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ideas on bizarre 70s chris/evonne matches

this will unfortunatley be a question few will have access to having insight into, but those on these boards would have the best shot at getting some ideas about it...

beginning early in their rivalry, these 2 played bizarre see-saw matches, and as i watch, i cant find a clue as to why...

in the 72 wimbledon sf, chris goes up a set & 3-0, then evonne takes 6 straight, and they conclude evenly with a 6-4 third set.

likewise, in a few chris lost in 76 VS to evonne, she would shoot up 3-0 and 4-1 and then...whoosh...all evonne.

the most ridiculous example is the 76 san fran match, which some may have in their world tennis reports. chris went up 5-0 then found herself 5-5 before closing 7-5 7-6.

it happened again as late as 1982 in their BRILLIANT citizen cup match.... one of their most grueling battles. Chris breezes 6 straight in a 5-7 6-1 6-4 thriller which took almost 3 hours and left them both drenched through to the bone in sweat.

now, yes, evonne was well-known for her famous 'walk-abouts' where she'd space out for a little while and then she'd key back in...but considering chris was the queen of consistency, its still hard to imagine why these long sweeps of games would occur on both sides of the net.

so...pourquoi?

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Just to even think of their 1976 Wimbledon final breaks my heart. Completely stupid, I know, but whenever I have seen it again I have had a gremlin in my mind saying maybe the ending will be different. Get real!
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Just to even think of their 1976 Wimbledon final breaks my heart. Completely stupid, I know, but whenever I have seen it again I have had a gremlin in my mind saying maybe the ending will be different. Get real!
for me, the far more exciting contest was their slims finals clash that year, which evonne took, and hey, she did come up with that stunner in 1980 at wimbledon!
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From the matches I have seen between the two, and from watching several other Goolagong gems (and you know how I feel about watching her move across a tennis court- when she was on- there is nothing more beautiful in tennis), it doesn't surprise me at all. Evonne Goolagong was known for her "walkabouts" yes, however, in particular, her match-ups with Chris seemed to me to be very well defined. She knew what she had to do to beat Chris, and Chris knew that her consistency would win out in their h2h over the long run, as Goolagong was never, at any point in her tennis career, consistent. I think the best analogy (and you may not like this, but please don't take it personally) is to imagine Evonne hitting against a mirrored wall or a ball machine. The ball machine or mirrored wall will usually win, and sometimes, depending on the Goolagong presence on the day, convincingly. There will have been days and moments and patches in their encounters, however, when the muse will flash brilliant white light, and the magick wand will paint strokes and sparks of seemingly impossible and spectacular brilliance, to which the mirror or the ball machine can only bow the head and reflect in spellbound admiration. I think Billie Jean King summed it up perfectly: "winning never consumed Evonne". That is why their match-up is so much more interesting to me than the Evert/Navratilova one. I always see Evonne as the primal earth goddess and Chris as the grounding touchstone, or rock of reality.

There is nothing more beautiful than Evonne Goolagong in full flight moving across a tennis court.
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i can see that, jeffster...but for chris to lose 5 games straight to anyone was rare, and with evonne, it was regular; maybe it was just an intangible energy swooping between them, and the results just followed...
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i can see that, jeffster...but for chris to lose 5 games straight to anyone was rare, and with evonne, it was regular; maybe it was just an intangible energy swooping between them, and the results just followed...
Let me see... who could it be... could it be SATAN!

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Let me see... who could it be... could it be SATAN!
i think it was GLINDA THE GOOD!
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i think it was GLINDA THE GOOD!
Goodness is elemental. I'd say she was entranced with the passion Evonne had for actually running across a tennis court...

http://www.faerywolf.com/art_BringerOfPassion.htm

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The press had a field day with their "Sunshine Girl" meeting the "Ice Maiden", didn't they? I think that even though most people talk about the Evert-Navratilova rivalry, this one is more intriguing because oth C & M were "pattern" players albeit of very different ilks, so even if there was a magnificent contrast in styles the patterns tended to be reproduced from one match to the next, whereas Evonne's game seemed less formatted than those of either Chris or Martina. I haven't studied enough of her matches to be able to confirm this hunch, mind you.

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Chris' own comment on it

In her 82' biography "Chrissie" she compared her match-ups with Evonne against those with Billie Jean and Margaret. She said she "savored" victories over her those two but with Evonne is was "just easy" and that sometimes during their matches she did find herself "watching" Evonne move and hit.

As impeccable as Chris's point after point focus was, she admitted drifting at times which could explain this weirdness. She drift out momentarily and Evonne would drift right back in.
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The press had a field day with their "Sunshine Girl" meeting the "Ice Maiden", didn't they? I think that even though most people talk about the Evert-Navratilova rivalry, this one is more intriguing because oth C & M were "pattern" players albeit of very different ilks, so even if there was a magnificent contrast in styles the patterns tended to be reproduced from one match to the next, whereas Evonne's game seemed less formatted than those of either Chris or Martina. I haven't studied enough of her matches to be able to confirm this hunch, mind you.
i think thats a good point, andyT. evonne was like a more consistent hana, and it is possible chris had trouble reading evonne once she got 'on'....a lot of chris' good results come from her strange habit of guessing correctly where the next shot was going; i have heard so many commentators say of chris, 'see, she guessed right again!' so evonne probably didnt know where she was going to hit until 2 seconds before the ball hit her racquet, and maybe that interferred with evert's radar.
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