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Surbiton W100

So, Surbiton starting in 7 days, current list is looking like this:

MAIN DRAW

1 Shuai ZHANG (CHN) 48
2 Alison VAN UYTVANCK (BEL) 49
3 Alison RISKE (USA) 52
4 Tatjana MARIA (GER) 59
5 Evgeniya RODINA (RUS) 68
6 Magdalena RYBARIKOVA (SVK) 76
7 Viktorija GOLUBIC (SUI) 80
8 Jennifer BRADY (USA) 81
9 Vitalia DIATCHENKO (RUS) 83
10 Vera LAPKO (BLR) 86
11 Zarina DIYAS (KAZ) 90
12 Madison BRENGLE (USA) 98
13 Ivana JOROVIC (SRB) 101
14 Lin ZHU (CHN) 106
15 Heather WATSON (GBR) 110
16 Natalia VIKHLYANTSEVA (RUS) 114
17 Anna BLINKOVA (RUS) 123
18 Tereza SMITKOVA (CZE) 124
19 Timea BABOS (HUN) 128
20 Priscilla HON (AUS) 134
21 (Special Exempt, if needed)
22 (Special Exempt, if needed)

QUALIFYING

1 Sachia VICKERY (USA) 139
2 Monica NICULESCU (ROU) 142
3 Harriet DART (GBR) 143
4 En Shuo LIANG (TPE) 150
5 Greet MINNEN (BEL) 152
6 Yanina WICKMAYER (BEL) 153
7 Tereza MARTINCOVA (CZE) 154
8 Kimberly BIRRELL (AUS) 155
9 Danielle LAO (USA) 162
10 Ann LI (USA) 167
11 Ankita RAINA (IND) 171
MDO Magdalena FRECH (POL) 173
12 Kristie AHN (USA) 174
13 Anna KALINSKAYA (RUS) 180
14 Katie SWAN (GBR) 183
15 Caty MCNALLY (USA) 198
16 Caroline DOLEHIDE (USA) 203
17 Asia MUHAMMAD (USA) 208
18 Ellen PEREZ (AUS) 219
19 Mariam BOLKVADZE (GEO) 221
20 Arina RODIONOVA (AUS) 223

Bains 5th alt, Dunne 6th alt, Jodie 11th, Maia 16th, Naomi 23rd.

As far as I can tell, Rodionova is the only one who could qualify for an SE. She plays in a W25 in Spain this week (as a seed) and if she gets to the final, I think she would qualify for that. There probably will be the odd individual withdrawal this week, like Bouzkova withdrew last week after the withdrawal deadline, but the French Open activity will most likely result in more withdrawals. AVU and Rybarokova are already out of single's, Zhang's singles form is awful and Riske doesn't like clay, so it's more likely withdrawals will come via extended doubles runs. I'm pretty sure all top 8 in the list are playing WD when I checked last night and of course Babos is a very high doubles seed with Kiki M, so you'd expect that pair to have a run and Timea be withdrawn - I think it's Saturday that they have to be out to still be allowed to play Surbiton.

It's a bit of a tricky situation - I'm not sure how strong I want the field to be. If Surbiton is won by a player in the main draw then Jodie will probably get a Wimbledon MDWC as discussed on the Jodie thread, but the more withdrawals will allow more Brits to play - Katie S could still get in directly and then that would free up WCs and simultaneously, on paper, make it easier for Brits to pick up some wins, like Harriet and Gabi were able to do at Surbiton last year.
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Re: Surbiton W100

Maia is in the main draw in Incheon this week. I kind of expected her to withdraw and come home to practise on grass.

So with that, I would not think she's put herself in a position to leapfrog any above her by ranking for Surbiton WCs.

So I expect Swan, Bains, Dunne and Burrage, unless Swan gets in by right.

I hope Harriet is fit to play.
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I'm not following you pesto, but I was literally just about to post this, ha. I noticed it earlier on the ITF site when Rodionova was still last in quals, but 19th and not 20th, and was disappointed to find it was Katie S - hopefully she's back the following week. Bit of a shame, we don't get too many events tailor made for those 100-200+ and when we do, Katie B and S, Gabi and possibly Harriet won't be playing. I'd imagine Maia will be the 4th MDWC, assuming there's 1 or 2 withdrawals to allow Harriet in, which there's bound to be.

A couple other withdrawals because Naiktha is now 3rd alt, Katy 4th, Jodie 9th and Maia 13th, whereas she was 16th yesterday when I started the thread.

I was also surprised to see Maia sticking in out in Korea - she's going to need a deep run to make it worthwhile and the longer she's out there, you'd think it would be worse for her Surbiton chances. I suppose if she were to win the W25 then she'd probably be fine withdrawing from Surbiton anyway.
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Heh.

Yeah, I just think Maia would be better off building up a grass resume, they do take account of prior performances on the surface when allocating wildcards for all the British grass events, and it can add up to a substantial benefit.

If Maia gets to the final or wins in Korea, it's probably worth it for the ranking points, but a QF or SF would not give many points, and would leave her tired, short of grass practice, and with a very quick turnaround, if she were to receive a Surbiton WC. Losing in R1 or 2 would obviously give very few points indeed, and she won't play R1 till tomorrow, so it'd still be a pretty short time to readjust.

I suppose she may not have expected a Surbiton MDWC, in which case, it's logical enough. But as things stand, with Swan out, and Harriet very likely to be DA, Maia is the obvious fourth choice, if she's avalable.
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The British presence seems very depleted compared to last year. Great shame.
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The British presence seems very depleted compared to last year. Great shame.
Yeah it is a shame, the injuries and stronger field this year certainly hasn't helped.

Last year there were 8 Brits in the main draw, 4 direct and 4 MDWCs - the WCs included Heather who was withdrawn for still being in RG doubles and then came back in as a late WC - that's a possibility this year as well because Heather has her doubles match on Thursday.

It was a 32 Q field last year and it involved 12 Brits (5 QWCs), there were 3 rounds of Qs, but no Brits managed to make it into the FQR. This year, it's a 24 person field (4 QWCs), so there'll be less Brits involved there as well, but only 2 rounds and depending on who plays, hopefully more chance of getting someone through.

There will inevitably still be a few withdrawals, due to those still in RG, but I certainly can't see the entry cut off being as low as 223 like it was last year, and the only person (outside of Harriet) who might have made the main draw directly was Katie S, but that's gone now. Best we can hope for is Heather and Harriet in main draw, joined by Naiktha, Jodie, Katy D and possibly Maia as MDWCs. When you factor in the future withdrawals, MDWCs leaving the qualifying list, no SE's etc., at best, Naomi might sneak into quals directly, which would then free up a QWC - not sure who the faves for those 4 slots will be, but we're probably looking at a max of 11 Brits combined (6 and 5), whereas last year there were 20 involved overall.

It is a bit annoying. I was just checking and for the Luan W60 event in China a couple of weeks ago, there were 20/32 Chinese players in the main draw with the last direct entrant being ranked 394, and there were a further 19 home players in the qualifying draw (3 of which qualified). Now they benefit from geography as half the tour were in Europe at that time, but the very few WTA and significant ITF events that we do put on over here, it is the generally focal point of the tour at the time, so therefore the entry lists are much stronger and less chance to boost rankings (although I suppose the grass in itself is a bit of a leveller), but imagine if we had about 40 Brits in a big ITF event. Mind, even if we put a big event on at a random time of the year, it would still somehow be filled with good, high level European players due to geographical reasons.
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FWIW, there's a W25 event going on in China this week with 23 of the 32 main draw being home players, and 601 Sun is the last direct entrant - that's a hell of an advantage for getting your players higher up the ranking list, but it just wouldn't happen here.
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I'd rather have a good international field, and I think that in terms of numbers, there will be enough home representation for interest.

But it's a shame that some of those who were looking promising last year have stagnated, got injured or gone backwards, and that former top-100 Naomi and top-150 Tara seem to be in terminal decline, so the home players are rather weak compared to last year.

Hev often seems to bounce in and out of the top 100, and is in an "out" phase at the moment, which doesn't help.

However, compared to most previous years, we do actually have a fair few players ranked within the top 300, with several of those young enough to feel that they might push on, so it's not a total disaster.
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Obviously, Roland Garros participation is not the only reason to withdraw, but it is a major one

So these are the players currently active in Paris (I can't guarantee not to have missed any)

Surbiton MD players who have made it to R64 in RG singles:

Zhang, Brady, Diyas, Blinkova, Hon.

Surbiton MD players in the RG doubles draw:

Zhang, Van Uytvanck, Rybarikova, Golubic, Brady & Riske, Rodina, Maria & Watson, Babos.

And...

Is Niculescu fit to play? She's missing Garros. As is Dart, of course.

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Surbiton and Manchester lists weren't updated today, so whether nobody has pulled out at any level (including lowly alts) or they just haven't updated them, I don't know.

Maia won in 3 yin the early hours, but is actually the underdog in her next match with Chanel Simmonds, so it could be an early return for her in time for Surbiton. In terms of Surbiton entrants in RG, Golubic lost her doubles so I think that's her tournament over, so she should be fine to get back and play on the grass, but Zhang won her mixed doubles and in still in the women's doubles so I'd imagine she'll end up withdrawing soon.
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Obviously, Roland Garros participation is not the only reason to withdraw, but it is a major one

So these are the players currently active in Paris (I can't guarantee not to have missed any)

Surbiton MD players who have made it to R64 in RG singles:

Zhang, Brady, Diyas, Blinkova, Hon.

Surbiton MD players in the RG doubles draw:

Zhang, Van Uytvanck, Rybarikova, Golubic, Brady & Riske, Rodina, Maria & Watson, Babos.

And...

Is Niculescu fit to play? She's missing Garros. As is Dart, of course.

I believe those are all the players that are still involved. Side note, Rodionova sneaked through her R1 match in Spain, so still a possibility of an SE, although with Swan now out, it's probably not too relevant.
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As well as the possibility of Rodionova, I suppose there is still the theoretical possibility of a repeat of last year for Heather.

Players currently active in Paris - update.

Surbiton MD players still in RG singles:

Blinkova, Hon.

Surbiton MD players in the RG women's doubles draw:

Zhang, Van Uytvanck, Rybarikova, Brady & Riske, Rodina, Maria & Watson, Babos.

Surbiton MD players in the RG mixed doubles draw:


Zhang, Babos.
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It wouldn't bother me one bit if Heather lost tomorrow - get back earlier for grass, save a Surbiton WC and hopefully be in with a chance of winning it to free up that Wimbledon WC.
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Niculescu withdrew earlier and apparently W25 finalists are not exempt for an SE into a W100, so Harriet (if fit) should be the 22nd and final direct entrant. Those 3 amends should also see Naiktha into quals directly, with Katy 1st alt, Jodie 6th and Maia 10th.

As for RG activity, Blinkova surprised Garcia and will now have a 3rd round match on Saturday - I'd imagine she'd withdraw from Surbiton. If she beat Keys/Hon, she'll be automatically withdrawn, but even if she loses, she has come through 3 rounds of quals and won 2 matches, which I doubt she'd have expected, has collected 170 points (which is more than winning Surbiton), so there'll be less need to go from grass to clay in such a short period.

Hon tied up her match with Keys, so they resume tomorrow at 5-7 7-5. If she loses, the extra night will be an inconvenience, but shouldn't be a problem.

Zhang and Babos won their respective women's doubles matches today. Zhang should have 2 dubs matches on Saturday, win one of those and she'll almost certainly be out, but I wouldn't be surprised if she withdrew regardless. I'd also expect Babos to withdraw. Rybarikova won her dubs and next plays on Saturday. AVU, Riske, Brady and of course Watson and Maria are all out, so should be fine to play. Actually, Diatchenko is still there as her alt partnership beat AVU's.

With Swan out, there's not as much direct benefits for these extra withdrawals. By my reckoning, Naomi would need 12 withdrawals to sneak into quals (in addition to the expected MDWCs), which looks very unlikely, but I guess it's a fine line between having a slightly weaker event for more chance of GB wins, but still keeping it strong enough so that's it's won by someone already in the Wimbledon draw.

Ilkley initial list came out today and that looks very strong, so there's a fair chance that Ilkley and Surbiton will be won by those not needing a Wimby MDWC, but there's only 3 Wimbledon entrants in Manchester, so it's pretty likely that will be won by someone requiring a MDWC.

With Harriet effectively in the main draw, and Heather now not in the same position as last year, I'd expect them to announce Jodie, Naiktha, Katy and Maia as MDWCs either tomorrow or Friday.

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