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I've never really thought that tennis matches might be fixed, but the more I've thought about Gasquet and Golovin winning the mixed doubles at this year's FO the more I've doubted its legitimacy. How much would it have taken for someone to realize the draw of the two dream kids of French tennis playing and doing well at the FO? Could someone have paid their opponents off? These kids had no doubles experience. Has anyone else ever questioned that result? What about other fishy results?

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I've never really thought that tennis matches might be fixed, but the more I've thought about Gasquet and Golovin winning the mixed doubles at this year's FO the more I've doubted its legitimacy. How much would it have taken for someone to realize the draw of the two dream kids of French tennis playing and doing well at the FO? Could someone have paid their opponents off? These kids had no doubles experience. Has anyone else ever questioned that result? What about other fishy results?
I don't recall all of the details so maybe someone else can fill in the missing name. On another board someone pointed out how in 1994, right after her Wimbledon singles win Conchita Martinez suffered a stunning loss in an early round. The speculation was she did it to avoid playing Gigi Fernandez in the next round. Don't know if the story is true. I do know old BJK was pretty worried about Gigi being on the Fed Cup team when the US played Spain because she worried about what Gigi might do if she had to play Conchita in the doubles.
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I've never really thought that tennis matches might be fixed, but the more I've thought about Gasquet and Golovin winning the mixed doubles at this year's FO the more I've doubted its legitimacy. How much would it have taken for someone to realize the draw of the two dream kids of French tennis playing and doing well at the FO? Could someone have paid their opponents off? These kids had no doubles experience. Has anyone else ever questioned that result? What about other fishy results?
I know that Nenad Zimonjic was VERY upset when he and Bovina lost to G&G this year at RG. He claimed that the umpire had awarded various suspicious points to them at most important stages in the match.
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I don't recall all of the details so maybe someone else can fill in the missing name. On another board someone pointed out how in 1994, right after her Wimbledon singles win Conchita Martinez suffered a stunning loss in an early round. The speculation was she did it to avoid playing Gigi Fernandez in the next round. Don't know if the story is true. I do know old BJK was pretty worried about Gigi being on the Fed Cup team when the US played Spain because she worried about what Gigi might do if she had to play Conchita in the doubles.
I heard something like that too, but it was about Gigi tanking her semi against Martina at Wimbledon, so that she wouldn't play against Conchita in the final.
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Conchita also (supposedly) blatantly tanked in Brighton one year to go and attend some former coach's wedding.

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Most of my losses to Martina were fixed. I had to allow her to win, she needed the confidence boost...

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Most of my losses to Martina were fixed. I had to allow her to win, she needed the confidence boost...
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I heard something like that too, but it was about Gigi tanking her semi against Martina at Wimbledon, so that she wouldn't play against Conchita in the final.
I had the distinct impression watching that semi that Gigi was not trying her hardest to win and that Martina was conscious of the fact too.

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I had the distinct impression watching that semi that Gigi was not trying her hardest to win and that Martina was conscious of the fact too.
Don't quote me on this. But I think Conchita and Gigi were not together then. I recall something along the lines of Gigi sending a fax to Conchita to congratulate her on her Wimbledon win and things moving on from there. I might be wrong though.


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Don't quote me on this. But I think Conchita and Gigi were not together then. I recall something along the lines of Gigi sending a fax to Conchita to congratulate her on her Wimbledon win and things moving on from there. I might be wrong though.

I'm going by memory here so I don't remember all of the names, but as I recall Gigi was still with Dr. Julie Anthony and Conchita was with I *think* some lower ranked Australian girl. Can't think of her name. I get the impression Gigi and Conchita were hooking up during Wimbledon.
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Okay, am I the only one here who had a stupid little chuckle when I first read the title of this thread? C'mon- fess up- it's mildly funny!


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Conchita was with I *think* some lower ranked Australian girl. Can't think of her name.
I can't remember either. Louise Plumming maybe? It will come back to me.

I think tanking at GS is almost unthinkable. These girls are professionals, but also highly competitive, otherwise they would not be out there... you know the kind of people you would not want to play cards with?

I think Conchita is one of the better known "tankers" of recent times, her "I can't be bothered" stunts being well known. However, I think it has mostly been about Conchita being annoyed with herself, losing concentration or lacking self-belief, I don't think she has ever tanked a match when it mattered. And, whatever the relationship between them, I think Martina's SF win in 1994 was not due to any tanking on Gigi's behalf, and let's be fair, Gigi's singles were nowhere near Martina's league (or Conchita's for that matter), and a SF appearance at Wimbledon was milking her potential to its maximum.


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I can't remember either. Louise Plumming maybe? It will come back to me.
Louise Pleming And the blonde Australian was her partner at the Champion Dinner on Sunday night

But Conchita's most obvious tanking was at Brighton 1994 when she lost 6/1 6/3 vs Neiland in the QF...the reason? His long time coach Eric Van Harpen was getting married on Saturday and she wanted to be there The worst thing is that Conchita was paid a huge amount of money to play (she was a BIG name in England these days having won Wimbledon a few months earlier) and the organizers were even eager to pay a private jet to bring her to Holland and bring her back to Brighton after the ceremony

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Louise Pleming
Close enough! For some reason I thought her name was Louise Plumbing - And realising that was probably not her name, I opted for Plumming


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Close enough! For some reason I thought her name was Louise Plumbing - And realising that was probably not her name, I opted for Plumming
Didn't know that about Louise? I was also told she was hooked up with someone quite prominent these days can't remember who?

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