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H2H Winning Streaks

What about winning streaks in the head to head with great players?

I looked up Evert.

Navratilova beat her 13 times in a row at one point.
Graf 7
Austin and Richey 5
No one else more than twice in a row: King (2x), Goolagong (3x), Sabatini, Shriver, Mandlikova

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Interesting tidbit: Evert led h2h with Wade 40-6, but had never played her at a Slam until Wimbledon 1977
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Navratilova's is quite a bit longer and I may not have them all.

Players w/ winning streaks against Martina:
Evert - 9
Goolagong - 7
Graf, Austin, Casals, Martinez - 4
Seles (2x), King, Jaeger - 3
Sabatini, Mandlikova, Dulko, Sanchez-Vicario, Wade (2x), Masthoff, Heldman, Sukova, Maleeva-Fragniere, Huber, Teeguarden, Fromholtz, Turnbull - 2
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Steffi

Evert 6 times
Sabatini 5 times (and two times a 2 winning streak)
Nav (and one time a 2 winning streak), Durie 3 times

two times
Kohde-Kilsh, Turnbull, Monica, ASV, McNeil, Coetzer, Davenport (twice), Novotna. Lindqvist, Venus

hope that I didn't I forgot anybody.
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Steffi

Evert 6 times
Sabatini 5 times (and two times a 2 winning streak)
Nav (and one time a 2 winning streak), Durie 3 times

two times
Kohde-Kilsh, Turnbull, Monica, ASV, McNeil, Coetzer, Davenport (twice), Novotna. Lindqvist, Venus

hope that I didn't I forgot anybody.
Would you happen to remember the scores of the two matches against McNeil? I imagine one of them had to be the Wimbledon match. I remember that score only too well. Curious about the other.
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Evonne won her first 8 matches (and 16 sets) vs Navratilova.
1973
1r US Indoors 64 64
Ir Sarasota 62 61
QF French Open 76 64
sf Czech International 63 75
sf Charlotte 62 63.

1974
Perth QF 62 62

1975
Australian Open Final 63 62
sf Detroit 76 63


Court had a 14-set, 7 match win streak against King. Court had led 6-1 3-6 5-2 in their first ever encounter at Wimby in 1962 but lost that one 7-5. She didn't lose again until Jo'burg 1966.
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Would you happen to remember the scores of the two matches against McNeil? I imagine one of them had to be the Wimbledon match. I remember that score only too well. Curious about the other.
After several very tough matches with Steffi, Lori finally scored her first win in the round of 16 at the 1992 Virginia Slims Championships ( i.e the year end champs ) 7-6 6-4. Lori then won again in their next meeting which was at 1994 Wimbledon in the 1st round 7-5 7-6. Steffi broke that mini-streak by winning the last match they ever played which was the final in Philadelphia 1995, 6-1 4-6 6-3.
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After several very tough matches with Steffi, Lori finally scored her first win in the round of 16 at the 1992 Virginia Slims Championships ( i.e the year end champs ) 7-6 6-4. Lori then won again in their next meeting which was at 1994 Wimbledon in the 1st round 7-5 7-6. Steffi broke that mini-streak by winning the last match they ever played which was the final in Philadelphia 1995, 6-1 4-6 6-3.
That Philadelphia match was terrific, and I have it on tape and watch it frequently- Virginia Wade was in the booth commentating that day, and she was awestruck at the velocity of the balls both girls were hitting, as well as the all-court play from both players- Graf served beautifully that day, and it really came down to Steffi out-serving Lori throughout the 3-setter.
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Navratilova's is quite a bit longer and I may not have them all.

Players w/ winning streaks against Martina:
Evert - 9
Goolagong - 7
Graf, Austin, Casals, Martinez - 4
Seles (2x), King, Jaeger - 3
Sabatini, Mandlikova, Dulko, Sanchez-Vicario, Wade (2x), Masthoff, Heldman, Sukova, Maleeva-Fragniere, Huber, Teeguarden, Fromholtz, Turnbull - 2
BJK beat Martina 4 times in a row - their first 4 meetings ever - which took place in a three month period (october-November) in Autumn 1977. Martina won 8 of their remaining 10 clashes over the next three years and the final h2h was 8-6 in Martina's favour.

King Atlanta qf 1977: 6-4 6-1
King Phoenix sf 1977: 7-6 4-6 6-4
King Sao Paolo qf 1977: 6-2 3-6 6-4
King Tokyo Gunze f 1977: 7-5 5-7 6-1

Navratilova Houston f 1978: 1-6 6-2 6-2
Navratilova Kansas f 1978: 7-5 2-6 6-3
Navratilova Eastbourne sf 1978: 6-4 6-2

King Chichester 1979 qf: 6-1 6-2
Navratilova Brighton sf 1979: 7-5 0-6 7-6

Navratilova sf Chicago 1980 7-6 3-6 6-1
King Houston f King 1980: 6-1 6-3
Navratilova RR Avon Champs 1980: 6-1 6-2
Navratilova qf Wimbledon 1980: 7-6 1-6 10-8

Navratilova qf Los Angeles 1981: 6-3 7-5
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oooh that's cruel since at this time Martina is more than twice as old as her.
He's an Evert fan; don't worry about it !
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Seles

Before the stabbing:
Graf 3, 2
Navratilova 3

After the stabbing:
Graf 3
Novotna 3
Hingis 5, 8, 3
Pierce 3
Spirlea 3
S.Williams 3
V.Williams 6, 3
Davenport 9
Mauresmo 2
Henin 3
Petrova 2
Sanchez-V. 2
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He's an Evert fan; don't worry about it !
Yes, but every true Evert fan has to have a deep admiration for Martina's accomplishments. One of the risks of playing at 47 is that yes, the matches do count. Dulko will go down in history as having a two match winning streak against Martina.
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Yes, but every true Evert fan has to have a deep admiration for Martina's accomplishments. One of the risks of playing at 47 is that yes, the matches do count. Dulko will go down in history as having a two match winning streak against Martina.
Absolutely, P/F. I didn't mean to imply this shouldn't be counted - it was just a light-hearted attempt to soften the "blow" for ti-online

As you say, Martina's decision to play on does affect her stats; she has broken a few records during her comeback but also acquired others like the two losses to Dulko that she'd rather not have. It's her choice.

My feeling - confirmed by what i've read on BFTP - is that fans of both these players have a deep admiration for the other half of the rivalry and I only wish the same were true for the Graf-Seles gang.

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...My feeling - confirmed by what i've read on BFTP - is that fans of both these players have a deep admiration for the other half of the rivalry and only wish the same were true for the Graf-Seles gang.
Allow me to be that bastion of light shining in the Seles vs. Graf darkness. I for one can and do appreciate both tennis players for what they have brought to the table!
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No problem with that, Alfajeffster. I just wished both would have had their chance to reach their full potential, not only 1 of them, who won a great deal of titles by the misery the other player had to go through. It altered the history of women's Tennis, as Billie-Jean King as well as Martina Navratilova said it back then and Chris Evert said a few months ago.
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