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The Forehand Volley

While this is the shot that breaks down for me most often up there (I acutally hit the low, shoelace forehand volleys better than the sitters, which I often overhit), I've noticed that, from watching videos of past greats, it's difficult to come up with a clear, definitive model to watch hit this stroke. Graf had a pretty good forehand volley, but she was at the net so seldom, that you can't really count her. Which players of the past do you think had pretty solid forehand volleys?
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The first two images that came to mind concerning 'forehand volley's' were Martina Navratilova slapping two crucial forehand volleys into the net in her loss to Tracy Austin in the 1981 US Open final and Jana Novotna sending that easy sitter about 10 feet past the baseline, up 4-1 against Graf in the 3rd set of their 1993 Wimbledon thriller. Then I thought...it must be Martina, since she was the greatest serve/volleyer ever. But I can only picture those excruciating Austin match slaps in my mind!
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The first two images that came to mind concerning 'forehand volley's' were Martina Navratilova slapping two crucial forehand volleys into the net in her loss to Tracy Austin in the 1981 US Open final and Jana Novotna sending that easy sitter about 10 feet past the baseline, up 4-1 against Graf in the 3rd set of their 1993 Wimbledon thriller. Then I thought...it must be Martina, since she was the greatest serve/volleyer ever. But I can only picture those excruciating Austin match slaps in my mind!
It's definitely not as easy a shot as it looks like- so much more can go wrong on the forehand side (elbow breaks, wrist breaks, hitting the ball behind you, dropping the racquet face) than the backhand side, which is an abbreviated chip across the front of your body and you do go high to low without much that can go wrong. I actually HATE hitting an easy sitter forehand volley because there is so little to do- just punch, and I can't tell you how my heart sank (this from a Graf fan) when Jana hit that one forehand volley in 93!
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I remember a World Tennis poll once in the 80's that awarded Best Serve, Best ...

I can't remember the year or who got everything, but here's what I do remember:
Best Forehand - not sure, don't remember if Steffi was playing yet
Best Backhand - Evert, (one-handed - Lindqvist)
Best Serve - Navratilova (honorable mention - Shriver, Sukova)
Best Lob - Evert (honorable mention - Rinaldi)
Best volley - Navratilova/Shriver (one got forehand, one backhand, don't remember which)
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Lindquist? Really? You think they would throw in Hana or Gaby for the backhand.

I think Navratilova probably had the best forehand volley, besides that late summer day in 1981. It doesn't seem like anyone had a preference when attempting passing shots against her and she covered the net like nobody's business. Did Hana have a grear forehand volley?

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Lindquist? Really? You think they would trow in Hana or Gaby fort eh backhand.

I think Navratilova probably had the best forehand volley, besides that late summer day in 1981. It doesn't seem like anyone had a preference when attempting passing shots against her and she covered the net like nobody's business. Did Hana have a grear forehand volley?

In 1985, Tennis Magazine rated Hana's forehand volley tops. It was solid, but I always liked her backhand volley better. But, of course, no one could touch Martina's backhand volley except maybe BJK.

I think preacherfan maybe referring to World Tennis' 1987 shot rankings. I believe that was the year that they ranked Shriver's forehand volley the best. It didn't look to pretty and there could be an awful lot of swing on it, but Pammie did have a powerful forehand volley and that was her better side IMO.

Steffi's forehand volley is probably underated. Its not a bad shot at all.

That brings to my mind Sukova's forehand volley which was a very powerful shot.

Gaby's forehand volley was better than her backhand volley too. She cut under the backhand volley too much but seemed to have no problems with the other side.

And I'm just adoring Goolagong's volleys more and more.
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...And I'm just adoring Goolagong's volleys more and more.
Careful HanaFanGA, the more you watch video of the "sweet aboriginal wonder", the less you seem to care for reality TV...
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I remember Evonne's backhand volley was about as good as it get's. Was her forehand volley tops as well? It seems the word on Evonne (besides the walkabout's) was that her forehand was a weakness, but in the 1975 US finals vs. Evert, she seemed to be driving the ball on that side quite well. She hit top, flat, underspin and even sidespin!
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I remember Evonne's backhand volley was about as good as it get's. Was her forehand volley tops as well? It seems the word on Evonne (besides the walkabout's) was that her forehand was a weakness, but in the 1975 US finals vs. Evert, she seemed to be driving the ball on that side quite well. She hit top, flat, underspin and even sidespin!
The 1974 U.S. Open final featured Billie Jean King and Evonne Goolagong at their best- and the really humorous thing about that classic match, is that both players essentially had the same weakness to pick on- the forehand. Weakness is a relative word, however, because out of the 3 sets they played, there are only a mere handfull of forehand errors by either player, and Billie Jean actually hit a forehand cross-court dipping topspin passing shot in the third set that is one of the best forehands EVER in my (challenged forehand) opinion!
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LOL at all the forehand nightmares! It's my worst shot as well.
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I remember Evonne's backhand volley was about as good as it get's. Was her forehand volley tops as well? It seems the word on Evonne (besides the walkabout's) was that her forehand was a weakness, but in the 1975 US finals vs. Evert, she seemed to be driving the ball on that side quite well. She hit top, flat, underspin and even sidespin!

I think alfa's right about "weakness" being a relative term. I had always heard that Evonne's weakness was the forehand too. But I'm not sure it was as much an actual weakness as simply her weaker side. Maybe some Goolagonganatics could help us with this.
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Careful HanaFanGA, the more you watch video of the "sweet aboriginal wonder", the less you seem to care for reality TV...

Oh I know what you mean alfa! Evonne is an absolute dream and I love watching her stroke production. She's so pleasant to watch not only for her shots but also for her demeanor. She may be playing on Center Court but from her actions, she might as well be at the YMCA. I had read about her once that she got such satisfaction out of simply stroking the ball - maybe even more than winning. There's something refreshing about that.
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I was thinking about this thread last night. And, again to borrow a note from alfa, its odd that we haven't mentioned Martina's forehand volley as one of the best. I think it has to be one of the very best ever yet she's rarely praised for it. I know she could get a little chokey especially on high ones but I haven't seen a serve and volley player that hasn't done that at some point or another.

I think though Hana's forehand volley is textbook perfect, but I think Martina's was more powerful and placed just as well. She was so good at playing forehand volleys off of her hip. While its the "weaker" of her two volleys, I think her forehand volley is underated.
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...Maybe some Goolagonganatics could help us with this.
As she's still going strong in her native country with transplanted South Carolina children living what appears to be a wonderful life, I prefer the moniker "Cawleysider" personally!
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As she's still going strong in her native country with transplanted South Carolina children living what appears to be a wonderful life, I prefer the moniker "Cawleysider" personally!
Just as long as you're not an Evonnaphobe, I guess that's okay!
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