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Re: the Sutton sisters

This PDF file has a pic of 3 of the sisters

http://www.californiatennis.com/SCTA...SCTA02June.pdf


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Re: the Sutton sisters

Found more on Violet-she dies 3 August 1957.


http://doig.net/PETE1630.html


Harold Hope8 Doeg (Alfred Hope7, William6, David5, Thomas4, Daniel3, Mr.2, Peter1), born Jan/Mar 1877 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England; died 22 Dec 1917 in San Bernardino Co., CA. He married Violet Maud Sutton, born 22 Jan 1883 in Kensington, Middlesex, England; died 3 Aug 1957 in Los Angeles Co., CA, daughter of Alexander E. Sutton and Mary Ann Godfrey.

Notes for Harold Hope Doeg
Harold's death record (#42320) is recorded as Hopedoeg.

Notes for Violet Maud Sutton
In 1920 she was living at 824 5th Street, Santa Monica, Los Angeles Co., CA; she had no husband, with six children and her sister, Florence E. Sutton. In 1930 she was a tennis coach residing at 824 5th Street, Santa Monica with her children John H., Doris H., Violet H., and William H.

Children of Harold Hope Doeg and Violet Maud Sutton were as follows:
91 i Eric Sutton Hope9 Doeg, born 3 Dec 1906 in CA; died 11 Apr 1966 in Los Angeles Co., CA. He married 11 Jan 1934 in Ventura Co., CA Vivian H. (Spellmire) Doeg, born 1906/07 in CA; died 30 Jun 1936 in Los Angeles Co., CA. Notes: In 1920 Eric lived at 221 Gates Avenue, Brooklyn, NY, a roomer with Marie Dunscombe. Also at this address were Amelia Doig, born 1849/50 in NY, and Emily Doeg, born 1889/90 in England. Emily came to the US in 1905 and was naturalized in 1917. In 1930 Eric T. Hope-Doeg was a bank clerk residing at 854A Lincoln Blvd., Santa Monica, CA with his wife Vivian. S/S 554-10-9297.
92 ii Alfred Hope9 Doeg, born 29 Nov 1907 in Los Angeles Co., CA.
+ 93 iii John Hope9 Doeg, born 7 Dec 1908 in La Colorado, Sonora, Mexico; died 27 Apr 1978 in Memorial Hospital, Redding, Shasta County, CA; buried in Ashes scattered near Ensenada, Mexico. He married (1) Dorothea Scudder; (2) Winifred Jacobs.
94 iv Doris Hope9 Doeg, born 20 May 1910 in Mexico; died 19 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles Co., CA. She married Mr. McGinty.
95 v Violet H.9 Doeg, born 1910/11 in Mexico.
96 vi William Hope9 Doeg, born 17 Feb 1913 in Mexico; died 3 May 1972 in Los Angeles Co., CA. Notes: Birth and death dates from CA Death Index. Birth also reported 13 Feb 1913, and death in Nov 1978 at Bear Creek, Mason Co., WA. S/S 554-10-4323.
97 vii May9 Doeg, born 29 May 1916 in Los Angeles Co., CA.
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Re: the Sutton sisters

Ethel co-wrote a book in the 1930s.

Author Name: Bruce, Ethel Sutton and Bert O.

Title: TENNIS FUNDEMENTALS AND TIMING



Binding: Hardcover
Book Condition: Good with no dust jacket
Publisher: New York Prentice-Hall 1938
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Re: the Sutton sisters

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Children of Adolphus Sutton and Adelina Godfray are (these are May's brothers and sisters):


iv. Ethel M. G. Sutton26, born Jan 1881 in Southsea, Hampshire, England27; died Unknown.

[FONT=Courier New]v. Violet Sutton 28, born 22 Jan 1881 in England29; died 03 Aug 1957 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California29,30;
Thanks Rollo, for your research.
The only discrepancy is in the above quote, which states that both Ethel and Violet were born in Jan 1881. Based on their age difference, I presume Ethel must have been born in 1879.
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Re: the Sutton sisters

3 of the 4 Sutton sisters at a Redondo Tournament


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Re: The Sutton Sisters

Bumping this up as we are in the process of doing more research on the Sutton Sisters. I have discovered more and summarize my finding below.

What we know:

Adolphus DeGrouchy Sutton (1856-1922) wed Adelina Esther Godfray. Adolphus Sutton was a naval captain.

Captain Adolphus: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...egrouch-sutton
Adelina: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...lina-e.-sutton

There were seven children: Charles, Henry, Adele (the oldest girl) and "after a lapse of four years-us four girls."
All were born in England. All emigrated with their parents in 1893. Captain Sutton settled in Pasadena and built a house on a 10-acre tract at what is now Mountain and Hill. It's now called Hillmont House.

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(1) Adele Laura Sutton

Born 18 March 1874 on Jersey, the Channel Islands
Died 20 August 1974 in Los Angeles, California
Married Percy Moberly Allen (1874-1959) circa 1903 or 1904

The eldest, who apparently played tennis only in England. "Adele played tennis in a club near Ealing. She'd give her warped rackets to us youngsters, and my sisters and I played every game with them-rounders, croquet, cricket. When we came to America, we built the court, but we had no equipment." (Hoffman)

Percy and Adele had two daughters at the time he was applying for naturalization:
1. Dorothy Gray, b. Nov. 17, 1905 in Pomona, CA.
2. Marjorie Edith, b. Apr. 9, 1912 at Los Angeles, L.A., CA.

She received a telegraph congraulations on her 100th birthday from Queen Elizabeth II.

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(2) Charles T. Sutton

Born July 1875 in Grouville, Jersey, Channel Islands
Died 1948.

Most likely the person linked below is one and the same with Charles
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...charles-sutton

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(3) Henry Godfray Sutton

Born 29 July 1876 in Paignton, Devon
Died 11 May 1900 in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

Who helped his sisters in California by digging up clay for a tennis court. The person below is him for certes-his middle name providing the key evidence.

Henry died in Austrlia but is buried in California.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...godfray-sutton

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(4) Ethel Mathilda Godfray Sutton "Twinsister"

Born January 1881 in Southsea, Hampshire
Died 18 June 1976 in California
Married Robert "Bert" Orlando Bruce in 1902

Eldest (or 2nd eldest) of the famous 4 sisters. Perhaps Violet's twin sister. Her marriage was an elopement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethel_Sutton_Bruce (which gives Portsmouth as birthplace)

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(5) Violet Maud "Twinsister"

Born 22 January 1881 in England
Died 03 August 1957 in Los Angeles, California
Married Harold Hope Doeg (1877-1917) in San Bernadino, California om 05 November 1905

Eldest (or 2nd eldest) of the famous 4 sisters. Apparently Ethel's twin sister.. She won the first event she ever entered-the 1899 Ojai tournament.

https://www.geni.com/people/Violet-D...00028942665455 (this is the source naming her "Twinsister")
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19030725.2.6
https://www.doig.net/PETE1630.html (which gives 24 January 1882 as date of birth!)

*There is an alternate dates of 1882 and 1883, perhaps explained by Violet shaving a couple years off her age on purpose. Or perhaps it is she and Florence who are the twins?

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(6) Florence E. Sutton

Born 02 September 1883 in England
Died 16 October 1974

3rd and smallest of the famous 4 sisters. She was the only Sutton girl who never married.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Sutton


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(7) May Godfray Sutton

Born 25 July 1887 inPlymouth, England
Died 04 October 1975
Married Thomas Clark Bundy (1881-1945) in 1912--divorced in 1940

The best of the famous 4 sisters, a world beater who may well have been the best female before 1914

Named after her father's yacht. She was a large baby at birth-15 pounds.


http://www.cemeteryguide.com/gotw-sutton.html


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Re: The Sutton Sisters

We have some evidence Ethel and Violet may have been twins, but this needs to be confirmed. What I've seen so far points to them being twin sisters, but not identical twins.


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Able to confirm today that Ethel and Violet were NOT twin sisters. They perhaps were known as "Twinsister" because they were both born a year apart-both in January, after a long gap between them and their 3 older brothers and sisters.


The key evidence? I found an 1881 English census of the Sutton family that states Ethel is a mere 2 months old. If Violet was trult a twin she would also have been on the census.


Ethel was born in January of 1881, while Violet was born a year later, in January of 1882.


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Re: The Sutton Sisters

Posted this short clip of a visiting US tennis team in Germany (1947) in the "A History Of Women's Tennis on Film" topic but it contains a nice easter egg which readers of this thread might enjoy! It starts at 07:55.
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What a delightful clip Wolbo.

Thanks for sharing!

May Sutton was the first of the great California champions. There is a photo of the Pacific Southwest in the 1950s that shows May Sutton, Helen Wills, and Maureen Connolly.

All 3 were hard hitting lasses raised on California hard courts. Serena is part of that tradition.


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Thanks to Jimbo for this photo.




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