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Lots of uncertainty with two WC locks so close to the cut-off, and impossible to say at this stage whether Swiatek and Watson will squeak in.
That would have been the case some years ago, but now with the amount of money at stake for a R1 loss and the 50% check for the medical last minute withdrawal I wouldn't expect too much. Players will withdraw on site and get the money, favouring LL instead of next-in players.

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That would have been the case some years ago, but now with the amount of money at stake for a R1 loss and the 50% check for the medical last minute withdrawal I wouldn't expect too much. Players will withdraw on site and get the money, favouring LL instead of next-in players.
Not always. Makarova withdrew from RG way ahead of time. A top player who gets injured won't hang around to scrounge half a R1 paycheque.
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Not always. Makarova withdrew from RG way ahead of time. A top player who gets injured won't hang around to scrounge half a R1 paycheque.
I think it's pretty clear that Makarova is out for a while and probably waiting to get a PR. A breadline player with a small 4-8 week injury is probably going to go and get the 50% prize money.

My 2 cents on wildcards

Swiatek, Watson, Boulter, Dart & Swan are locks I suppose.
For the other 3 Bolsova is coming into the conversation but I don't know if her lack of grass pedigree will haunt her, but her story is interesting so that could help her.
The other drama is that of the first 5: 4 could end up not being used. Boulter and Dart are injured plus Watson and Swiatek could scrape in. That then giving more opportunity to those listed below.
Three 100k ITF's could in theory all have winners from the Maindraw. But they have kind of set a precedent of offering wildcards to those if needed

Last year the top 250 rule was heavily respected for the British girls and all 6 British girls who were contenders got them. But of the other British girls worth considering.

Bains - Gifted a WC to AO, so I think that may hamper her chances as a recent convert. She is likely to make the qualifying draw so maybe she should be getting one. And she won a Grass its in Aus earlier this year.

Dunne: Just outside top 250 but held her own against Ostapenko last year and has won a 60k. But all her other results have really lacked.

Burrage: Had some decent results including a 25k win plus other finals. Biggest improver this year.

Lumsden: I don't think her year has been that good but it is in the 'consideration' range.

Taylor: I think she's probably more talented than Dart and Swan, but seems to be really struggling to stay fit. So she is unlikely for anything more than a QWC.

Raducanu: Best prospect for British tennis although I think slightly too young for this year.


Qualifying I expect all 8 to go to Brits (Leonie Kung could be a consideration as the junior runner up in 2018)
Those rejected above obviously included here. But also considered

Jones - A great story considering her adversity that she has overcome so should be guaranteed.

Broady/Moore - Their games are very suited to grass but they have had ALOT of opportunities. Time might be over now since they look to be on the downer. Although Moore's epic comeback got her some relevance this year.

Webley-Smith - Also had a few chances before but she's actually made some inroads this year to climb the rankings.

Carreras- Her injury return has been good. Obviously, doesn't actually like grass but I think it would be a nice bit of support to offer her the Qualies pay check to help her continue to climb to the top 300.

Murray- also on the return former top 200 and very very likeable.

Allen - Another prospect of the juniors has received a QWC to Surbiton so must be on the radar somewhere at LTA.

Robson- If she declares herself fit I am certain she will get a QWC.

Silva/Barnett/Grey - all worthy of discussion but they seem to have stagnated. I think they struggled to get into ITF's early season. I assume there will be another play off and we will see them there.

College players. Since Paul Jubb won mens NCAA. Maybe they will start looking at the girls doing well over there like Arburthnott and Richardson and offer them a place in the play-off and see if they can covert that to something.


I've realised that I've now named nearly every british pro player but just went for it and kind of did an overview I suppose. Right now (assuming no withdrawals and all are fit)

Main Draw
1) Boulter
2) Watson
3) Dart
4) Swan
5) Dunne
6) Burrage
7) Swiatek
8) 1 winner from the 100k series

Qualies
1) Bains (although probably not needed)
2) Gabi Taylor
3) Lumsden
4) Raducanu
5) Jones
6) Webley Smith
7) Play off winners (probably Broady)
8) Play off winners (probably Murray)
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I think Webley smith will get a doubles wildcard she’s been doing quite well!


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I'd like to see her play with Naomi Broady, I think they could be a decent team with each of their respective doubles skills.
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They usually give the wild cards in waves. My guess is Wave 1 will be Boulter, Watson, Dart and Swan and maybe Swiatek - partly because this assists in what wild cards are given in Nottingham, Birmingham and especially Eastbourne. The other three, I think, will be in Wave 2, just before the Champs, will depend on other results:

1. Bolsova, I think, will only get one if she reaches a round later than Swiatek at RG eg she reaches qf RG and Swiatek loses last 16. Swiatek is higher ranked and also is the 2018 junior champion. It is possible that both could get one.

2. ITF winner. At least one wild card will probably go to the winner of Surbiton, Ilkley or Manchester $100k ITFs and maybe more. It depends whether they are already in the draw and if the same players win more than one. I don't see three WCs going to these grass winners if they are all different and in the qualifying list.

3. Performance in Nottingham, Birmingham. This would need to be a semi at N'ham and a qf at B'ham. The second would be very tough as it would need someone to do that as a qualifier and beat top 20/30 players en route.

4. Other Brits - Burrage, Dunne, Bains, Raducanu. If any of these make the top 250 then I would have thought they have a good chance of getting one. Bains live ranking 227, Burrage 235, so I think these two have a good chance. Maybe final decisions will depend on how they do on grass. I am thinking these ones will come later than the first group.

5. Some years, they go to 'next in' when they run out of ideas but I doubt this will happen this year as there seem to be a lot of potential WC candidates, not a shortage.
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Re: Wimbledon wildcard chat

The uncertainty comes if some of the "obvious" wildcards cannot be used due to injury. In which case, the relative merits of the Burrage / Bains / Dunne / Lumsden group come into play.

I think the next three weeks are crucial for them. 3 lame first round losses would dent a player's chances, while wins over decent players would help a lot.

Bains' best results were quite a few months ago, at home, when home was Oz. The other three have all had recent success. Although Dunne is older and has been unimpressive apart from her one great week, and has dropped in ranking since last year, I think she is the only one with wins over top-150 players.

You can add Swan to the list of "may be injured", I think. IIRC, she had a MTO in her last match in RG qualies, and has pulled out of Surbiton. Hopefully it's minor.
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Update: I don't think Bolsova will get a WC if Swiatek gets one, because they both reached the last 16 of RG and I think Bolsova needed to reach the qf to get one as well as Swiatek.

Watson is now third and Swiatek fourth on the main draw alternates list so I think it is possible that one or two of them may make it in without a wild card. I am not convinced that either Sharapova or Coco V will play Wimbledon unless they think they can win some rounds there - I just cannot see them turning up for a Tatishvili-style drubbing, they have too much self-respect for that. They also need grass matches before Wimbledon to have a chance as neither has played any matches in ages. But even without them, that would need one extra withdrawal for Watson to get in directly.

Bains - it looks like she is getting some sort of WC for Nottingham along with Boulter (most of the other Brits seem to be playing the ITF in Manchester the same week) so a good perf there would definitely enhance her chances of a MDWC.

Boulter - is she fit to play the grass season or still doubtful? I am guessing we will see if she shows at Nottingham...

Raducanu - does not seem evident in the ITF lists so am wondering whether she is going to be getting MDWCs/QWCs in the WTAs...

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@StephenUK Swiatek WC is for winning Junior Wimbledon but yes I don’t think Bolsova is getting one


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With another Brit or with the player she has done so well with over the past month?
Emily Webley Smith is playing with Katy Dunne in Surbiton on a WC, and Shapatava is not on entry lists for Manc or Ilkley, so that might give a clue, I guess.

Other Brits in Surbiton dubs:

(WC) Silva and Grey
Watson and Wickmayer (Bel)
(WC) Broady and Bains
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Kinda annoying if new brit Bains is going to start vulture British WC after years of milking Aussie Wcs

And how convenient to switch nationality after Australian swing
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Kinda annoying if new brit Bains is going to start vulture British WC after years of milking Aussie Wcs

And how convenient to switch nationality after Australian swing
Well, the shit'll really hit the fan if she changes back to Aussie again after Wimbers.

Otherwise, I think it's clear she will be considered for WCs according to her ranking among other Brits.
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Not always. Makarova withdrew from RG way ahead of time. A top player who gets injured won't hang around to scrounge half a R1 paycheque.
Makarova doesn’t need the money

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Makarova doesn’t need the money
Yes, that's my point. If one of the top players or rich players gets injured, they'll just pull out rather than waiting til the last minute.
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Hoping Duan gets a singles QDWC if she wins RG doubles!
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Any chance for Leonie Küng to receive a QWC?

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