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Where will Mona go in 2014 ?

Season 2013 is finished.

Compared to last year we are not wiser about Mona than before.

Rather the same procedure. Having a very good start, peaking at Paris where she won her first premier title and loosing her form after Indian Wells more and more.
Negative highlights of the first half were the matches against Pegula at Charleston and against Lisa-Maria Moser, in the second round at Bad Gastein.

On her favorite surface on the US Tour she had 2 remarkable wins against Top 20 players at Cincinati.
The rest was pretty much average loosing to Petkovic at Washington, Stevens at Toronto and Riske at the US Open each time in the second round.

The Asian swing and the late indoor season you can simply forget.

More details of the results 2013 are here -
http://espn.go.com/tennis/player/res...3/mona-barthel

Some overall stats -
http://espn.go.com/tennis/player/_/id/1913/mona-barthel
Btw., Mona earned a lot more money this season despite having 12 wins less than last year.

As Heiko recently mentioned the last time we could see her smile on court was after her win at against Bojanowski in Fed Cup. The currency of the season must have been pretty sobering for Mona.

Many things have been said in her threads already, but what do you expect from Mona in the new season ?

Break-through à la Halep or Kerber ?
Same procedure as every year ?
ITF career ?
Career end ?
Or something else ?
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Re: Where will Mona go in 2014 ?

Unpredictable. Hopefully at least same procedure as every year.

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Re: Where will Mona go in 2014 ?

This is probably the most difficult question in women's tennis at the moment. As i already wrote in another thread, any ranking position between 10 and 150 is possible from my point of view.

If you look back to the seasons 2012 and 2013, you could conclude that it is likely that Mona will follow the same pattern in 2014. But in order to get a more complete picture of Mona's career so far, i studied her results in 2011. In that year she was pretty much up and down over the whole course of the season. She often had one or two very strong tournaments, followed by one or two really bad ones with really awful losses. In that way she blew any of her opponents off the court at the ITFs in Mestre (on clay!) and Shrewsbury (including Heather Watson in the final by 60 63), only to then fade away in the qualis of Linz and Luxembourg a few weeks later. She also had matchpoints against Kuznetsova (ranked 14 at that time) in Marbella and two weeks later she lost to the number 275.

So Mona proved in 2011 that she is well able to perform within the range of her possibilities for the whole year.

Why she wasn't able to follow that pattern in 2012 and 2013 is a difficult question and it's up to her to bring that pattern to WTA-level. Maybe it has something to do with normal adaptive difficulties and her coaching situation, but she has to find it out herself.

So for 2014 i don't expect a breakthrough a la Halep or Kerber. I think this is just not possible, given her inconsistency. Even though i still believe that Mona is slightly more talented than both of them, i don't think that her average and low level of performance are good enough to consistently go deep in tournaments.

And this is what being a TOP-10 player is about, that you are able to win on average and even on bad days.

I think it can happen that she has to go back to ITF-level, especially given her special ranking situation with a lot of points to defend within the first two and a half months of next year. In case that happens, would she, as an inconsistent player, then be able to get back to the big tour? I say yes, because she is too talented. But she probably wouldn't do that by playing consistently well on ITF-tournaments, rather by going deep at a few WTA-tournaments after a successful qualifying, like she already did in 2011.

So i think she will still be on the WTA-tour at the end of 2014. I would only expect an end of her career, if she stucks somewhere in ITF-regions for a longer time, which hopefully will never happen.

And with regard to the "same procedure as every year", i believe it will only happen, if Mona doesn't change her coaching situation (which is not unlikely). In case Mona still wants to travel with her mum as her coach, i would advise her to take a few weeks off in the middle of the season in order to work with her homecoach (the guy who helps her peaking for the first three months of the year).

But if Mona hires a proper coach during the offseason and follows his advise with full conviction, i think she will pattern-wise have a season like she had on ITF-level in 2011 and will end the year at around WTA 20.

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Interesting that she always had a good start in the season. In the last 4 years she has won 4 titles in the first 5 weeks of a season.

2010: won the 10k in Wrexham in January
2011: won the 25k in Andrézieux-Bouthéon in January
2012: won the WTA Hobart tournament in January
2013: won the WTA Paris Indoors tournament at the beginning of February
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2010: won the 10k in Wrexham in January
2011: won the 25k in Andrézieux-Bouthéon in January
2012: won the WTA Hobart tournament in January
2013: won the WTA Paris Indoors tournament at the beginning of February
So she must win in 2014 the AO. There is nothing better than a Premier in the first 5 weeks and every year it was higher category than the year before
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Re: Where will Mona go in 2014 ?

With coach - TOP 20.
Without coach - TOP 100.

● Barthel ● Bertens ● Andreescu ● Alexandrova ● Vekic ●
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In case Mona still wants to travel with her mum as her coach, i would advise her to take a few weeks off in the middle of the season in order to work with her homecoach (the guy who helps her peaking for the first three months of the year).

But if Mona hires a proper coach during the offseason and follows his advise with full conviction, i think she will pattern-wise have a season like she had on ITF-level in 2011 and will end the year at around WTA 20.
Looking at the last two years Mona obviously does really hard when she once has reached a deepth in a season.
So I also think she should probably consider to take a little longer break in the mid season to somehow "shake of" what has happened in the weeks before and start fresh and confident again.
In a way you can find similarities when you compare the currency of the whole season to the currency of some of her recent matches.
She starts pretty easygoing but drops/surrenders pretty rapid.
That`s very significant for Mona tells a lot about her. It might have to do with her own expectations and her ambition. That`s the point she has to work on most beside the court.
Pretty likely she has to invest more in every aspect, which also means to sign a full-time coach to get further.
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Looking at the last two years Mona obviously does really hard when she once has reached a deepth in a season.
So I also think she should probably consider to take a little longer break in the mid season to somehow "shake of" what has happened in the weeks before and start fresh and confident again.
In a way you can find similarities when you compare the currency of the whole season to the currency of some of her recent matches.
She starts pretty easygoing but drops/surrenders pretty rapid.
That`s very significant for Mona tells a lot about her. It might have to do with her own expectations and her ambition. That`s the point she has to work on most beside the court.

Pretty likely she has to invest more in every aspect, which also means to sign a full-time coach to get further.
Yes, she always seems to have the highest expectations with regard to her game, and if she can't meet them she easily gets frustrated and starts hanging her head. She was 6-1 3-1* up against Voegele and when she couldn't convert that one BP, her game obviously fell apart until 1-4 in the third. So maybe a tennis coach is not enough to get her back on track, she should also work on the mental side of her game with the help of a sport psychologist/mental coach.
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In 2012 Mona was #6 in aces and #7 in "the first service points won".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_WTA_Tour

She decided to weaken a lot her first serve this year because her second serve is very poor. Now she has just a mediocre serve
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Re: Where will Mona go in 2014 ?

^ yeah, such a shame.

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