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Venus & Serena - Post Reality Show Reflections

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This is neither a positive nor a negeative thread. The purpose of this to share reflection following the end of the reality show. Regardless of where yous stand with regard to Venus or Serena, please make an effort to be constructive in your intervention.

I think the reality show series was very successful for its entertainment value.
The family dynamic was very heart warming. It made the ups and downs of the tennis player life easier to cope with.

However, assuming this reality show is representative of their professional life as tennis players, some of us (williams fans) have to be a little concerned about the future, especially Serena.

Here are few areas of concerns for me in the long run:
  1. Compared to the average player in the top 10, their focus is not nearly as much focus on tennis. Somebody already mentioned this.
  2. Maybe because Richard was not there, but I did not particularly see an intense drill during any of the practice sessions: working on their weaknesses, developing new shots/weapons
  3. I did not see any concerted effort to get Serena in better health. All the practice sessions were a struggle, and therefore limited in scope.
  4. Everything seems to be done on the go, not enough time to reflect on things to change or improve on.
  5. Not enough Richard? Besides injuries, did this contribute to their recent slump? Serena said Oracene used to be really strict, but not anymore since they have grown up. How does this affect the discipline and structure required to make sure they have a balance between practice and rest to get the most out practice.
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I have a hunch that the show missed some aspects of their lives that would probably address the points raised here. But this being a discussion board, other posters will straighten me out on that.



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If Venus and Serena have these impressive results on the WTA tour so far with their current life style, think where they would be if they just added 30% more focus on tennis. Wouldnít that be scary for the other players? I guess we would never know

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Could you be more expressive?
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I don't think the focus of the reality show was ever to show that aspect of their training regiment.It think it was to show the personal side of their lives.As fans we only see them on the court and then bits from the post match interview.You have to remember that not everyone that watched the show are tennis fans.My mother for one finds tennis extremely boring but wanted to see what their personal lives were like.
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Could you be more expressive?
Sure.
I think itís ridiculous to make assumptions about their dedication, focus, and training regimen based on a total of 3 hours of edited footage.
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I don't think the focus of the reality show was ever to show that aspect of their training regiment.It think it was to show the personal side of their lives.As fans we only see them on the court and then bits from the post match interview.You have to remember that not everyone that watched the show are tennis fans.My mother for one finds tennis extremely boring but wanted to see what their personal lives were like.
Point well taken. I concede that point to you
On the other hand, a casual tennis fan would be left wondering about Serena's future.

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Sure.
I think itís ridiculous to make assumptions about their dedication, focus, and training regimen based on a total of 3 hours of edited footage.
OK. That is what the thread is for, to have your say.
I think I stated something to that effect in my PS.
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so we needed a special thread ? I mean this could have been included in the thread stated by 40-0
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this show has made me a bigger fan of the sisters because it has showed that fame and fortune hasnt taken away from the sisters the most important things in their life, friends and family. they seem really down to earth and fun to hang out with. they also have so many things going for them in their life besides the tennis. like serena said, she and venus wont have a lack of things to do after their tennis careers (which only takes up about 1/5 of their whole lives) because they have up so much for themselves.

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so we needed a special thread ? I mean this could have been included in the thread stated by 40-0
I think it deserve it own thread.
The thread you may be refering to is for the last episode. So far there has been a thread for each episode. I wanted to keep focus on what williams fan or non-fans take from the series within the framework of my original post.

Yes I do think it deserve its own thread.
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This show was ment to show their lives out side of the tennis court, if I wanted to see them play tennis i would have just watched the tennis channel. How much can you juge their life style from only seeing a small part of it?
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not to mention how boreing the show would be if we did just see them train, also from the episodes i have seen Serena was injured and it is pretty bad to train injured.
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You have no idea what youre talking about, you hgave regurgitated similar speculation regarding Serena and Richard, etc. since Episode 1, and have pointed out convenient scenes in each episode to reinforce your point.

Serena is injured, thats why she is losing and playing bad. Once she becomes un-injured, she will be fine. There is nothing for her to worry about, she is still the best tennis player on tour with the exception of maybe Henin-Hardenne.

Richard is OBVIOUSLY NOT a huge part of their lives now that they are adults, especially after the divorce. Did you see how cold and rushed the goodbye was to Venus after she lost in Charleston? Not the hugs and kisses that we would have sen in 2000-2001. Richard has no more influence over their lives than V&S want them to, they are 23 (next month 24) and 25! In the US, that makes you an adult and no longer accountable to your parents.


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You have no idea what youre talking about, you hgave regurgitated similar speculation regarding Serena and Richard, etc. since Episode 1, and have pointed out convenient scenes in each episode to reinforce your point.

Serena is injured, thats why she is losing and playing bad. Once she becomes un-injured, she will be fine. There is nothing for her to worry about, she is still the best tennis player on tour with the exception of maybe Henin-Hardenne.

Richard is OBVIOUSLY NOT a huge part of their lives now that they are adults, especially after the divorce. Did you see how cold and rushed the goodbye was to Venus after she lost in Charleston? Not the hugs and kisses that we would have sen in 2000-2001. Richard has no more influence over their lives than V&S want them to, they are 23 (next month 24) and 25! In the US, that makes you an adult and no longer accountable to your parents.
Please just stick to your comments, you don't have to be personal.

Regading Serena's attitude toward practice in general, I don't think I was the only william fans pointing that out. And Serena herself acknowldges this.
But credit to you, you did respond directly to me, unlike others, who just bad rep me.
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I watched the show for entertainment value. I watched the show because I am fascinated by their lives. I did not sit and try and get information about their training regimen. No way are they going to show that anyway. They were producers on this show and had input as to the content of the show. I doubt they want any other players garnering their secrets to preparing for a match. Besides that would have been boring. I got exactly what I wanted and enjoyed it. I constantly found myself wishing the show was an hour, instead of 30 minutes. I got to see their interaction with their family, friends and their handlers, managers, agents, etc. I got to see the type of personality Oracene really has, which is exactly what I expected and she is a delight. I want more, but that's all there is, and I doubt we'll get any more. So, thanks Vee and Rena & Co.

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