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My thoughts on the Tennis Magazine Article on Jen

I read the article at the library that I work at last night and was quite disappointed by the negative tone and the agenda that the author had. Among the lowlights for me:

-Trying to say that Jen's career has been a disappointment since she's "only" won 3 Slams and 14 titles. I hated the way they had to compare her career to Lindsay's, claiming Lindsay won the more important majors (which is ridiculous. Yes, Wimbledon is the biggest Slam. But Roland Garros is as big a major as the US Open).

He also claimed that since Jen missed only two full years on the tour she should still have a lot more titles. Who cares how many small tournaments she wins.

-His claim that Jen has few close friends on the tour and deliberetly stays away from players because she can't be good friends with her competitors. This is so ludicrous because she gets along very well with the top players. But to say there is something wrong that she only has a few really close friends on tour? How many of us have 10 close friends from the workplace? Hell, I have ONE close friend. It's all about quality, not quantity.

-He also claimed that Jen is media-trained and usually smooth and calm in the media. This is the 100% opposite of Jen. She is always herself and does not come accross as polished and media-trained. Heck, in the ESPN Classic special about Jen, they said she never received any media training.

-The author also randomly pointed out that Jen has only said "hi" to Amy Frazier in all the years on tour. That one was kind of funny.

-He also claims that when Jen loses, she always blames the weather or bad calls, and then uses this to motivate her. This is garbage. She always gives props to her opponents, win or lose. Serena is the top excuse maker on tour, not Jen.

-He also had to make unflattering comments about Jen's weight and not being graceful. Does anyone know that thinness and fitness are totally unrelated.

-he also claims the 2005 Aussie Open is Jen's last chance for a major. But she can't win the other slams that are just a few months later? Huh?

I'm starting to wonder if the author was trying to bash Jen OR if he thought that by writing this article, he would fire Jen up.

I did enjoy the pictures and some of the quotes. But overall, the article was poorly written and full of agendas.

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Now that I think about it, you're right JennyS. Even though I didn't want to admit it and I refused to believe it, that article did have alot of negativity towards Jen. Oh that pisses me off. What the fuck in hell is wrong with all these damn writers??? Is it going to kill them to say something nice about jcap for once??

That's it, I am becoming a writer/journalist and am going to write tons of fucking articles the right way, that all these other damn people can't do. Just wait, Jen and her fans are going to be so proud because at least someone will stick up for her. I just don't get how they can say bad/negative stuff about her. Jen is, without question, the greatest athlete/tennis player ever...i dont care what anyone says. She is so cool...just look at those pictures! Ok, I am done venting my anger now. Good luck Jen and prove those asshole writers wrong and win those grandslams!!!!

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I know it was negative. I just get so excited to see anything about Jen. Well when I was reading it I did keep yelling and telling my brother that it was bull what they were saying. Some of the stuff was jsut stupid. There were a few good things but for the most part they were saying that she is almost done which is so not true. Eww now i am mad!! What the heck why do people say stupid stuff about her all of the time. They ahve no idea what they are saying. I wish a really good article with the truth in it and something that is postive about Jen would come out. For goodness sakes she is one of the greatest tennis players to ever play the game and no one but her fans give her any God Damn credit!! Ok now I am pissed!!!

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Well,knowing Jen this will only motivate her even more to put him in his place By the way,if winning three slams,an Olympic gold and 14 career titles makes for a disappointing career I hate to think about how this guy feels about the 99.9% of the other players who don't win anywhere near as much . And that "next year's Australian Open is her last chance for winning a major" is just a crap statement by someone who wants to give the impression that he knows what he's talking about .

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i havent read the interveiw yet...proberly wont be out in the uk till next year.lol...buti think these people who right the articals like to think the know more about the game etc cos its there job....we would disagree....but some of stuff he wrote was uncalled for. im a lindsay fan and all we read about is her mobillity problems,how she had to loose lots of weight,retirment etc..no one mentions that she is the cleanist striker in the game and her backhand is the best on tour....media peeps always write negative...i hope it jen reads it and proves this idiot wrong....

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I hope so too. It's not that I mind journalists being critical. That's part of their job. But some of them have to put a negative spin on everything. How can he say that Jen's career has been disappointing compared to Lindsay's? That's such a crappy thing to say. Why not accentuate the fact that she has made the most sensational comeback in tennis history (NOT an exaggeration by any means!) at a time when almost everyone thought that her career was over?

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i havent read the interveiw yet...proberly wont be out in the uk till next year.lol...buti think these people who right the articals like to think the know more about the game etc cos its there job....we would disagree....but some of stuff he wrote was uncalled for. im a lindsay fan and all we read about is her mobillity problems,how she had to loose lots of weight,retirment etc..no one mentions that she is the cleanist striker in the game and her backhand is the best on tour....media peeps always write negative...i hope it jen reads it and proves this idiot wrong....

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When I read the article (all of the billion times) I really didn't feel like it had a negative tone.

I agree that the author got some stuff wrong. I remember seeing in her Sports Century special that Jen was specifically not media trained, to allow her true, child like charm come through in her answers. If she's media trained now it's only because she stays directly on the point of tennis, unless goaded by the journalists at the press conferences. Also, Jen isn't one to always cite outside forces for her losses. Maybe she did back in the day (and maybe that's what the author meant), but I'd say she's good at giving her opponent their props.

As for Jen's career being a disappointment when compared with Davenport's... Well, you have to admit: Jennifer's level of success isn't compatible with her level of talent. I think it's awesome (in a weird way) that Jen has such a low record for tournament wins because it only adds to the intrigue of her career, but for somebody as good as Jennifer is and was, fourteen pro tournaments is slight. Obviously, Jennifer would rather have the three slams then the fifty plus tier tournaments, and as a fan I would agree, but I don't think it's negative to point out that oddity. If anything, the author was slighting Lindsay. He described her almost as a player who will come and go in the memory of the sport, while he insists that of any current player (including the sisters) Jennifer will be the one who leaves lasting footprints.

Also, I think he wasn't exactly revering the Williams sisters. When pointing out Jennifer's interests outside of tennis, he quoted Jennifer as saying she didn't need to be validated by it, and in his own words, like some people on the tour. And he certainly didn't need to point out that she's a lot deeper than most people would guess. I, for one, was happy to have more evidence to go into my "Jennifer is actually smart, she just doesn't know how to speak in front of the press" theory.

As for the whole graceful thing... She's not. She's solidly built, thick woman. I get the same reactions when I play. My opponent looks at me, almost saying, "6-0 6-0. She can't get to anything", and then they are shocked when I run after everything tirelessly (though, okay, I would probably still lose 6-0 6-0). She's not tall and lanky like Venus, or tiny and thin like Hingis or Henin Hardenne, and it is surprising to see her get to that stuff.

And, yeah, she's fit. But 2001 fit? Not even close. Jennifer seems to work in a circle in that when she's fit she has great mental strength. Maybe if she lost those "extra five pounds" as Solomon mentions, that'd be enough to really get her confidence going. There's no question she can still kick some major ass if she gets that mental game going.

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I don't agree with you about Jen's fitness. She hasn't lost any speed at all and she was able to play three set matches. Look at all the running backs in the NFL who are "thick" and nowhere near thin, yet run a zillion miles an hour.

It could simply be that Jen ate differently in 2001 than she does now, but works out the same amount. Last year, she was working out very hard with a few trainers throughout the season, and never got to the weight that she was in 2001. So maybe she eats more now. No big deal.

I think people see Jen bigger than she is because she is big boned and has wide shoulders. She doesn't have a huge stomach.

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i was plannin on getting the mag but havin read what u guys said im thinkin twice. i just could not believe what kinda writer would put someone on the front page only to write "implicit (and some actually explicit) criticisms" about her. whoever that writer is, i think he is cheap, and to say the least, unethical in every sense of the word. its not surprising how many people still tend to dislike jenn -- its because of one-sided media that knows nothing better than to bring her down. for them jenn has always been the "bad gal" bcoz of her history--anything bad about jenn, is the worst to them. and anything good about her, is weird to them. i wonder what he thinks of amelie mauresmo who until now hasnt one any grand slams yet, but of course is obviously one of the tour's best players all these years. im sure about 99% of the players would agree that even though a grand slam is a grand achievement, to have not won any or as many grand slams as expected by the entire universe does not speak of failure. there's obviously more to being a champion than just winning grand slams. like they say in basketball, a true most valuable player is one who makes his teammates and even opponents better, because of his/her intensity and the way he/she plays.. same goes for jenn, her finesse brings out the best in her opponents and that is the true mark of a champion.. if there was a most valuable player award i tennis, i have no doubt jenn would win it.
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Yeah, I agree. Tennis would be boring without Jen.

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I totally agree that Jennifer is fit. I do know that just because someone is big, or thick doesn't mean they are out of shape. But I think it's obvious she's not as fit as she was even in the beginning of 2002. The main difference as I've observed it (when ESPN even bothered to show something outside of an Andy Roddick match) is that now she gets to the ball out wide, but sends it back defensively. In 2001 and 2002 she was getting those out wide balls and getting herself on the offensive. I just now that if she got herself into that kind of shape again, she'd be back in contention. I don't care much about her weight. In fact, it kind of makes her a body image role model since we're built the same way.

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It's interesting that you mention 2002, because Jen's weight was about the same then as it is now, yet her fitness levels aren't the same. I did see her come up with an offensive shot on the run this year on championship point in the Rome final, so she just doesn't do it as often.

I think the reason she wasn't as fit this year was because of her back and hamstring injuries. It wasn't her weight.

I am reading a book right now called Obesity Myths and it is fascinating. The author says that excersizing will not result in dramatic loss for a person who is overweight, but not obese. Perhaps 5-15 pounds would be the expeded weight loss.

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i was plannin on getting the mag but havin read what u guys said im thinkin twice. i just could not believe what kinda writer would put someone on the front page only to write "implicit (and some actually explicit) criticisms" about her. whoever that writer is, i think he is cheap, and to say the least, unethical in every sense of the word. its not surprising how many people still tend to dislike jenn -- its because of one-sided media that knows nothing better than to bring her down. for them jenn has always been the "bad gal" bcoz of her history--anything bad about jenn, is the worst to them. and anything good about her, is weird to them. i wonder what he thinks of amelie mauresmo who until now hasnt one any grand slams yet, but of course is obviously one of the tour's best players all these years. im sure about 99% of the players would agree that even though a grand slam is a grand achievement, to have not won any or as many grand slams as expected by the entire universe does not speak of failure. there's obviously more to being a champion than just winning grand slams. like they say in basketball, a true most valuable player is one who makes his teammates and even opponents better, because of his/her intensity and the way he/she plays.. same goes for jenn, her finesse brings out the best in her opponents and that is the true mark of a champion.. if there was a most valuable player award i tennis, i have no doubt jenn would win it.

well said!!!!

P.S.) Get the magazine...it is still worth it. The article is still good and the pictures are great!!!

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Poppy thinks that
Whoever writes crap
About our Jennifer
Is a simply a loser!

There's no problem with Jen's weight
Her fitness is always,always great
Just look at her running all over the court
And when she hits the ball, it's like a bolt!
So Mr Journo, Enough with your shit!
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anyone got a link to the article or (and esp) the pics?

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