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Less-known classic matches

I was reading that Top 10 Greatest Era Matches thread and they were all classic matches but whenever people talk about classic matches the same matches are mentioned - Graf v Seles 1992 French, Evert v Navratilova 1985 French, Graf v Hingis 1999 French, Graf v Sanchez Wimbledon 1995, Navratilova v Graf US Open 1986, Goolagong v Evert Wimbledon 1976, Court v King Wimbledon 1970, Mandlikova v Navratilova US Open 1985, Graf v Sanchez Vicario French 1989 (little personal one there )

All great matches and famous, but what classic matches are less known that we should know about? All of these matches happened in later stages and mainly finals of Grand Slams or Majors (for you alfajeffster ) but what about matches that happened in the QFs at Amelia Island or the SFs at Eastbourne or Rome or Canadian Open through the 70s, 80s, 90s, and recently that don't get mentioned? It would be good to hear from people who have seen classic matches that some others don't really know about just because they don't get mentioned as often as they deserve to.

Like Shriver v Graf US Open 1985 - 1st ever GS match to have 3 tiebreak sets. I only know that from Pam's book otherwise I wouldn't have known. Did anyone see it?

Also there's matches that don't look like classics because of the score but really are. Arantxa and Hingis played a Fed Cup match in the 1998 final. Hingis won 7-6, 6-3 but the first set went on for over an hour and a half and the match went on about 2 and a half hours for just two sets and the first set and the tiebreak was some of the best tennis I've ever seen. The rallies were just amazing with Hingis trying to outsmart Arantxa, hitting angles and it was like she had the ball on a string. Arantxa running around after everything - Fed Cup always brought out the best in ASV - and it was probably the best match they played, and one of the best of the year, yet no one really knows about it.

Anyone else know any 'unknown' classics?



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Great thread raquel- I have one to add to the list, even though it's a later round, the tennis sparkles and there are several momentum shifts during the match:

1973 USOpen Semi: Court def. Evert 7-5,2-6,6-2

It was a classic match-up of the aggressive serve-and-volleyer (Court) attacking and defending against the aggressive counter-punching accuracy (Evert). Margaret turned up the power and started serving really well in that third set, and Chris started to get tired, but some of the points are spectacular. There's one point where Margaret slices a very good approach to the forehand of Chris, who lofts a perfect lob over the backhand, which Court jumps off the grass blades and smacks an astonishing high backhand overhead, which Chrissie barely runs down, only to hoist another perfect lob over the backhand, which Court miraculously jumps up again and hits yet another high backhand overhead, only the lob was too good, and it lands very short in the court, and Chris runs up and smacks a two-handed backhand past Margaret at the net. Fantastic stuff!

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In the 1998, Amelia Island SF, Pierce played Davenport. Davenport had trounced her to win the title the year before. The two players had similar games, just Davenport's was a little better in all areas. Therefore, Pierce really struggled with Lindsay. Pierce won a great battle 46 63 63. The match had great powerful rallies from the baseline, yet both players had to play great defense because they were on clay. Mary had to play her very best tennis to win. It was a great match to watch and if you've never been to Amelia Island, you've never experienced one of the best venues for a championship match.

Also, Pierce d Seles 46 63 64 at the 2000 FO QF. It should've been the final. Monica had been the best player on clay that year. Mary made that between the legs shot in the air at the baseline! I was happy for Mary but heartbroken for Monica.

Yes, I did watch th '85 Graf/Shriver match. Great suspense. You got the feeling you were seeing something very special in young Graf. Pam had this look of desperation as if she were trying to hold back the hands of destiny. I haven't seen the match since, but Wow! I remember it.

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1938, Semifinal US Nationals: Alice Marble d Sarah Fabyan 5-7,7-5, 7-5

During this tournament New York City was hit by a huge thunder storm and Alice and Sarah had to wait 6 whole days before they could even play. After winning the first set, Sarah was up 2-5 (15-40) in the second. According to the New York Times, Alice "twice saved herself from defeat by a single stroke..." Despite the defeat Sarah and Alice remained the best of friends. They were one of the eras top doubles teams and in 1940, Alice and her coach Teach Tennant were bridesmaids at Sarah's wedding when she married player Elwood Cooke.
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Great idea for a thread!!
I have always wanted to know more about a match I'm sure was a (mini) classic, from the us open 1978, when pam shriver beat martina, on the way to her only grand slam final.
i was a huge chris fan at the time and remember all the hullabaloo the shock win created..it was almost unthinkable for this newcomer to beat the great martina at flushing meadow (the first year there?) and pam gave a great account of herself in the final, which, strangely, was shown on the bbc!!
anyone with more insight let us have their perspective and memories of this one?
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Serena def. Monica 7-5 7-6 at Toronto '01. Extremely hard fought battle between two girls who gave everything they had that day, and some amazing tennis as well.
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1973 USOpen Semi: Court def. Evert 7-5,2-6,6-2
Jeff, do you know if this one is available on video? Thanks.
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In 1975/76, Chris Evert played Marita Redondo at at a Virginia Slims tournament. Evert won 6-7, 7-6, 7-6. Back then, the tiebreakers were nine-point, sudden death at 4-4. Evert saved at least one match point in the second set, maybe more, then squeaked out the third set as well. I did not see the match, but I've read where it was a barn-burner. Redondo played her best tennis indoors and had a horwitzer for a forehand when it was own. When it was off, her game went awry. Either way, there was a lot of drama in the match.
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Evert's final against Carling Bassett in the Amelia Island tournament (early 1980s) was also fantastic. Bassett was hitting winners all over the place, and each point was nailbiting. Chrs finally won something like 7-5 in the third, but the tennis was great, especially in the third set.

Sanchez Vicario's victory over Rafaella Reggi in the first round of Wimbledon (1989), also was fun to watch and really good tennis.

I've heard Goolagong's win over Evert in the finals of the VS Championships in 1976 was superb. Being the Evert fan I am, however, I refuse to watch it (even now, almost 30 years later with the outcome already determined)!
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french 97 semi between Martina and Monica. I really enjoyed that match.

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Can someone elaborate on the 01 Serena v Seles 76 75 match, I only caught the end when they were shaking hands and Jo Durie was saying "that was one of the best tennis matches I have ever seen in my life"
I saw the other crazy match they played where Seles won and saved match points but the tennis was a bit patchy. Any great shots or point in this one??

I know neither are retired but I think the 2002 swiis indoors final of Davenport v Patty Schnyder was absolutely THRILLING. I am a fan of neither player really, but I was on the edge of my seat throughout. PAtty battled SO hard, great tactics, and finally won. Davenport is more or less retired so please allow this memory!
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Jeff, do you know if this one is available on video? Thanks.
Yes, it is. I have it, however I'm sorry to say I don't trade videos any more having had a bad experience with someone else on this board. I sent my copies in good faith last November and am still, almost a year later, waiting for my traded matches. Suffice to say I'm not holding my breath, I've moved on. Also, since I don't have duplicating equipment at home, and have to pay to have it done, I decided it just wasn't worth it. If you would like more information, PM either tennisvideos or daze11 and good luck- it's a great match!

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The US Open semi 1980 Mandlikova vs. Jaeger (6:1,3:6,7:6) was back then regarded as one of the best, if not THE best women's match ever. It doesn't get a mention these days....

James, are you referring to the LA quarterfinal match when Seles saved match points (2001) ? I always thought this match wasn't broadcast anywhere...
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Can someone elaborate on the 01 Serena v Seles 76 75 match, I only caught the end when they were shaking hands and Jo Durie was saying "that was one of the best tennis matches I have ever seen in my life"
I saw the other crazy match they played where Seles won and saved match points but the tennis was a bit patchy. Any great shots or point in this one??
You probably mean the Toronto match. It was fascinating indeed. They were both hitting the ball sooooo hard you couldn't believe it at times, and pretty much painted the lines the whole time. It was one of the best performaces by Monica in the last few years and it's really a pitty she lost, but it was one of those matches when you're sorry either one had to lose. In the second set Serena seemed to be in control but Monica kept coming back to make it to a tiebreak, then she saved a big lead by Serena (5 points or so) and almost won the set, but in the end it wasn't to be. Also the grounting from both ladies was on its best.
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Australian Open QF Sabatini def Peirce (92 Open I think???) 46 76 60

Peirce had match points in the tiebreak which went something like 12-10 or something but went totally nuts after she lost it and the 3rd set was over in 15 minutes.

It was probably everyones first look at Mary in a slam in full flight as she pasted Gaby's shots for winners everywhere - but fell apart mentally when the match was to be won.

Zina Garrison Def Martina 6-3 6-7 7-5 US Open qtrs (late 80's) - Martina saved 8-9 match points, came back from 6-3 5-0 before Zina finally got her first win over Martina in nearlly 30 tries.

Rubin def ASV Aus Open 16-14 in the 3rd - I didn't think the match was going to end!!!

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