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1976 VS Finals -- Evonne & Chris

All this reminiscing brought a fuzzy memory back to me...

On the final point of the match, didn't Chris retrieve three straight overhead smashes before finally flicking her racket in feigned (real) exasperation? Now there's another match I'd love to see.
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All this reminiscing brought a fuzzy memory back to me...

On the final point of the match, didn't Chris retrieve three straight overhead smashes before finally flicking her racket in feigned (real) exasperation? Now there's another match I'd love to see.
i was JUST posting about evonne & chris, including this match, also in a new thread, just as you were writing this. how bizarre...there must be some goddess of the boards dictating trends of thought into the atmosphere.

but yes, i remember them BOTH throwing their racquets in the air at the end of that one!! (chris threw hers a little higher after the 76 wimbledon final, however!! )

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Interesting, as the desciption of that point nearly nearly mirrors another I recall by Evert, in mixed WITC doubles competition...perhaps Daze remembers it (?). In this particular match from either '75 or '76 (Evert/Ashe vs Nastase/Casals) Chris retrieved a series of three or four well placed smashes with wonderful anticipation and agility, though eventually Nastase finally put it away, while Chris playfully tossed her racket towards his final shot's direction...not a match of any historical importance, yet at numerous times, highly entertaining stuff
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Interesting, as the desciption of that point nearly nearly mirrors another I recall by Evert, in mixed WITC doubles competition...perhaps Daze remembers it (?). In this particular match from either '75 or '76 (Evert/Ashe vs Nastase/Casals) Chris retrieved a series of three or four well placed smashes with wonderful anticipation and agility, though eventually Nastase finally put it away, while Chris playfully tossed her racket towards his final shot's direction...not a match of any historical importance, yet at numerous times, highly entertaining stuff
that was a GREAT match! back then, chrissie desperately wanted to prove she COULD play doubles. haha...as we've discussed, she actually is very skilled at doubles, but she never found the side-kick who 'got' her contribution enough to not be thrown off by it. The players just looked to play doubles with the traditional 'run to net, put it away quicker than the next guy' mentality. chris liked those short chips and continued to use the lob with great effect. Turnbull and evert played well together, but chris' unique approach to the doubles environment never, musically, found the right record producer! anyway, i think that was likewise the match where she finally got so mad at nastase she smashed a ball away, showing that rare glimpse into her true 'pissed-off' self!
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Those WITC doubles matches were classic!

I remember having such a crush on Chrissie and those dresses she wore and her perfect ponytail and ribbon combo. Watching her engage in doubles with other players who made it their forte was kind of thrilling for me because I also had a two-hander and I remember thinking "if she can do it, so can I..."

I remember her never really being that outclassed by any of the others. She stood her ground and nailed quite a few for winners. Even though it was *officially* competitive, there was a real comraderie with everyone involved. I think they all knew deep down that it was golden opporttunity to promote their sport and they all equally shared in promoting their sport. I know this series helped to cemment tennis' growing popularity at the time.

Truly the golden years to my mind. I watched it faithfully...then went out to the local courts right afterward!
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Daze: Indeed that was the same match, after that particular point where she bested Nastase, she sarcastically mocked him back, for Nastase had been annoying her partner Ashe btwn points for way too long
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Correction!

My recollection actually short-changed Chris! Believe it or not, Evert miraculously retrieved four smashes in a row by Nastase, followed by one smash by Casals before Nastase finally pummeled the sixth overhead smash just out of Evert's reach. Certainly a classic point which I highly recommend others to check out. It is the 1975 WITC Evert/Ashe v Casals/Nastase match, which occured at 4-3, love 15 on Casals' serve. It is actually the second point broadcasted, as the first seven games are edited by the network. Amazingly, there are still numerous other classic points which follow this one, great match!
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Evonne/Chris 1976

Back to Evert v Goolagong: I was just viewing Sports Illustrated's 50 Year Anniversery site and noticed two interesting covers from that year. Evonne graces the cover for the week of April 26, 1976 with the headline; "Does Evonne Have Chrissie's Number?" with "Goolagong Wins Again" in smaller print beneath. However after winning their two GS finals later that year, it was Chrissie's turn, on the December 20th "Sportswoman of the Year" cover edition. But the former title is odd because Chrissie had beaten Evonne eight straight times in 75-76 before losing to her twice in '76 and then winning their Wimby and the US Open finals in that year. By then in their rivalry, who really had who's number?
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Daze: Indeed that was the same match, after that particular point where she bested Nastase, she sarcastically mocked him back, for Nastase had been annoying her partner Ashe btwn points for way too long

Far from being the "ice maiden," looks like Chrissie had plenty of fire for ole Nastase. I'd be curious to see how those two interacted during a doubles match. Nastase was known for being quite nasty to female opponents.
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HanafanGA:Off court, Ilie and Chris seemed to get along well, it's just that Nastase was using every dirty psychological trick in the book to get under Arthur's skin throughout the duration of the contest. In my view, Chris was just playfully trying to stick it back in Ilie's face, as he certainly deserved it. This was also the match where Ashe refused to shake Nastase's hand after it was over - and IMO, for good reason! At one point during the match, the crowd starting yelling at Nastase to cut out his antics, with one woman yelling "shut up" at him. Not one of my favorite players, that's for sure but a great strategic match regardless
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Wow, thanks for the insight into that match Santorofan. I knew that Nastase and Ashe didn't get along well. But when you throw Chrissie into the mix it becomes very interesting. Since Chris liked to have fun off of the court and got along with Vitus and the other party animals, it makes sense that she and Illie would get along. Illie was also a smart man. It didn't hurt to make an enemy of Arthur Ashe who didn't seem to be vengeful at all. But he must have known NOT to get on Chris' bad side.
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Far from being the "ice maiden," looks like Chrissie had plenty of fire for ole Nastase. I'd be curious to see how those two interacted during a doubles match. Nastase was known for being quite nasty to female opponents.
he really was pretty respectful of chris; i believe in PART due to her charming looks however. But he respected her tennis, as everyone essentially did in the 70s...very notably, nastase's 'mentor/hero' pancho gonzales who spoke in glowing reverential terms of chris from the very start. Nasty even coached her, in fact, for world team tennis. He was in her friends box for a number of her late 70s GS finals, and even came by to watch her match against martina at the 87 cap d'adge event and very warmly congratulated her afterwards. I think Nasty was easily in the Connors mold, after all, and she did have a soft-spot for those bad boys...
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Did she ever "do" him, Daze?
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My understanding was that Nastase and Evert were friendly primarily due to the mutual Connor's connection - IMO everything else seems pretty much like conjecture. But from what I can tell, she didn't have a "soft-spot" for a lot of Nastatse's on-court antics, as King and Gonzales both agreed she was angry at Ilie during this particular match and was hardly impressed with how he was acting. She also commented about this specific match in a Tennis Magazine column regarding both Arthur's inspiring life and untimely death:

http://www.tennis.com/Progame/fullst...480&itype=1296

Daze are you sure that Gonzales was Ilie's 'mentor/hero' as I never heard that before and Pancho is one of my favs, although yes, Pancho certainly respected Chris's game. I knew Tiriac was a sort of a mentor to Ilie, never heard of Pancho being one though, and as a tv commentator, Pancho never sounded part. favorable or close to him at all. Further, I've seen little evidence about Chris having a thing for "bad boys" as you've stated here and prior, as Connors was the only genuine "rebel" I recall her being involved with, and Lloyd and Mill both leaned closer to a civilized, sensitive "new-age" men than anything bordering on Hell's Angels.

Though perhaps you're familiar with a darker side of her social past that I am unaware of

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FYI- I have a copy of the Ilie Nastase / Arthur Ashe World Invitational Tennis Classic final from Hilton Head (played on har-tru), and Pancho Gonzales was commentating in the booth, and he's very mentor-like when he talks about Ilie, and at one point in the match, Ilie actually turns away from the court and looks right at Pancho and says something to him.
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