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Guys, I have a few questions regarding the various changes that the WTA system has undergone over the years.

1) When was the YEC finally given ranking points?
2) When were quality points first introduced?
3) How long did the diminishing returns system ued in the early-mid 80s last?
4) In the days of two tours + tournaments (not exhibitions) outside both tours, how did the WTA decide which tourneys counted and which didn't?

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1) There were various situations : Some YEC were given points for the "Grand Prix Rankings" (Colgate/ Toyota, Avon...) Some other for both : Grand Prix (Race today) and WTA Average Ranking system . So I'm not sure when it started. Certainly mid-80's, but...

2) ?
3)till start of '84.
4) You mean 71/76 or later?
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3) How long did the diminishing returns system ued in the early-mid 80s last?
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3)till start of '84.
Are you sure about this, hanafan. In her book, "Passing Shots", Pam Shriver talks about WTA meetings where they discussed doing away with the diminishing returns system sometime in mid-1985. I also posted a "World Tennis" article that mentioned the diminishing returns system as having been in place in 1985. It's all very confusing, isn't it?

Andy T, I once asked Bud Collins some of the same questions about the ranking system, and he directed me to the WTA rankings guru. Unfortunately, she didn't respond to any of my e-mails -- she probably doesn't have the time or the inclination (or both) to answer tedious e-mails from people who care about the minutiae of the WTA and its history.

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Mea Culpa! In the start of 84 they were experiencing a new ranking system, but with results discounted (I have checked my IWT '84 volume). So I think the system stayed till about 86 or 8č, but I'm not sure.

If somebody has has more Inside Women's tennis, it would be easy to check!
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Are you sure about this, hanafan. In her book, "Passing Shots", Pam Shriver talks about WTA meetings where they discussed doing away with the diminishing returns system sometime in mid-1985. I also posted a "World Tennis" article that mentioned the diminishing returns system as having been in place in 1985. It's all very confusing, isn't it?

Andy T, I once asked Bud Collins some of the same questions about the ranking system, and he directed me to the WTA rankings guru. Unfortunately, she didn't respond to any of my e-mails -- she probably doesn't have the time or the inclination (or both) to answer tedious e-mails from people who care about the minutiae of the WTA and its history.
You're surely not suggesting we're nerdettes, are you Samn?!

Thanks for having a look around for the answers hanafan (c'est super que tu sois revenu!) and samn.

The thing I find so irritating is that there have been so many changes that you're never comparing like with like with these systems.

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