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Chris Evert vs. Tracy Austin

I know this has been discussed at length in other threads, but I got to thinking recently- I've had the great fortune to have seen both these terrific champions play live at exhibitions here in my home town in the past 5 years, and I actually think if they played a singles match against each other today- Chris would win. Her movement seemed to be as good as ever, as well as her accuracy and depth of shot. Has anyone else here seen either of them play recently?

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I know this has been discussed at length in other threads, but I got to thinking recently- I've had the great fortune to have seen both these terrific champions play live at exhibitions here in my home town in the past 5 years, and I actually think if they played a singles match against each other today- Chris would win. Her movement seemed to be as good as ever, as well as her accuracy and depth of shot. Has anyone else here seen either of them play recently?

I was fortunate enough to see Tracy play in person here in Atlanta several years ago when we still had a Team Tennis organization. But its too long ago to judge her performance today I'm sure. She was just as she seems on USA broadcasts. She was energetic and bouncy as ever.

The only negative observation that I had of her that day was that she seemed to stiff on her movement. From the few matches of hers that I saw in the early 80's, I remembered the same thing. The production of strokes wasn't as nice to watch, but that grit and determination were there.

Wouldn't it be fun to be at a club watching Chris and Tracy square off? I'm guessing that neither of those two ever appear on the same court these days though.
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Chris would win becuase she is, and has always been the better player........
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I was fortunate enough to see Tracy play in person here in Atlanta several years ago when we still had a Team Tennis organization. But its too long ago to judge her performance today I'm sure. She was just as she seems on USA broadcasts. She was energetic and bouncy as ever.

The only negative observation that I had of her that day was that she seemed to stiff on her movement. From the few matches of hers that I saw in the early 80's, I remembered the same thing. The production of strokes wasn't as nice to watch, but that grit and determination were there.

Wouldn't it be fun to be at a club watching Chris and Tracy square off? I'm guessing that neither of those two ever appear on the same court these days though.
Apart from appearing at parades of champions and other administrative functions, I have yet to see them actually on court playing against each other, and it's a shame, really. It'd be fun to see.

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I know this has been discussed at length in other threads, but I got to thinking recently- I've had the great fortune to have seen both these terrific champions play live at exhibitions here in my home town in the past 5 years, and I actually think if they played a singles match against each other today- Chris would win. Her movement seemed to be as good as ever, as well as her accuracy and depth of shot. Has anyone else here seen either of them play recently?

I've always thought of Tracy as being a poor man's Chris Evert. Great player but never up to Chris's level. I don't even think Tracy was on the same level as Maureen Connolly and certainly not Helen Wills. All of these base liners all seem to have a little extra something going on with their desire to win. Tracy I don't think was as determined as this lot was.
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Actually, less than a month ago Evert and Austin did square off in a duel of sorts - which Evert briefly mentioned in her appearance on the McEnroe Show. It was essentially a publicity gimmick by US Open organizers, where the two legends hit with one another somewhere in NYC (Daze 11 were you there??). I don't recall the precise location she mentioned, though it may have been inside Wall Street, Grand Central Station or some outdoor locale. Of course it was just a friendly, nostalgic hit, but certainly an amusing one nonetheless
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You can't judge Tracy vs Chris because we didn't get to see Tracy reach her full potential like Chris. Let's not forget that Tracy was only 16 when she won her first U.S. Open in 1979 and she only played the Australian and French Opens 1 or 2 times. Her injuries cut short her short career and she never developed into the player Chris was. During her short time she gave Chris and Martina HELL and their head 2 head records prove that.

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You can't judge Tracy vs Chris because we didn't get to see Tracy reach her full potential like Chris. Let's not forget that Tracy was only 16 when she won her first U.S. Open in 1979 and she only played the Australian and French Opens 1 or 2 times. Her injuries cut short her short career and she never developed into the player Chris was. During her short time she gave Chris and Martina HELL and their head 2 head records prove that.
I really don't a lot about this period in depth to comment fully but on the face of it I think macn has got a very fair point.
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Ah, but we're talking about the now- the present day- not living in the past or what might have been. They both still play tennis.

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Ah, but we're talking about the now- the present day- not living in the past or what might have been. They both still play tennis.
Sorry, Jeff, in that case I can't comment at all!
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chris was here in NY for an event pushing tennis mag at the us open which was held at grand central. i was supposed to see her but was in maine with my family, of all weeks. she was there with tracy and juan carlos ferrero (hot!). but as for a 'friendly hit' with TA...it couldnt have happened in grand central station, unless it was table-tennis! it is morelikely she caressed some balls with juan-carlos.

while i missed out on it, my friend at tennisweek hit with evert and said she did not miss a ball in a full half-hour of hitting. not one error. and the ball was within 3 inches of the baseline on almost every shot...she's in great form and is now into 'extreme sports' as well...dirt-bike racing is her favorite!! so she's not intimidated by the whole power angle of today; she's more aggressive NOW!!

i would not be surprised if chris is more mobile, and tracy is stiff by nature, as stated...and both work a fair amount with younger players at their academies. but anyway...i have some play from 95 with chris & saggy-tits-turnbull against tracy & martina in doubles. at one point, chris barks out, 'when do I get to play with martina!' which did not go over well with wendy, but the implication was that she didnt think she & wendy were losing because of tracy. (but then, in any case, watching them in doubles is not the style of play they would employ in singles...)

but bottom line is that chris had far longer to develop and expand the parameters of her game against the world's top competition of the 7 years following tracy's retirement, which is substantial. how they've since developed against the 15 year olds at their academies in between baby-feedings would be far secondary, i would imagine. And the 10 years between being 40 & 50 is less significant than those existing in your prime years of being in your 20s...so that also falls in chris' favor.

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Evert would win cause she could develop her game in the mid/late 80s - unlike Austin. BCP: Did you miss something from 1979 to 1981?
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