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Rantings Of An Imperfect Society!


As most of you know, I have a sincere dis-like of "Tags". By "Tags", I mean the words that we use to describe ourselves and others. On this board, for instance, we talk about "Gay, Straight, and Bi" quite a bit. But, it is not limited to these things alone. There are such things as "Republican", "Democrat", Coservative", "Liberal", "Religous", "Jewish", "Christian", so on and so forth! The list is endless!

My view is that these "Tags" are merely window dressing and have no bearing on a persons depth of charcter. Often, when we here a person desrcibed by a tag, we react to the tag and not the person. We wind up judgeing a persons character based on our feelings and/or knowledge of a tag. For instance, there are a great many people who are homophobic and, as a result, when they hear a person described as being "Gay", they dismiss that person as being "Evil", "Immoral", "Disgusting", etc! They judge a persons complete character based on a "Tag". Well, that person might be gay, but that is only one aspect of their life! There is, I hope, much more to a person then their sexual preferences! If not, then they are terribly shallow!

This is all applicable to every tag! The way I see it, we use the tags as a convienience more than anything else! We pigeon hole people very quickly and, very often, we never take an oppurtunity take get to know people! What's more, we are intlerant of those people we deem to be different than we are!

People! We have been ignorant! Yes, we are a society made of of people with different life experiences, different points of view. Look, we need to learn to tolerate each other and embrace our differences! Just because someone has a lifestyle that is different than our own. Just because someone has a different point of view, that does not mean that they are any less worthwhile than we are.

I urge you to look past the window dressing and learn about people that are different than you are! If you are straight, than befriend a gay person! A jew? Than speak to a christian! So on and so forth! Very often, you will find that the fears and anxieties that you feel about those that are different are born of ignorance! We haven't bothered to learn about life! There is always more than one side to an issue, so do not be afraid to examine the other sides! There is much that we can discover about ourselves and each other if we can just get past the window dressing!

I learned alot about this about the time I first started on the Sanez/WTA board a few years ago. I did not have much exposure to gay people. As a result, I was fearful of them! But than I met Griffin, who is a lesbian and works for a gay organization. Well, we started speaking long before I knew anything about her personal life! Well, I liked her! I enjoyed her sense of humour! And I really respected her opinions! Of course along the way, I found out her preferences. Well, it did not change my opinion of her! To this day, I have a great deal of respect for Griffin and I consider her a dear friend! Our differences in our preference do not matter!

It was I am saying, is that if you can't get past the window dressing, you will miss out on much of what life has to offer! Please open your hearts and minds to those that are different! Do not dismiss someone who is different as being anything less than worthwhile! Above all, tolerate those who think, look or believe differently!
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great post, Barrie!

PS: I had to select the entire message to read it. My colour settings are dark, the blue is hard to read on a dark blue background.
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Barrie..lil advice: post more like this!!!! You seem to be a very smart guy, I would appreciate you a lot more if you would post more like this

I didn't even try to read it the first time you posted, because I thought it was all porn and other rubbish again...but I read the comments, and they were good

thanks Barrie..great post
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this is the best post i've read from you barrie...

so you were just pretending all along?

seriously though, i agree... we stereotype people a lot of time...and it stems to prejudices...and even if you don't think you're prejudiced, in a way you still have an inclination towards certain things or qualities....i learned this a long time ago...and what really works to try and talk to other people rather than staying away from them cos we're different....the last thing you want to do is to discriminate against others without even knowing them...

even though you've exceeded the number of exclamation points allowed in one post barrie...i don't mind
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Great post, and totally true!!

Btw, I knew you are this kinda guy

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Oh such a true post. I recognise a lot of myself in there.

It also counts for tennis actually. Before i joined sanex, i loved martina and all the other players were just in marti's way and i only knew them in a shallow way, not interested in exploring their personality and/or background. But then you join a tennisboard, and get to know people who prefer those other players above yours and you start to appreciate their achievements and get to 'know' them better. (I never knew Venus was so funny and witty before i joined these boards lol and that's just one exemple.) You find out they also have their good sides and that your own favorite player isn't as perfect as you'd like to believe lol. So these message boards opened my eyes...

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Barrie, yes post more like this instead of your homosexual fantasies!

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same here, Carot!

I didn' t like the Williams sisters much when I first visited the Sanex boards. But after reading interviews with Venus, reading other people's remarks, following Venus's matches closely, she's grown a lot on me.

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Thanks!

I appriciate everyones comments. I find that much of the intolerance, prejudices, injustices, etc. in the world are born of ignorance. We just don't take the time to understand or get to know those with opposing views. If we take the time to get beyond the window dressing or tags, we can learn so much about life and people! And once we learn to do that, we can lose our fears andanxieties about certain things. Obviously, we do not need to agree on everything, but we need to treat each other with a certain amount of respect and dignity. And this is far easier to do once we get past our fears and anxieties! Once we can get past our prejudices. All we have to do is comunicate! And part of comunication is listening, considering what the other person is saying! There is so much life out there to experience! Lets not be so narrow in our thinking that we miss it all! Open your minds and your hearts! Do this and you will amaze yourself at what you see, what you learn and the friends you make will be quite diverse! You will astound yourself!

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Barrie, yes post more like this instead of your homosexual fantasies!
Hey people you expect this guy to change the world every day, isn't that a bit too harsh

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Yeah KC, it's like how we say it in Belgium here: the bow cannot always be bend lmao

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Barrie, yes post more like this instead of your homosexual fantasies!
Oh My Dear Lord! Now I Know Why They Call You Pea!

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Yeah KC, it's like how we say it in Belgium here: the bow cannot always be bend lmao
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Barrie has Per4ever relevation got to ya

But seriously I couldn't agree more, does it matter what colour, religion, sexuality etc. of people on the board all that you should base your judgements on is what they post, as Beige's avatar once said 'You are what you post'

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