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some serve placement issues im having

Hey there.
I have a few placement issues with my serve. On the ad side, i have trouble getting it wide enough for my cc serve. At best, it will land to the corner of the box, touching the two lines. But not more than that. When I try to pronate as much as i can to get it more wide, i just lose control of my shot.
Secondly, i dont know how to slice it on my ad side without it going too far to the left past the T. Is it supposed to be very hard to hit an ad slice serve for a righty?
Lastly, i struggle to hit a kick serve on the deuce side down the line. It naturally goes out wide, but if i try to pronate, it just goes down the middle of the box at best. Iíve been told its a lack of pronation, but if i pronate any harder, i lose all control on my serve.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks a lot
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Re: some serve placement issues im having

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Serving in a particular direction is helped by pointing your shoulders where you would like the ball to go. When standing side on stand with your shoulders and waist pointing in the direction you want the ball to go. With slice serve the ball toss should be similar to the standard sere however the grip may be slightly more radical or you can try coming around the ball a bit more. With a kick serve the ball is moving across your body rather than up and down. I find the easiest way (disclaimer: I am terrible at kick serves) to direct the ball is the push off the back leg upwards and move your body towards the direction of where you want it to go.

Although this is very hard to make proper judgement without seeing your serve and difficult to convey action with words as english isn't my first language

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Hey there.
I have a few placement issues with my serve. On the ad side, i have trouble getting it wide enough for my cc serve. At best, it will land to the corner of the box, touching the two lines. But not more than that. When I try to pronate as much as i can to get it more wide, i just lose control of my shot.
Secondly, i dont know how to slice it on my ad side without it going too far to the left past the T. Is it supposed to be very hard to hit an ad slice serve for a righty?
Erh..you don't really want to be aiming for much further than that.. A serve right into that corner is basically perfect. You don't want to actually aim for the outside line.

I wouldn't focus so much on pronation, but it's more about where you make contact with the ball.. For the flat outwide serve on the ad side, you want to hit through the back of the ball, and for the slice serve, you want to make contact with the side of the ball. It might help also to throw the ball slightly more out to the right when going for the outwide serve.
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Re: some serve placement issues im having

Where you describe your serve landing may be as good as you are going to get on the ad side.
The slice out wide for a right hander on the ad side is not a natural serve (occasionally you get a few players who do it well, but it is not a go to serve). For a lefty it is, with most lefties routinely using that delivery on big points with ease.

You may need to alter your target to mid way up the service box side line....this will pull your opponent slightly wider for the return.
Many right handers, myself included, prefer the flat or slightly sliced serve, that lands mid way or 3/4 up the service box side line.

Check out Osaka on the ad side. She has a great flat delivery that lands mid way or 3/4 the way up the box side line. Effective.

I find the most effective serve on the ad side (for a right hander) is slice at the body, cutting the angle off for most returners, if you get it right.

A kicker at the body is also a good option on the ad side. If you are able to serve with kick, you can get a wide kicker working as well, it bounces high and continues to move wide and is tough to control.

Hard and flat, even right into the corner on that side can go directly into the strike zone of a player with a good backhand, so I tend to target shorter up the box and at least it makes the returner move a few steps.

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Hey there.
I have a few placement issues with my serve. On the ad side, i have trouble getting it wide enough for my cc serve. At best, it will land to the corner of the box, touching the two lines. But not more than that. When I try to pronate as much as i can to get it more wide, i just lose control of my shot.
Secondly, i dont know how to slice it on my ad side without it going too far to the left past the T. Is it supposed to be very hard to hit an ad slice serve for a righty?
Lastly, i struggle to hit a kick serve on the deuce side down the line. It naturally goes out wide, but if i try to pronate, it just goes down the middle of the box at best. Iíve been told its a lack of pronation, but if i pronate any harder, i lose all control on my serve.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks a lot
Serve placement is largely governed by your shoulder. You want to rotate your shoulder from the loading phase of the serve, to the area you are trying to place the ball (especially on a flat serve or slice serve)

For the out-wide serve on the ad court, you can add a bit more topspin to get more angle.

For your kick serve on the duece court, if your 'kick serve' is going to the middle of the court, you are hitting a topspin-slice serve, most likely because your shoulder is rotating too much into the court. This is a very common error.
To hit a kick serve properly, you want your body to stay closed as much as possible. It's almost like you are staying sideways to the court at contact. This position allows you to properly hit up and to the right of the ball so that after it bounces, it kicks up and to your opponents backhand.
Watch slow-mo of Stosur, she has mastered this serve.
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