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Lets Play the "Toughest" Slam Game

There is always some back and forth about how tough or easy a slam was to win based on the draw. With that in mind lets play a game and see who had the toughest road to victory based on who they beat along the way.


The rules

Points awarded for each woman beat along the way to a title.

Points based as follows

1 point for beating a Grand slam finalist (and the lowest point score possible)
2 points for beating someone with 1 Grand Slam.
3 points for beating someone with 2 Grand Slams.
4 points for beating someone with 3 Grand Slams.
5 points for beating someone with 4 Grand Slams.
6 points for beating someone with 5 Grand Slams.
7 points for beating someone with 6 Grand Slams.
8 points for beating someone with 7 Grand Slams.
9 points for beating someone with 8 Grand Slams.
10 points for beating someone with 9 Grand Slams.

Please feel free to contribute-we will keep going til we get them all. Please limit contributions to one a day please-and feel free to discuss!

I will post results in post #2.


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Re: Lets Play the "Toughest" Slam Game

Results

2015 Wimbledon
2010 French
2005 Aussie

1999 Aussie, French, US
1998 Aussie, French
1997 Aussie, Wimbledon, US
1992 French, US
1990 US
1989 Wimbledon

1985 French, US Open

1983 French-Wimbledon
1981 Aussie
1980 Wimbledon

1979 Aussie, US Open
1975 US Open
1973 US Open
1971 Wimbledon

1969 Wimbledon
1968 US Open

35 points---Steffi Graf-1989 Wimbledon (4 wins over eventual GS champs. ASV, Evert, and Navratilova.Seles had not yet won a major. Lost 1 set in final)
27 points---Serena Williams (Beat 4 women already GS winners, and Clijsters, an eventual GS winner. Lost 4 sets. Down 3-5 to Clijsters in the 3R)
24 points---Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (Lost 3 sets, including a 6-0 set in final. 2 points from defeat twice, down 5-2 and 5-4vs S Williams in the 4R)

23 points-Hana Mandlikova-1985 US Open (last 5 rounds won over GS finalists or winners. Lost sets to Jordan. to Evert, to Navratilova-won last set of final 7-6)
23 points---Tracy Austin-1979 US Open(2 wins over GS winners plus 3 finalists. 2 points from defeat by Kathy Jordan in the 4R)
23 points---Evonne Goolagong-1971 Wimbledon (3 wins over GS champs includes #1 and #2 seeds. Lost set to Hunt in the 4R)
23 points---Ann Jones-1969 Wimbledon (3 wins over GS champs includes #1 and #2 seeds. Lost 2 sets, once each in semi and final)

22 points---Margaret Court 1973 US Open (3 wins over eventual GS Champs. She lost sets in both the SF and final)
22 points---Chris Evert, 1985 French (3 wins over eventual GS champs. Dropped 1 set and 5 points from defeat in the final.)

20 points---Steffi Graf-1999 French (lost 3 sets on way to title in last 3 rounds. 6 of 7 victories over women who made QF in GS. 3 points from defeat)
20 points---Martina Navratilova 1981 Aussie (2 wins over slam champions. Lost 2 sets, including 1 in final to Chris Evert.)
20 points---Evonne Goolagong -1980 Wimbledon. Lost 3 sets, including a 6-0 middle set to Austin in the SF,winning final set 6-4)
20 points---Chris Evert-1975 US Open (Lost 1 set along the way, in the finals to Evonne Goolagong)

18 points---Serena Williams-2015 Wimbledon. (2 points from defeat vs Watson in 3R. Lost 2 sets.)

17 points---Martina Hingis-1999 Aussie (Lost 1 set)
17 points---Martina Hingis-1997 US Open (No sets lost. 27 games in 7 matches for average of under 4 games per match)
17 points---Chris Evert-1983 French (3 wins over GS Champs. She dropped 2 sets on the way to the title.)

16 points---Serena Williams-2005 Aussie (3 wins over GS champs. Lost 3 sets. Saved 3 match points vs Sharapova in SF winning last set 8-6)
16 points---Monica Seles-1992 French (3 wins over eventual GS champs. Lost 3 sets-to Kijimuta in 4R, Sabatini in SF, and Graf winning last set 10-8)
16 points---Virginia Wade-1968 US Open. (2 wins over GS Champs. Dropped 1 in the 1R).

13 points---Gabriela Sabatini-1990 US (Final win over Graf. Beat 3 eventual GS finalists as well. Lost 1 set to Fernandez in SF)

07 points---Francesca Schiavone-2010 French. (4 wins over finalists or eventual GS winners. LOst 1 set to Kulikova in 1R-last set 6-4)
07 points---Barbara Jordon-1979 Aussie. (Lost 1 set in 5 matches. Run included win over eventual GS champ Mandlikova)

06 points---Martina Hingis-1998 Aussie. (Lost 2 sets)
06 points---Monica Seles-1992 US Open ( No sets lost. 27 games total lost between the 7 matches, for an average of just under 4 per match.)

04 points---Martina Hingis-1997 Aussie. (No sets lost)

03 points---Martina Navratilova-1983 Wimbledon (No sets lost-26 games in 7 matches- average of under 4 games per match. Closest set 7-6)

02 points---Martina Hingis-1997 Wimbledon (d eventual GS winner Novotna in final. Lost 1 set in the final)

01 point----Marion Bartoli-2013 Wimbledon (No sets lost. Top seeds all fall to other players).
01 point----Chris O'Neil-1978 Aussie. (No sets lost in five matches. Beat no one of note.)


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To kick things off I'll start with Serena's win today.

1R: d. Margarita Gasparyan 6-4 6-1
2R: d. Babos 6-4 6-1
3R: d. Watson 6-2 4-6 7-5
4R: d. V Williams [16] 6-4 6-3 (8 points)
QF: d. Azarenka [23] 3-6 6-2 6-3 (3 points)
SF: d. Sharapova [4] 6-2 6-4 (6 points)
FI: d. Muguruza 6-4 6-4 (1 point)

18 points (and 3 slam champions in all). 2 points from defeat vs Watson in the 3R.


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17 points---Steffi Graf-1999 French Open (If I count well...)

R128 Magdalena Maleeva (BUL) 6-2 6-0
R64 Ines Gorrochategui (ARG) 6-2 6-4
R32 Asa Svensson (SWE) 6-1 6-4
R16 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-3 7-6 (4)
Q [2] Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-1 6-7 (5) 6-3 (1 point - one Slam final back then.)
S [3] Monica Seles (USA) 6-7 (2) 6-3 6-4 (10 points - 9 Slams)
F [1] Martina Hingis (SUI) 4-6 7-5 6-2 (6 points - 5 Slams)
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Graf, Wimbledon 1989

Beat Navratilova (+10), Evert (+10), ASV (+2).
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17 points---Steffi Graf-1999 French Open (If I count well...)

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Q [2] Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-1 6-7 (5) 6-3 (1 point - one Slam final back then.)
Davenport was 1998 USO champion.
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Great to see responses....actually I was going to count them if they EVER won slams-past or future.

so Graf at Wimbledon 1989 would look like

4R: d. Seles 6-0 6-1 (10 points)
QF: d. Sanchez 7-5 6-1 (5 points)
SF: d. Evert 6-2 6-1 (10 points)
FI: d. Navratilova 6-2 6-7 6-1 (10 points) for 35 points


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Hana Mandlikova, 1985 USO

Beat Navratilova (+10), Evert (+10), Kathy Jordan (+1), Hanika (+1), Sukova (+1)
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Mrs A (or anyone else)-do you remember how close Steffi was to defeat vs Hingis in the final?


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3 points from defeat

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On the road to the 1983 French Open final, Chris Evert picks up only 17 points, but it is an impressive range even without Martina Navratilova (shame):

Cawley (8), Sukova (1), Mandlikova (5), Jaegar (1), Jausovec (2)

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Davenport was 1998 USO champion.
OH, damn me, why did I think she lost in in the final.

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Bonus points for coming back from match-point-down during the road to the title?
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My today's pick: 1973, USO, Margaret Court, 22 points
Wade (4), Evert (10), Goolagong (8)
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I'll go one better: 1979 US Open, Tracy Austin, 23 points
Andrea Jaegar (1), Kathy Jordan (1), Sylvia Hanika (1), Martina Navratilova (10), Chris Evert (10)

* To get to the final against the brattish one, Evert beat Evonne Cawley and BJK in straight sets for the loss of only eight games!
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Evert, 1985 French Open

Beat Navratilova (+10), Graf (+10), Sabatini (+2).
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