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From the past, Andrea Jaeger.

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Agassi said he hated it, but he played as long as he could until his back wouldnt let him play
I'm sure there are negatives with injuries and travel issues and stress of competition and expectations.
I dont see many healthy players retiring when they are healthy and still very good. Dementieva retired when she was still a YEC player and making deep slam runs. I cant think of many others who walk away early when they are still near the top
They were obviously pretty beat up by age generally, but Sampras never played another match after winning the US Open for his 14th slam win, and Graf had just gone 13-1 in the French Open-Wimbledon when she quit the sport permanently mid-match against Amy Frazier back in 1999.

Flavia Pennetta and Marion Bartoli are a bit different from Dementieva, in that they quit almost immediately after their career greatest achievement, while Dementieva was, arguably, better in the two years after her Olympic gold than she had been in the years prior, and was still a very real slam threat. I think Dementieva would have continued for a few years had she not gotten injured at the French Open that year. That really broke her spirit.

Henin walked away the first time out of nowhere and as world #1, just before the French Open, thus gifting Ana Ivanovic her career. Which nobody wants to say seems suspicious, but let's be real, it's pretty damn suspicious. Her 2nd retirement was prompted by physical breakdown, so it's less applicable, but the first one was legitimately at her peak.

Julie Halard-Decugis retired just after she won her only doubles slam, reached #1 in the world, and turned 30 years old. The US Open in 2000 was a really big moment for her

I think in the olden days ( ), before the early 2000s, the grind of travel was tougher, and the money was lesser, so it was easier to make the decision to retire if you weren't going to be at full health, because the incentives weren't there.

Nowadays, Sam Stosur is still making nearly half a million dollars FROM SINGLES ALONE, and that's the kind of money that can make you get over your dislike of the grind of travel, etc.
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I think she likes (even loves) tennis and competition, but since having a baby (or this year more specifically) Vika has talked about viewing tennis as her job rather than her life. An interesting distinction/food for though in any case.\

For those saying Agassi, didn't he hate it growing up and at first on tour but then grew to enjoy it? He clearly enjoyed his career by the end, and has now done some coaching stints since retiring.
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They were obviously pretty beat up by age generally, but Sampras never played another match after winning the US Open for his 14th slam win, and Graf had just gone 13-1 in the French Open-Wimbledon when she quit the sport permanently mid-match against Amy Frazier back in 1999.

Flavia Pennetta and Marion Bartoli are a bit different from Dementieva, in that they quit almost immediately after their career greatest achievement, while Dementieva was, arguably, better in the two years after her Olympic gold than she had been in the years prior, and was still a very real slam threat. I think Dementieva would have continued for a few years had she not gotten injured at the French Open that year. That really broke her spirit.

Henin walked away the first time out of nowhere and as world #1, just before the French Open, thus gifting Ana Ivanovic her career. Which nobody wants to say seems suspicious, but let's be real, it's pretty damn suspicious. Her 2nd retirement was prompted by physical breakdown, so it's less applicable, but the first one was legitimately at her peak.

Julie Halard-Decugis retired just after she won her only doubles slam, reached #1 in the world, and turned 30 years old. The US Open in 2000 was a really big moment for her

I think in the olden days ( ), before the early 2000s, the grind of travel was tougher, and the money was lesser, so it was easier to make the decision to retire if you weren't going to be at full health, because the incentives weren't there.

Nowadays, Sam Stosur is still making nearly half a million dollars FROM SINGLES ALONE, and that's the kind of money that can make you get over your dislike of the grind of travel, etc.
No she claimed she decided at the beginning of the year that it would be her last, so the injury really broke her spirit because she had to retire at Roland Garros knowing she was was probably saying goodbye to her last chance at a slam. But she still had a solid year.

Mauresmo retired pretty quickly after winning her slams in 2006; she had declined but didn't feel finished to me.

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Bertens doesn't really like being away so much I feel. She's said some times she can long for the end of her career and just have a family.

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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the most obvious - Camila Giorgi. I've heard her say at least twice in post-match interviews (not on-court ones) that she doesn't particularly like tennis and never watches it. I also get the impression that she doesn't go out of her way to make friends on the tour - not because she doesn't or couldn't like other players, but simply because she feels that they would probably want to talk tennis all or most of the time. She gets much more animated when asked about the other things in her life.
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He's from ATP but Kyrgios is very vocal about hating tennis
Probably Barty also hated it
Kyrgios doesn't "hate tennis". His ego can't deal with the prospect of losing when he gives a shit, so he goes out of his way to look like he doesn't give a shit. That's why he goes out of his way to tell everybody how little he practises and gyms, how undisciplined he is, how he keeps late nights, and plays video games and basketball and blah, blah, blah...... He's just a guy who needs help from shrinks. He only looks like he gives a shit when he plays the Big 4, because then, he has nothing to lose against the standing/profile they have. Then he'd surprisingly get destroyed by the likes of Gasquet or Nishikori.
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Henin walked away the first time out of nowhere and as world #1, just before the French Open, thus gifting Ana Ivanovic her career. Which nobody wants to say seems suspicious, but let's be real, it's pretty damn suspicious. Her 2nd retirement was prompted by physical breakdown, so it's less applicable, but the first one was legitimately at her peak.

Julie Halard-Decugis retired just after she won her only doubles slam, reached #1 in the world, and turned 30 years old. The US Open in 2000 was a really big moment for her

Apparently Henin quit abruptly as she tested positive to drugs! A lot of hush money was paid at the time so this wasn't leaked out to the media. I was told this by someone well connected with Belgium Tennis.

Julie Halard-Decugis was the first player ever to retire as world number 1 albeit doubles! She was still 100% healthy and had won 10 titles that year and was top 15 in singles and in my opinion had several good years left in her. However she was desperately wanting kids after getting married
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The constant travelling and being away from family and friends caused the depression and subsequent retirement. Her comeback so far has been rough
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Henin walked away the first time out of nowhere and as world #1, just before the French Open, thus gifting Ana Ivanovic her career. Which nobody wants to say seems suspicious, but let's be real, it's pretty damn suspicious. Her 2nd retirement was prompted by physical breakdown, so it's less applicable, but the first one was legitimately at her peak.
Do you actually believe this revisionist nonsense or you're just trying stir up shit? Because, the only person who could claim that Henin was "legitimately at her peak" when she first retired is a person who didn't follow tennis in 2008.
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Didn't Nicole Gibbs come out talking about tennis-related depression? Baseline: Gibbs opens up about her struggle with depression
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Lovely Anke??? I never heard that. Can you tell me more??? Didn't she like pkaying, travelling or what?
She retired early and said that she hate travelling and boring tour life...

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For those saying Agassi, didn't he hate it growing up and at first on tour but then grew to enjoy it? He clearly enjoyed his career by the end, and has now done some coaching stints since retiring.
I think Agassi's attitude definitely changed during his career, maybe the turning point being his drug incident and having to play challengers to rebuild his ranking. By the time he won RG and worked with Gilbert, I don't think he hated tennis.
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I think Agassi's attitude definitely changed during his career, maybe the turning point being his drug incident and having to play challengers to rebuild his ranking. By the time he won RG and worked with Gilbert, I don't think he hated tennis.
He talks about the moment he changed his thinking about tennis in this interview with Letterman (from 2.20 mins). He's so articulate and insightful, I wish he would commentate.
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