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BTW, if I go by the sheer visitor numbers, France is easily one of those countries that can claim ‘our culture is one of the best‘, as it is consistently ranked as the world's most visited country.

Every year, people from the world over vote with their hard earned dollars, pounds or yens that the cultural mix that France offers - cuisine, architecture, historical sights, museums, exhibitions, fashion, opera, shopping, lifestyle, nature - is better than what any other country has to offer and they come for a visit in numbers no other country can match.
At least France has to deal with that reputation and seems to succeed in selling it.

I must say I'm usually happy to be French when it's time to eat. We have good local products. I think the geographical situation helps. And the diversity of its many regions keeps captivating me. There is so much difference from Alsace to Normandie, Aquitaine to Provence, Auvergne to Pays de Loire... The folklore, the regional cultures, the landscapes, the climates... that's geographically very different, and still it's France. I wish I could travel more.

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At least France has to deal with that reputation and seems to succeed in selling it.

I must say I'm usually happy to be French when it's time to eat. We have good local products. I think the geographical situation helps. And the diversity of its many regions keeps captivating me. There is so much difference from Alsace to Normandie, Aquitaine to Provence, Auvergne to Pays de Loire... The folklore, the regional cultures, the landscapes, the climates... that's geographically very different, and still it's France. I wish I could travel more.
Yes, this geographical and regional diversity is what makes France so great

Last time I was in France, I noticed that the French seemed to love 'les biscuits au beurre', they were on sale in different versions in every shop or at every petrol station. I think they are usually called 'les palets' or 'les galletes' and come from Bretagne.

One of my French relatives once brought be a big box full of these and they were absolutely delicious
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Yes, this geographical and regional diversity is what makes France so great

Last time I was in France, I noticed that the French seemed to love 'les biscuits au beurre', they were on sale in different versions in every shop or at every petrol station. I think they are usually called 'les palets' or 'les galletes' and come from Bretagne.

One of my French relatives once brought be a big box full of these and they were absolutely delicious
These are called "les galettes bretonnes"*, yes, a famous product. La Bretagne, another great region of France. I spent some time there in my youth for the holidays, and I recall the special purity of the air and the "beach/coast atmosphere" (in Carnac) whish is fresh but sweet.

*but there are also "les palets bretons" which are delicious biscuits, yes, I think that's what was sent to you. For "les galettes", it can be biscuits or crêpes (pancakes), and these are especially famous.

I live now in the south (Alpes de Haute-Provence) but I lived for 25 years in the North (la Flandre) near Dunkerque and there, the product that can't compare to other regions of France are "les frites!" (fries). They have a way to make fries that is unique. It's made and sold in sort of caravanes on public places, called "les baraques à frites", and in the evening you have people gathering around "baraques à frites" to have a great time, while the weather is often rainy and windy, so the heat of the baraque à frites keeps everyone warm. I enjoyed those times.

Tell me a bit about the Czech Republic. What's great there? (we seem to have a percentage of atheism in common already )

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These are called "les galettes bretonnes"*, yes, a famous product. La Bretagne, another great region of France. I spent some time there in my youth for the holidays, and I recall the special purity of the air and the "beach/coast atmosphere" (in Carnac) whish is fresh but sweet.

*but there are also "les palets bretons" which are delicious biscuits, yes, I think that's what was sent to you. For "les galettes", it can be biscuits or crêpes (pancakes), and these are especially famous.

I live now in the south (Alpes de Haute-Provence) but I lived for 25 years in the North (la Flandre) near Dunkerque and there, the product that can't compare to other regions of France are "les frites!" (fries). They have a way to make fries that is unique. It's made and sold in sort of caravanes on public places, called "les baraques à frites", and in the evening you have people gathering around "baraques à frites" to have a great time, while the weather is often rainy and windy, so the heat of the baraque à frites keeps everyone warm. I enjoyed those times.
I’ve recently seen a documentary on Bretagne and the region looks wonderful. I think Rennes is the main city.

Interesting story about the ‘frites’ and people spending evenings near those caravanes, I guess in some other countries like Ireland people would rather go to a pub.

BTW, les crêpes (pancakes) are obviously popular even outside France, just like croissants.


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Tell me a bit about the Czech Republic. What's great there? (we seem to have a percentage of atheism in common already )
What's great about Czechia besides atheism?

Well I guess maybe the greatest thing is that given its location in the middle of Europe it's a unique blend of Slavic and West European (esp. Germanic) cultures so there's history on every corner.

A quote from a British website:

'This small country has the largest concentration of great houses and palaces in Europe, built by Czech Renaissance magnates and the wealthy nobility of the Habsburg Empire, while the castles that are such a dramatic feature of the landscape reflect Bohemia's power and influence in the Middle Ages.'

Unfortunately, it's extremely costly to keep this architectural legacy alive and I think in France there's a similar problem.

So it's a tough choice - should France, Czechia, etc. invest millions $$$ in the conservation of historical treasures or rather save the money for 'more important things' like digital infrastructure, roads, pensions, healthcare, defence, etc.

Imagine how many km of new roads or railways could be built or how many poor and homeless could be fed instead of pouring money into the Notre Dame cathedral, the Carcassonne castle or the Châteaux of the Loire Valley

BTW, there's a Czech delikatese - spa wafers - which my French relatives loved and which is equal in taste to les galettes (they even seek to obtain EU protection). More here

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I’ve recently seen a documentary on Bretagne and the region looks wonderful. I think Rennes is the main city.

Interesting story about the ‘frites’ and people spending evenings near those caravanes, I guess in some other countries like Ireland people would rather go to a pub.

BTW, les crêpes (pancakes) are obviously popular even outside France, just like croissants.




What's great about Czechia besides atheism?

Well I guess maybe the greatest thing is that given its location in the middle of Europe it's a unique blend of Slavic and West European (esp. Germanic) cultures so there's history on every corner.

A quote from a British website:

'This small country has the largest concentration of great houses and palaces in Europe, built by Czech Renaissance magnates and the wealthy nobility of the Habsburg Empire, while the castles that are such a dramatic feature of the landscape reflect Bohemia's power and influence in the Middle Ages.'

Unfortunately, it's extremely costly to keep this architectural legacy alive and I think in France there's a similar problem.

So it's a tough choice - should France, Czechia, etc. invest millions $$$ in the conservation of historical treasures or rather save the money for 'more important things' like digital infrastructure, roads, pensions, healthcare, defence, etc.

Imagine how many km of new roads or railways could be built or how many poor and homeless could be fed instead of pouring money into the Notre Dame cathedral, the Carcassonne castle or the Châteaux of the Loire Valley

BTW, there's a Czech delikatese - spa wafers - which my French relatives loved and which is equal in taste to les galettes (they even seek to obtain EU protection). More here
Thanks. I think there's a debate in France as to wether keep the conservation of historical treasures at the cost of the state or leave it to private parties. I think our kings in the previous centuries (especially François 1st if I'm not mistaken) ruined his people with his habit of building somptuous castles and cathedrals. I doubt he had planned the benefits of future tourism or he was visionnary. But yeah, nothing seems to change that much between the classes. You've probably heard of the "gilets jaunes" ("yellow vests") lately, protests from people of the peripheral France, who can't bear taxes anymore (France is the most taxed nation of the world, I've heard), the latest one being the fuel, that does tax all the people who need their cars to go to work (unlike Parisians who take the metro). Their buying power decreases and there's a general exasperation.

But I digress.

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Thanks. I think there's a debate in France as to wether keep the conservation of historical treasures at the cost of the state or leave it to private parties. I think our kings in the previous centuries (especially François 1st if I'm not mistaken) ruined his people with his habit of building somptuous castles and cathedrals. I doubt he had planned the benefits of future tourism or he was visionnary. But yeah, nothing seems to change that much between the classes. You've probably heard of the "gilets jaunes" ("yellow vests") lately, protests from people of the peripheral France, who can't bear taxes anymore (France is the most taxed nation of the world, I've heard), the latest one being the fuel, that does tax all the people who need their cars to go to work (unlike Parisians who take the metro). Their buying power decreases and there's a general exasperation.

But I digress.
I've obviously heard about "gilets jaunes" it's all over the news.

By coincidence, I actually once participated in a demonstration in Paris when I visited the city in 1990s.

More than half a million people were then marching in the streets, protesting against some education reform. I think the then minister was called François Bayrou.

It looked like a big and peaceful happening though, with people eating & drinking and carrying some banners, no violence at all
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74% of Spaniards would welcome a Muslim into the family?! M'kay....It'd be interesting to know where they conducted the poll!
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74% of Spaniards would welcome a Muslim into the family?! M'kay....It'd be interesting to know where they conducted the poll!
It was conducted in Al-Andalus
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BTW, if I go by the sheer visitor numbers, France is easily one of those countries that can claim ‘our culture is one of the best‘, as it is consistently ranked as the world's most visited country.
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Only for about 11 more years:

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...nation-by-2030
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French are pretty rude people, especially in Paris

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I think both France and China are stunning countries and would happily stay a while in either!
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French are pretty rude people, especially in Paris

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I've always heard that, but my personal experience in Paris with the natives was pretty good. They were always nice and helpful. It's believed that if you at least try to scratch some French, they will be nice, but if you already start speaking in English as if expecting them to know, they won't be. I speak absolutely nothing of French, but I learned a few sentences (basically: ou est la and je voudrais) and always started talking to people in French, so maybe it was because of that. Also lots of people there simply don't speak English, it's bizarre for such a rich country.

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On the first map the title is about Eastern and Central Europe. And on the second map just about Eastern Europe, so we can conclude that Eastern Europe means Greece, Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Bosnia??

I imagine answering a questionnaire asking about gay marriage, muslims and then "our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others". What kind of a question is that

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here are the figures for this map:

https://preview.redd.it/shyvnpt2kamx...=webp&870f029d

It's a bit old, but regarding Estonia it seems correct, especially the 50% part You can come and sell stones and other stuff here saying it's good for your stomach or it'll help you find love and so on. There's even a magazine called What Doctors Don't Tell You.. conspiracy!
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Really? I didn‘t know that. Thanks

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74% of Spaniards would welcome a Muslim into the family?! M'kay....It'd be interesting to know where they conducted the poll!
i would have belived it more if i know who did the poll and if it was 100% anonymous

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