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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Jun 2nd, 2003, 02:56 PM Thread Starter
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Jen's 4th round loss

Did everyone get a chance to see Jen's match against Nadia. I think Jen played well and that's the interesting part to me. Normally, she would win that match at that level, but Nadia played like a top 5 player. She has enormous power.

I think Jen will rebound well from this loss, but I think that this also sends a message that she has to do more than play well to start winning tournaments again. I know Jen is stubborn, but I think she would be smart to get a new coach, or at least work with someone else. It could do her a world of good to get a fresh outlook to reinvigorate her game.
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She just has to do something with her serve. If she could get more free points off of that it will help her tremendously...

The turn around is coming, and hopefully it'll be soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come back EVENTUALLY Cappy!! Ok this clearly was written back in a day when I still had faith..


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i no what u mean mase i watched the match and if she just nailed her serve she could have easily taken petrova to a closer match at least.she could have won
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yes,she needs more help from her serve.she is strong ohisically but she runs so much to do a point and at teh end she loses easy points 'cos she gets tired.anyway i think this loss in part is good 'cos it's the first time in three year she has so much time to prepare wimbledon and i'm really happy she plays in eastbourne.she needs to play a tournment before london.this is she'll go there more relaxed and I hope with more matches on the grass.
about he match of yesterday i think the most disappointing thing to me is that she played well but lost...and the reason is always the same:her concentration in the close matches.she leaded 2-0 in the third,then she played three bad games.On 2-1 and on her serve she began with a double fault and a stupid error on the net.and I read her interview:she said that was her mistake:at that point,on 2-o,she tought petrova was going to do many errors but it was not so and jen got relaxed and lost...that's it:she loses too often concentration int eh moment in which she has to end the match.petrova or not,the loss was a jen's fault.because to me Jen can and must beat everyone.
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Petrova played brillant and smart tennis! But i really think she needs to do 2 things (1) get a new coach, Stefano is great but does she listen to him enough anymore? (2) Try somthing different with the serve, and just get it sorted!
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My 2c

It is puzzling - at first seems Jennifer played extrimely well, and as result she lost. One can say Petrova played really well as well, but this is not good enough, Petrova is not even top player, and Jen should have that match. So now we going back to "school" to look for the reason(s).

Here is what I think. Yes, Jennifer needs to correct in a hurry her serve! Yes, she needs to get new coach, and it better be best one! (I wrote about need of the new coach last winter!!!!) To papa, yes, you can travel with Jen, but let somebody else to work with your girl.
Most of all, I think Jen is a little bit behind in her mental game. These days you can NOT play every match and adjust your level to the level of your opponent. And it is what Jen does every time! She needs to start playing her game, and start kicking most girls with 6-1, 6-0 victories, and play top dogs on her level, instead of giving them chance to dictate. Jennifer should stop just simply returning ball back, and start setup her points! This is not good enough just to bring balls back, your opponent will take advantage of that. Even Petrova made Jen run and chase balls, and had so many winners on the lines just because Jen would bring ball back right to the middle of the court!
Does anyone in Jennifer's gang is talking about mental state? Is anyone working with Jen on that??? Can anybody tell Jen that she is loosing all these matches just because she can not hold her serve?

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Goshka as always telling it like it is!
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I perfectly agree with u.totally.
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I agree

I agree with you Goshka. You re right.

I think Petrova played very well. This is the best she played so far. Jennifer had to run lot in the match - from side to side. And it s difficult to play aggressively when you are under pressure. Jennifer s movement on court is fantastic, but i absolutly agree that she hit many balls to the center of the court and Petrova had no problems to hit the ball down the line and make winners. Jennifer is in great shape but everytime she loses a match like this one - three sets and very close battle.

I hope she knows where is the problem and she will do something with it. I am sure of it. She wants to win. She can still play some nice tennis.
Go Jen!

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Too much on the defensive, not moving into the court enough. It's the same old story folks.
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i agree with all the above and I know people want to do well at the slams but shes always talking about peaking at the slams and yesterday er theorie went out the window
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I agree. As a Jen fan I was really disappointed with the result obviously, but even more so because I thought she played almost as well as she could within her gameplan. (And also because I feel that clay is the best surface for her to win on- she would have lost a lot quicker on a faster court yesterday).

From what I can see her game is basically: Consistent groundstrokes hit hard and deep but usually up the middle of the court; Fantastic speed around the court and great defensive shotmaking; Almost no approaches to the net; No free points from the serve.

It seems to me that she can win with this against players who have less power to their shots than her or against an equally powerful player who is making a lot of errors. But when someone like Petrova hits hard, goes for winners and nails them, then Jen is going to come out of it the loser. (Same for recent losses to Lindsay, Serena, Amelie etc.)

I personally think that she is never going to improve her serve significantly so the best plan would be for her to just start taking more risks- more approaches to net, more angles, more going for the lines and taking a swing at second serves etc.

But I guess she's not going to listen to any of our advice though?!
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Someone mentioned that they had read Jen's interview after Nadia match but I can't see it on the Roland Garros site. Does anyone know where to find it? Thanks.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old Jun 3rd, 2003, 06:44 PM
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I actually think clay is her worse surface, which makes her 2001 french win that more amazing. I think US Hard courts are her best surface because how hard she hits her shots. If that match against Nadia was contended on hard courts, Jen would have ended those rallys early on and won that match. I also think grass is suited well for her style of play.

Having said that, I do think she should seek out some outside assistance on her serve. It has improved, but I think a different perspective would do wonders. I also think she needs to follow those huge groundies of hers into the net and finish those points off.

I still believe Jen has one great run left in her and think we will see the beginning of that run this year during the hardcourt season leading into the US Open.
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