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Yes Andrea is a lesbian. I have friends who are in the 'Aspen' gals circle. They have confirmed it... Andrea sometimes hangs out with that circle.
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She should rather have hang in there and win a Grand Slam
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Steffi didn't consider him as a bf anyway otherwise she had remembered him in 99.
Who did Steffi remember Irma? Mronz?


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No. She didn't remember Irma.
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Who did Steffi remember Irma? Mronz?
no she did not remember him
well maybe she did remember him, but not as bf obvious
she claimed to have 2 bf's pre andre
the photographer which name she didn't want to give (but as said. we knew it anyway. he made the barilla pics in 91 by example. ) and michael b of course.

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I know for a fact that Rennae's had a boyfriend. Got a letter in black and white where she's wrote about him. But of course you could say that she wrote that to throw me off the scent, didn't want me to believe she was going out with Graf. Basically, at the end of the day you can twist and turn whatever you want to fit into whatever you want to believe.

If I had a penny for everytime I've been asked about Rennae's gold ring I'd be a rich woman. People believe she was married to Raymond. When I've shown pictures of her wearing the same ring in the early 1990's, I then get asked if she was married to Graf. Either way she can't win!
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Many people may have one lesbian or gay relationship in their otherwise heterosexual lives. This relationship may be due to a special chemistry with one person, simple curiosity or be a step in their personal evolution. For women much more than men, there can be a political/feminist element to lesbianism, too. I had a heterosexual relationship after I came out but was and am gay - not even a "butch" gay: no ambiguity at all!

I think it is quite possible that many women and men on the tours could have had, at some point, a homosexual experience but IMO that does not make them gay or lesbian, and we should not fall into the trap of thinking that it does.

In our labels-crazy world, a totally unethical and inhuman capitalist press feeds a naturally curious public who would rather sublimate feelings and desires into fantasy than live them and thereby face the social, cultural and religious backlash. Any sniff of scandal or unconventionality is going to bring the journalists out like a pack of wolves, ready to slap their labels on the rich or successful (even if they are teenage athletes).

I can't imagine how hard it must be for these people to live their loves like the rest of us, especially those who are gay or lesbian or who have a gay/lesbian relationship for whatever reason. I just wish (dreamy old idealistc bitch that I am) that the press would leave them alone and the the world was a more tolerant place where, if they chose to, they could live these relationships openly.

Sorry for the rant. It's not directed at any of the people/posts here. Noone here's condemning or judging any player's sexuality and, as I said before, wondering if someone is gay or not is, perfectly natural, it seems to me. It just really upsets me to read your reports of what the press has said about this player or that player.


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I think the Stubbs example might be perfect to illustrate the "traps" people can fall into.

Trap A-People think she's a lesbian because of ..but she is straight.

1. Her doubles partners is a lesbian [ask Pam Shriver about this!]
I actually remember reading a bit in The Sun which is a British tabloid, about 2/3 years ago and it was about what Pat Cash or someone said about lesbians on the tour. Pam was asked to respond and she did and then it said something like 'Shriver, 36, herself a lesbian, was the doubles partner of Martina Navratilova' I was like she did not mention that when she was talking about boyfriends in Passing Shots! Of course it was not true, but it was just kinda assumed by some people and the tabloids.


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I actually remember reading a bit in The Sun which is a British tabloid, about 2/3 years ago and it was about what Pat Cash or someone said about lesbians on the tour. Pam was asked to respond and she did and then it said something like 'Shriver, 36, herself a lesbian, was the doubles partner of Martina Navratilova' I was like she did not mention that when she was talking about boyfriends in Passing Shots! Of course it was not true, but it was just kinda assumed by some people and the tabloids.

Pat Cash has lovely feet...

i know it doesnt have anything to do with youre talking about...just thought i'd throw it in there
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Pat Cash has lovely feet...

i know it doesnt have anything to do with youre talking about...just thought i'd throw it in there
Don't tell me you're a gold toe o phile, Darren, it's going to ruin my entire fantasy about you!

I have to tell you a funny story about Pat Cash. I was living in San Francisco in 1987, and my roommate (whose flat I was living in) wasn't a tennis fan by any stretch, but had a couple of friends over just because someone told him to turn on Wimbledon and look at Pat Cash. As soon as he got his first look at Pat's gams, he jumped up out of his chair, lunging for the TV set, tripped on the carpet, and chipped his tooth on a glass-topped coffee table. For years afterward, he'd tell people that was his Pat Cash tooth, and recount the whole story.

And now you know!

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Yeah, screw the feet - Pat's legs were the best in the business.
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Screw the feet? That sounds painful.

Thank heck I'm hitched to old man Lazenby-babe, otherwise I'd have a helluva lot of explaining to do in this thread.

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You only marry men who are dying or ready for dropping dead Pammy, so perhaps it's a cover up to hide your secret life. Even married women have stories to tell
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You only marry men who are dying or ready for dropping dead Pammy, so perhaps it's a cover up to hide your secret life. Even married women have stories to tell
Damn, was it that obvious? I'll aim for someone under 86 next time.
I've got lots of stories to tell Stubbsy.....its just no one ever wants to hear my vast vowels.

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tathiana garbin is lesbian for sure

..and patty schnider is AT MEAN bisex
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