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Is it just me or the video isn't playing?

Oh, as if you had no choice? There's a moment, there's always a moment, "I can do this, I can give into this, or I can resist it", and I don't know when your moment was, but I bet you there was one.
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Is it just me or the video isn't playing?
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@mykarma could you embed again?

Oh, as if you had no choice? There's a moment, there's always a moment, "I can do this, I can give into this, or I can resist it", and I don't know when your moment was, but I bet you there was one.
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I guess it`s about this
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This was pointless to watch, save your time. You can't even see what happened before the arrest...
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Re: Family arrested for loitering in their own yard

New Jersey law re loitering:

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jer...-33/2c-33-2-1/


From the video it does not appear as if anyone was in a public place or in the process of obtaining controlled substances. However, we do not and cannot ascertain all the facts from this video alone. The police will have to present evidence before a court to prove the law was violated in order to justify their actions. If they fail, the city will be facing liability.

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Re: Family arrested for loitering in their own yard

After a little research I found this:



Evidently, the incident appears to have taken place in Chester, PA. Not in Jersey. Still, the same principle applies in that the burden of proof remains with the police to prove the law had been violated. The video suggests the victims will file a lawsuit against the township.

By the way, note the comments made by the viewers on youtube. They are quite sympathetic to the victims.

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Re: Family arrested for loitering in their own yard

I find it strange how the "anti-loitering" provision (seen at 1:10 in the video in the opening post) is so vague. It makes it possible for the police to make any people they don't like to go away or go back inside their home.

Which lawmaker comes up with the idea that this is necessary? Usually, there are rules against excessive noise or noise during quiet hours, but not against people just hanging out together outdoors.
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What a crazy situation. How on earth can you be arrested for being outside your own home, as long as you aren't engaged in illegal or anti-social behaviour?

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Just looked for a definition but struggled to understand the concept of loitering.
"stand or wait around idly or without apparent purpose. / travel indolently and with frequent pauses." sounds vague.
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Just looked for a definition but struggled to understand the concept of loitering.
"stand or wait around idly or without apparent purpose. / travel indolently and with frequent pauses." sounds vague.
Teachers would tell students not to loiter the corridors. Sometimes there'd be signs of "do not loiter" around railway stations. I suppose part of it is to keep no gooders from mucking up in the space as if it were their own. Still, in terms of legal ramifications, that's a tough one. Trespass and misdemeanor is understandable. "Loitering" in and of its own, and in one's own property should not attract sanction.
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Like with anyone who gets arrested obviously a crime was committed so the criminals were arrested. This video is a waste of time and it hurts my ears. It doesn't show you what they did to get arrested, it's not for loitering, that's just clickbait. You do the crime, you pay the time.

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Like with anyone who gets arrested obviously a crime was committed so the criminals were arrested. This video is a waste of time and it hurts my ears. It doesn't show you what they did to get arrested, it's not for loitering, that's just clickbait. You do the crime, you pay the time.

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