Why was the thread about Steve Simon's comment abut possibly reviewing the WC rule closed? Yes, some people had gone off topic and used it as an excuse to Maria bash but surely good moderation here would have been to remove those comments not just close down the whole thread. Even in the relatively short time I have been a member of this forum it has become a shadow of its former self in terms of active users and number of threads. I acknowledge that the mods on here generally do a good job but stifling legitimate debate will only hasten the forum's descent into the grave. And really it should be for the users to decide what they want to talk about not the mods.
It's not that we are trying to stifle debate, but the threads about Maria have been going round in circles for over a year now. While we understand that it's an important topic and posters want to discuss it, it seems that some are unable to do this and stick to the rules of the forum at the same time. That's despite numerous warnings in the multiple threads about the topic. The original thread that we closed had numerous clean ups due to bickering, offensive posting, attacking players (not just Maria), off topic discussion. Each time it was reopened, posters were asked to stay on topic. We try to be as fair as we can, and we know we can't please everyone, but how many times can we say the same thing without taking, what we felt, was the only course of action
I agree with
. I have the feeling that moderation of Sharapova-related threads in GM has exceeded normal scope at some time a little after the CAS decision, and since then there is a lack of clear policy on this issue along with heavy-handed blocking of threads that might be perceived as negative to Maria.
Yes, those threads often have juvenile characterizations by both sides, and yes, they are sometimes repetitive with the same points being recycled and facts/opinions about Maria's adventures before CAS and the tribunal rehashed. Sometimes this is because new posters ask about this information, and sometimes it is because proponents of either side feel that their view needs repeating. But overall these threads have contained lots of useful information about a topic that like it or not is at the forefront of tennis news at the moment and will still be there for the foreseeable future. Pretending that developments regarding Maria's comeback and the positive and negative reactions in the tennis world are not actually happening and/or are not of interest to tennis fans (as
put it, "This thread has run it's course and then some" when closing the main thread about Maria's comeback) is neither convincing (with articles being published in the press daily and with these threads having a large number of views and posters) nor helpful.
I understand that tennisforum might be concerned about legal issues (either real requests from Maria's team or perceived risk of such). If this is the case, it would be of service to the forum users to outright say that an executive decision has been made to submit to self-imposed censorship and to not discuss anything about Maria. It would be sad if one can talk more freely on the BBC or Daily Mail sites about tennis things than in tennisforum, but at least this would be understandable. If this is not the case, then clear rules should be posted about what is OK and what is not OK to be posted, with examples, and these rules should be enforced in cleaning the threads with infarctions issued, not used to close them.
We've not been asked by anyone to stifle debate. As I say, we're happy for posters to discuss things in a reasonable manner, but that seems impossible with this topic.
Originally Posted by FreeSpiritRebell
It's a favourite sport to lock threads, censor any debate and remove posts. What's new? On this board you can pretend you agree with everything. Certain players can't be touched.
Not true at all. We don't want to spend our time locking threads, deleting/editing posts. We joined this forum because, like everyone here, we enjoy tennis and wanted a place to discuss it. Mods are volunteers on here, and they still want to enjoy the forum like other posters. And no one said anywhere about you having to agree with anything or only being allowed to like certain players. You can disagree with what you want and dislike who you want, as long as you don't do in an offensive way.
This place is becoming more and more sterile every week. Slowly the fun is being moderated away and it's harmful to this board in the long run.
The most innocuous things are being deleted and I really don't understand why. Doesn't help this board to stay active. The excessive moderation goes well beyond Sharapova threads.
If you have examples, we can certainly look at it. No one is trying to stop people having fun and anything that is deleted is because it is against the rules.
I'm happy for posters to PM me, or any other mod/admin, if they have any major concerns about things, and we'll try our best to resolve the issue. But as I said earlier, we can't always please everyone and any moderation we do, is because it's against the rules of the forum.
The rules have always been there. They didn't just come into effect March 2016