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All 4 slams should have their WCs reduced to 4 for their own countryman and limit the ranking and/or age it can be used on. They are not charities and should be independent of country influences cause they are slams. It’s not like they need these fellows to keep attendance afloat.
That is not the only issue with consequences for the hosting country too. If you put a WC on Centre Court in a match against opponent that is way out of their league, you publicly embarrass them in front of their whole nation. In many cases, the differences in level are so wide that there is not much they are even learning from that defeat.

I am sure the top tier does not mind the current system cause they get an easy pass for the next level. But it does rob the tiers below of their opportunity to break through.
May 4th, 2019 03:51 AM
Wiggly
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post
All 4 slams should have their WCs reduced to 4 for their own countryman and limit the ranking and/or age it can be used on. They are not charities and should be independent of country influences cause they are slams. It’s not like they need these fellows to keep attendance afloat.

Same goes for doubles and mixed. It’s pathetic mixed have 7-8 wild cards for a 32 player draw. So many scrubs win it cause not enough singles or doubles care about it these days. The worse thing is they are considered Slam champions.
All junior Slam champions should get a MD WC like the tradition Wimbledon has (always?) honored IIRC. The new ITF Tour was created to get rid of players like Lim and Hesse. It doesn't make sense to still give them MD WCs at their age given their limits.

The 7-8 wild cards for the mixed doubles draw are indeed a massive joke.
May 4th, 2019 03:34 AM
coolfish1103 All 4 slams should have their WCs reduced to 4 for their own countryman and limit the ranking and/or age it can be used on. They are not charities and should be independent of country influences cause they are slams. It’s not like they need these fellows to keep attendance afloat.

Same goes for doubles and mixed. It’s pathetic mixed have 7-8 wild cards for a 32 player draw. So many scrubs win it cause not enough singles or doubles care about it these days. The worse thing is they are considered Slam champions.

These Aussie, Brits, French and Americans have so many extra chances to climb compare to others yet they still perform like shit compare to the likes of Czechs, Germans and Russian.
May 4th, 2019 03:17 AM
Wiggly
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

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It was disgusting how they snubbed Genie of a wildcard last year and forced her to play qualifying, when she's not only a former semifinalist, but also a native French speaker.
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Originally Posted by Sphrontanascier View Post
She's not a native French speaker.
Bouchard's family is French Canadian but the four siblings have English as their first language. She once admitted that she learned French at her school (!) in Montreal. Her sister that had a creepy stalker on IG had to speak to the media in English after her testimony because her French isn't good enough.

Their mother make sure to erase anything French Canadian from her kids.
May 3rd, 2019 08:59 PM
njnetswill
Re: The Annual Horrible French Roland Garros WCs Thread!

Don't have any idea why being French speaking should have anything to do with the WC process By that logic a lot of Swiss and Belgian players should be contenders for WCs, much more so than Genie Bouchard
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