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The obatafan SUE BARKER dedication thread!!

This is a thread for the fantastic Sue Barker! Sue was one of the great British tennis players of her generation, winning the French Open singles title She has also reached numerous other semi finals at grand slam level.

Sue is now delighting her dedicated fans all over the world with her extensive media career, presenting popular British game shows such as "A question of Sport" and "Grandstand" for the BBC. Brits anually enjoy Sue's presenting skills for two whole weeks during the All England Championships, where her relationship with previous pro's such as Boris Becker has blossomed.

Lets all talk about Sue
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Here she is showing off her modelling skills and charming smile for the All England Club - Advertising their classic eye-wear collection - An essential Item for those Sunny British Summers.

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Hehe, i feel truly honoured to be associated with such an excellent Sue thread Sue was IMO the best British player we have had in a long time, and if it had not been for some awful injuries she could have won multiple slams. Personally, she puts dear Ginny Wade and the rest in the shade. My only regret is that i wasn't around to see her play, and have had to watch her matches on tapes and highlights, which never beats the real, sweaty, live action. But allez Sue anyway

Not only that, but she is such a glamourous celeb today! How anyone can look that good at 48 needs to be applauded. Always love to see her doing Wimbledon, and lets face it, nobody does Wimbledon like Sue.

A picture of Sue in action, on the hallowed turf


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Saori Obata

Born : April 23rd 1978
Age: 28
Residence: Tokyo, Japan
Height: 5' 5" (1.65m)
Weight: 132 lbs. (60 kg)
Plays: Left handed
Career Prize Money: $652,031
Highest Singles Ranking: 39 (Feb 9th 04')

ITF Titles: Augusta (2005), Gifu (2005), Fukuoka (2003), Port Pirie (2001), Jakarta (1996).
WTA:
Finalist (1): 2003 - Tashkent.
Semifinalist (1): 2003 - Bali.
Quarterfinalist (6): 2004 - Birmingham; 2003 - Memphis, Pattaya City; 2002 - Bali; 2001 - Tokyo [Japan Open]; 2000 - Shanghai.

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A BBC Article by Sue on her French Open 76' win

BARKER RECALLS HER GOLDEN MOMENT

I was really excited about the French Open in 1976 because I knew I had a really good chance of lifting the trophy.

Chris Evert was the number one clay-court player at the time but she wasn't playing, and I felt confident that I could beat everyone else.



BARKER'S GRAND SLAM BEST

Aus Open: Semi-finals 1977
French Open: Winner 1976
Wimbledon: Semi-finals 1977
US Open: 4th round 1976

I was the world number four and I had been in good form leading up to the tournament, winning three titles on clay, including the German Open.

Clay was definitely my best surface, along with cement, but I never felt comfortable on grass - it just didn't suit my game.

And I always enjoyed playing at Roland Garros, especially on Court Centrale.

It is quite gladiatorial.

The stands at Wimbledon's Centre Court sweep upwards, but on Court Centrale they bank very steeply so it can be very intimidating, especially with the French crowd.

They can be quite demanding, but I never really noticed it when I was playing - and in 1976 I was lucky because I didn't face any French players.

I had one really tricky match in '76, winning 8-6 in the third set against Regina Marsikova, and that was the point at which I really started to think about winning the whole thing.

On the morning of the final, I was absolutely terrified.

I went down to breakfast and I couldn't eat, so I went to practise and I just couldn't get a ball in court.

HOW SHE WON IT
R1 N Gregory 6-3 6-3
R2 C Perea 7-5 7-6
R3 M Simionescu 7-5 2-6 6-1
QF R Marsikova 4-6 6-2 8-6
SF V Ruzici 6-3 1-6 6-2
F R Tomanova 6-2 0-6 6-2

I suppose it must be true that if you have a bad practice, you'll probably have a good match!

I beat Renata Tomanova in the final, but my celebrations weren't exactly over the top - I remember walking off thinking 'great, that's the first one down'.

I had only just turned 20 and I just always felt that I would win Grand Slams - it was just a case of when - so when I won the French Open, it was more a sense of relief.

Had I known that I would never win another one, I probably would have gone out and painted Paris red!

As it was, I did my press conference, had some champagne with some of the British journalists and then flew home to see my Mum and Dad - not very glamorous!

But it was a big story in the press and I did all sorts of television chat shows and news programmes afterwards.

I'm still incredibly proud of what I achieved.

My only slight regret is that I would have liked to have beaten Chris Evert on the way to the trophy - but like they always say, you can only beat what's put in front of you.


Sue showing why she deserving her legions of fans

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Saori Obata

Born : April 23rd 1978
Age: 28
Residence: Tokyo, Japan
Height: 5' 5" (1.65m)
Weight: 132 lbs. (60 kg)
Plays: Left handed
Career Prize Money: $652,031
Highest Singles Ranking: 39 (Feb 9th 04')

ITF Titles: Augusta (2005), Gifu (2005), Fukuoka (2003), Port Pirie (2001), Jakarta (1996).
WTA:
Finalist (1): 2003 - Tashkent.
Semifinalist (1): 2003 - Bali.
Quarterfinalist (6): 2004 - Birmingham; 2003 - Memphis, Pattaya City; 2002 - Bali; 2001 - Tokyo [Japan Open]; 2000 - Shanghai.
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http://www.chavscum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=329


Here is a link from another message board, no doubt full of Sue fans, discussing her off court possibility's.

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OMG, that is quite....unusual.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/39..._barker_vi.ram

That is a link for an interview with Sue about her career

I am loving this thread already

Has anyone seen her match with Betty Stove in 1977 Wimbledon? Its an entertaining match, if tinged with sadness. Poor Sue blew it, and she was favourite to win her semi and the tournament, on her least favourite surface.

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Saori Obata

Born : April 23rd 1978
Age: 28
Residence: Tokyo, Japan
Height: 5' 5" (1.65m)
Weight: 132 lbs. (60 kg)
Plays: Left handed
Career Prize Money: $652,031
Highest Singles Ranking: 39 (Feb 9th 04')

ITF Titles: Augusta (2005), Gifu (2005), Fukuoka (2003), Port Pirie (2001), Jakarta (1996).
WTA:
Finalist (1): 2003 - Tashkent.
Semifinalist (1): 2003 - Bali.
Quarterfinalist (6): 2004 - Birmingham; 2003 - Memphis, Pattaya City; 2002 - Bali; 2001 - Tokyo [Japan Open]; 2000 - Shanghai.
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Yes this thread has really kicked off Graham Lets hope we get some more Sue fanatics like ourselves posting in here to indulge in conversation about her true greatness

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Great thread. I wish we in the states could see more of Barker's wonderful tv commentary as I always enjoy her witty/classy player presentations during the Wimby trophy ceremony..regarding tennis, I particularly recall Sue's match against Martina at Wimby in '76 quarterfinals..though I think she lost 7-5 in the third that year (?)...anybody know her full results from her semi-final run there in '77?
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I could tell you a thing or two about Sue. I really could. Such as that time we went shopping in the West End and she stuck a tube of lipstick in her pocket and left without paying...

If this is meant to be funny it's far off the mark.
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Sue's main career titles:

1974
Surbiton UK: Surrey GC Barker beat Sue Mappin (GBR) 62 75
Bastad SWE: Swedish Open: Barker beat Marijke Jansen-Schaar (NTH) 61 75
Hobart AUS: Tasmanian Open: Barker beat Chris Matison (AUS) 64 62


1975


Bastad SWE: Swedish Open: Barker bt Helga Niessen-Masthoff (GER) 64 60
Kitzbuhel AUT: Austrian Open: Barker beat Pam Teeguarden (USA) 64 64
Auckland NZL: Auckland B&H Open: Barker & Helga Niessen-Masthoff (GER) 65 title divided
Adelaide AUS: South Australian Open: Barker beat Helga Niessen-Masthoff (GER) 62 61

1976
Hamburg GER: German Open: Barker beat Renata Tomanova (CZE) 63 61
Paris FRA: FRENCH OPEN: Barker beat Renata Tomanova (CZE) 62 06 62
Torquay UK: Torquay Palace Indoors: Barker beat Michelle Tyler (GBR) 64 62

1977
San Francisco CA: Oakland VS: Barker beat Virginia Wade (GBR) 63 64
Dallas TX: Dallas VS: Barker beat Terry Holladay (USA) 61 76 (5-4)

1978
Brisbane AUS: Queensland Open: Barker beat Chris O'Neil (AUS) 61 63

1979
Manchester UK: Manchester Northern Tournament: Barker beat Anne Hobbs (GBR) 75 46 60
Pittsburgh PA: Pittsburgh Tennis Open: Barker beat Renée Richards (USA) 63 61
Sydney AUS: Sydney Building Soc NSW Tournament: Barker beat Ros Fairbank (RSA) 60 75

1980
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1981
Brighton UK: Daihatsu Challenge: Barker beat Mima Jausovec (YUG) 46 61 61

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Great thread. I wish we in the states could see more of Barker's wonderful tv commentary as I always enjoy her witty/classy player presentations during the Wimby trophy ceremony..regarding tennis, I particularly recall Sue's match against Martina at Wimby in '76 quarterfinals..though I think she lost 7-5 in the third that year (?)...anybody know her full results from her semi-final run there in '77?
Check out the Grand Slam Results section. All detailed there.
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This is a thread for the fantastic Sue Barker! Sue was one of the great British tennis players of her generation, winning the French Open singles title She has also reached numerous other semi finals at grand slam level.

Sue is now delighting her dedicated fans all over the world with her extensive media career, presenting popular British game shows such as "A question of Sport" and "Grandstand" for the BBC. Brits anually enjoy Sue's presenting skills for two whole weeks during the All England Championships, where her relationship with previous pro's such as Boris Becker has blossomed.

Lets all talk about Sue

As someone who was a Sue Barker supporter back in the 70s I think we need to put her achievements into perspective. No question at one stage she threatened to go right to the very top and in retrospect her semi-final defeat at Wimbledon was probably the turning point followed by her early defeat at the USO by a rising Tracy Austin, although in retrospect that was probably not as bad as it seemed at the time.

Going into Wimbledon in 1977 she might possibly have been the second best player at that time to Chris Evert. She had had an extremely successful Slims tour early in the season taking Evert to 3 sets when they met. I believe the order the semis were played had a big impact on the results. Nine times out of ten Sue would have beaten Betty, although we have to remember Betty had a great win over Navratilova in the quarters but with Virginia having beaten Chris and Sue having beaten Virginia a couple of times earlier in the season she really must have seen the Trophy in her grasp and this plus the added pressure from the crowd were just too much for her. I do think she should have won that year (Declan will disagree!) but perhaps fate meant it to be Virginia's year. I was devasted by her semi defeat and even though there was another Brit in the final had no interest in it!

She slumped badly in 1978 to outside the top 20 and manged to climb back to #10 in 1979 and remain in the top 20 for a couple of years but her brief period of being a contender for a Slam title was over and she was never the quite the same player again. When her forehand was on form it was lethal!

However her numerous other Slam semi-finals amounted only to the Aussie in 1975 and late 1976 with less than half the world's top 10 present.

Again, no-one can take her 1976 FO title away from her but it is interesting to hear her comment that Chris Evert wasn't in the field and she would have liked to beat her although you can only beat those who are. The masterpiece of understatement! What wasn't said was that the top dozen or so players in the world were missing! Sue was the #1 seed although she was only ranked in the middle teens at that stage. Full marks to her for taking advantage and becoming champion but.........

I don't know whether it was the psychological effect of the Wimby 1977 defeat or if other factors were invloved in herloss of form. What had been a relentless move up the rankings suddenly reversed but I did read an article in that period where as a straight player she was slightly dicouraged by the behaviour of some of the gay players in the locker room.

Great potential, sadly never realised. Perhaps it was what seems to be the common British failing of not being to produce the goods under pressure when it comes to the pinnacle. Certainly, what would we give today for a female player who could achieve just half of what Sue did and win a number of tour titles.

I agree with you about her presenting skills not just in tennis but in other sports and the media generally. The only one black spot is when she and John Lloyd get onto the subject of Tim Henman then she puts on her rose-coloured spectacles and it's time to run for the hills!
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I blame Cliff Richard ;-)

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Sue rockz!! She's a brit national treasure - great player and the ultimate broadcasting professional

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I agree with you about her presenting skills not just in tennis but in other sports and the media generally. The only one black spot is when she and John Lloyd get onto the subject of Tim Henman then she puts on her rose-coloured spectacles and it's time to run for the hills!
Yes she has got a bit of a soft for for old henners.

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