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Iva Majoli v Anke Huber

Both these players had a lot of hype and pressure on them before they even hit the pro circuit in the early '90s ( very late '80s for Huber ). Iva was to be the new Seles ( even though there was still a very good young Seles around ) while Huber was the next Graf ( who was also sticking around ). They could only ever fail to live up to that hype. Who would you rank higher of these two ( I feel they were of very similar standard ). Iva certainly had the higher highs with winning a grand slam title and three tier 1 titles but Anke seemed to be the more consistent performer. Does that 1 grand slam title automatically place Iva ahead of Anke in any historical pecking order?

Both Majoli & Huber reached a singles career peak of #4. Iva reached #24 in doubles whilst Anke reached #23 as her best. Huber never managed to win a set against Seles and never beat Graf either though she had a couple of big tussles with Graf. Iva never beat Graf but did secure 1 win against Seles.

Anke won 12 WTA singles titles whilst Iva took 8. Anke's biggest was in Philadelphia in 1994, though she had that 5 set epic year end final with Graf. 4 of Iva's 8 titles were very big news ( Roland Garros, Zurich, Tokyo & Charleston ).

At slams Anke was a runner up in the Australian Open and reached 2 quarter finals. At the French Open she made the semi finals once, Wimbledon she made the round of 16 five times and she was a two time quarter finalist at the US Open.

As for Iva she made 1 Australian Open quarter final, was champion at the French Open and three times a quarter finalist there, once reached the quarter finals at Wimbledon and reached the last 16 at the US Open once.

Huber leads Majoli 5-4 in their head to head :

1994 Essen QF : Majoli d. Huber 2/6 6/3 6/1
1996 Leipzig F : Huber d. Majoli 5/7 6/3 6/1
1996 WTA Tour Championships R16 : Majoli d. Huber 7/5 6/2
1997 Hilton Head R16 : Huber d. Majoli 3/6 7/6 6/3
1997 Fed Cup RR : Huber d. Majoli 6/7 6/2 6/0
1997 Leipzig QF : Huber d. Majoli 4/6 7/6 6/4
1997 Rhiladelphia R32 : Huber d. Majoli 6/3 1/6 6/3
1997 Chase Championships R16 : Majoli d. Huber 7/6 7/6
1998 US Open R128 : Majoli d. Huber 6/3 6/3

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25 years from now, Majoli will be more remembered because of her FO win, but Huber had the better career. However, I think neither achieved all they could. My vote is for Huber because she played longer and had more consistent results (relatively speaking).

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Does that 1 grand slam title automatically place Iva ahead of Anke in any historical pecking order?
In my mind, yes. Reading your post it is obvious their records were extremely similar - rankings wise, titles won and head to heads. However, the fact Iva did go that extra mile and upset the odds on the biggest day in her career by beating Hingis in 1997 would put her ahead for me. Anke had her day against Monica in 1996 Australian final but Monica was too good. Martina had won the Australian and went on to win Wimbledon and US Open in 1997 so was the form player of the year, yet Iva really did control that final. I hate when people say she fluked that win. When you think of the very few people who actually win Slams, it's an amazing achievement and on the day she did deserve to beat Hingis. People like Chris O'Neil would be more of a fluke winner to me in that the competition was very weak. For Majoli to win a Slam in the mid 1990s was no fluke - she beat quality opposition. Her career after RG 1997 was perhaps disappointing but for at least one Grand Slam she was the best player over the two weeks.

Also I think the pressure Anke was under to be 'the next Steffi' must have been an enormous burden for a 15/16 year old. It could have been easy for her at that age to assume that she was going to have a great career with those comparisons. I hope she did not put those expectations on herself because when she was 24/25 she would have realised it was not going to happen and that would have been hard to take if she had believed the early hype.

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I like them both very much.

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I didn't care for either of them much. Both finished three times in the year-end World Top Ten, so Majoli's Roland Garros title easily gives her career a much healthier shine. (Still remember her hissy fit at Eastbourne in 1997 when they made her play her match against Zvereva on Court One instead of the Centre Court, which she felt as the French Champion should have been awarded to her. Never mind that Anna Kournikova and Venus Williams were both scheduled on the main court!! She petulantly vowed never to return, presumably not imagining that within just a couple of years her ranking wouldn't have even got her into the qualifying!!)
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Maggie Maleeva is another one I always lumped together with Iva and Anke. About the same age, got to number four, came up at the same time. They always had competitive matches amongst each other. Both Anke and Maggie beat Martina Navratilova twice. And while Iva was supposed to be the next Monica and Anke the next Steffi, Maggie was the next Maleeva (granted, Manuela and Katerina are NOT Monica and Steffi). The big difference (besides Majoli and Huber hitting with more power) is that Maggie was not a very good big-match player. OTHER than the 1992 U.S. Open when she beat Martina, she NEVER even got to a grand slam quarterfinal. And although the matches were close, Iva and Anke usually wound up winning. But she will wind up having the longer career of the three.
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Huber probably had a slightly better all round record but history will always judge Majoli as the better simply because she went the one extra step and won a grand slam title in a strong field so the ability was there even if she didn't subsequently fulfil it.
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I rank Majoli higher because of the slam and having watched them play.

I've always felt Huber was overhyped and pretty much achieved all she was going to in her career whereas Majoli could have done more had she not chosen the party life.
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Interesting thread! Both,Majoli and Huber are 2 of my favourite players of all times.
Of course,everybody might say Iva because she won that GS title.But when I saw them playing each other I always had the impression Anke was the better player.But she had several mental breakdowns.That's why she never went further.

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As a big fan of Majoli and Huber (as well as Maleeva, brought up in this thread and probably another player of this "lumped-together category"), I am interested in what people think about their games and careers. I agree that Huber had a more consistent career. Even when coming back from injuries, she made her way through qualies and tested players in the main draws whereas Majoli could lose in Challengers and blow match points in qualifying matches ( ). I still feel like Majoli's career is more noteworthy because of her bigger results: Roland Garros, of course, bigger wins (even beating Seles), and all of the forgotten things about her, such as getting to the quarters of Wimbledon just a month after her RG win... I believe she had never won a match on grass up until that tournament.

Is anyone else an enamored fan of these two (or Maleeva)???
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