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Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

This week USA born Spanish player Paula Badosa-Gibert currently ranked 93 travels to Japan to compete in the 2 x W25's on the resort circuit which are both played on Omni [sand based carpet].

The number 2 seed in the Gosen Cup event at Makinohara is ranked 278. This is the biggest ranking gap I can remember seeing between the number 1 and 2 seeds.

The gap for next week's event at Hamamatsu is similar ie 93 vs 262.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

She has 30 points to defend for the rest of the season so she is wanting to ensure she maintains her current ranking of 94 so she makes AO, this is preety obvious and normal people with a brain would prob do this too to ensure a $60,000 paycheck.

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She has 30 points to defend for the rest of the season so she is wanting to ensure she maintains her current ranking of 94 so she makes AO, this is preety obvious and normal people with a brain would prob do this too to ensure a $60,000 paycheck.

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Disregarding that 30 points is nothing in the top 100 and she’d make the AO MD even if nobody higher than her would withdraw, a top 100 player should have enough confidence to make 30 points without having to resort to playing 25ks.
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Disregarding that 30 points is nothing in the top 100 and shed make the AO MD even if nobody higher than her would withdraw, a top 100 player should have enough confidence to make 30 points without having to resort to playing 25ks.
Unless you end up in top 100 by accident.
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She has 30 points to defend for the rest of the season so she is wanting to ensure she maintains her current ranking of 94 so she makes AO, this is preety obvious and normal people with a brain would prob do this too to ensure a $60,000 paycheck.

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It's surprising that none of the other top 100 players or even top 250 players with points to defend have entered, maybe they are lacking something in the brains department.

Most of the entrants in these event dream of playing in the WTA, whereas Badosa appears to dream of facing players ranked 600-1000 to get a paycheck.

Its good for the tourney organizers though, I'd bet that they only way they would have attracted a top 100 player was to pay pretty significant appearance money.

PS I'm not hating on Badosa, its just that the huge gap between Badosa and the rest of the field stood out. It's also a great opportunity for one of the many highschool girls entered if they can qualify and play her in the first round.

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Its good for the tourney organizers though, I'd bet that they only way they would have attracted a top 100 player was to pay pretty significant appearance money.
It's highly unlikely that any ITF challenger doles out appearance fees. And it's even less likely that the organisers expect throngs of Japanese people to queue up for tickets to see Badosa play. Most of them would have not even heard of her yet.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

Wouldn't the 30 points be replaced with a currently non-countable 8 anyway? So she would lose only 22 and probably stay #100 by losing every match for the rest of the season. There was no reason to assume she wouldn't have finished the year top 90 with a normal schedule. But I guess it is surprising that no other European player stayed in Asia.

A shame that Sorribes has already secured the top 100. I wonder what she would have done.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

In the last 52 weeks Gibert has lost 4 ITF Finals, and all 4 players have spent a combined 0 weeks ranked in the top 100.Dunne who she lost to at an ITF in Spain has never been in the top 200. If she is indeed vulturing here this gambit is nowhere close to a lock based on form this year.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

She is not comparing to Kenin. And for the rankings wise I’ve seen worse from Shuai Zhang.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

I mean I guess she has her own career plan.
There are top 10 players who play 17 torunaments in a year, and top 10 players who play 27-28 tournaments.
I would rather call them vultures than Badosa, who just made the top 100 and has basically played 25k her whole career.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

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She is not comparing to Kenin. And for the rankings wise Ive seen worse from Shuai Zhang.

Not that the fake news is related to Badosa's situation.

Shuai's last ITF event was a $100k in Kazakstan July 2017, which she won defeating Bonaventure in the final. Shuai was ranked around 30 at the time.

She played a $100k in Tokyo in Nov 2016.

Shuai did play a $25k in the US as her only event between AO and IW in Feb 2016. She was ranked around 130 when entering and the number 2 seed Jess "Go Bills" Pegula was ranked around 168.

The 2016 AO was the event where she was about to retire and open up a cafe but then had her famous run from qualifying through to the best 8.

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It's highly unlikely that any ITF challenger doles out appearance fees. And it's even less likely that the organisers expect throngs of Japanese people to queue up for tickets to see Badosa play. Most of them would have not even heard of her yet.
They don't, they are run by volunteers and a few of the $25k events in Japan were only possible through crowd funding. But who would have thought that one of the top WTA players would one week play in a $8.5m event, then head to a small resort town in rural Japan to play a $25k event on Omni.


Full credit to Badosa she is playing in promotional events and signing autographs for her small thong of fans, a day or two after the typhoon.


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Anyway

Who will Badosa be facing in Round 1 MD?

These are the remaining qualifiers after round 1 Q, and on Wednesday, one of these lucky players will get to play a top 100 WTA player on Wednesday.

Mua SHIGETA* high school player unranked
Utaka KISHIGAMI*
Ayaka OKUNO* highest ranked player out of the remaining qualifiers at 780
Satsuki KOIKE*
Aiko YOSHITOMI*
Minami SHUTO*
Mayuka AIKAWA*
Haruka TOMINAGA* high school player unranked
Ari MATSUMOTO*
Kotomi TAKAHATA*
Mana KAWAMURA*
Mami HASEGAWA*
Funa KOZAKI*
Nana KAWAGISHI*
Honoka KOBAYASHI*
Miyu NAKASHIMA*


It may not be that easy for Badosa.

Makinohara gets a lot of wind and in autumn this can cause leaf blow problems.
The Omni carpet surface is not that even with some balls skidding and some balls bouncing
I don't know all of the players but there a few of the qualifiers that if they have a good day could give Badosa a good test.

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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

Badosa has poor losses at ITF level, even lost to Katy Dunne this year.

Nothing is certain, especially in weird conditions like this.

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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

I have to agree that as a business decision this is probably an accurate one: get some easy points and secure a nice income by the beginning of the year that will finance the first quarter of her whole season. And for what it's worth, we don't really know the actual reason why she went to Japan. Maybe she wanted to go on a vacation afterwards

She is clearly not a world beater nor a top-10 contender, and some intelligent players will simply acknowledge their need to take advantage of this position in order to stay in the top 100. If that's what she's doing I'd do exactly the same.
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Re: Vulture Alert [Badosa-Gibert]

Qualifying is completed, sadly none of the high school players made it through but Satuski Koike currently unranked gets to play Badosa in Round 1.

Satsuki has had a career high ranking of 1086 so this should be a great experience for her.

Badosa has to make sure she gets the win as the WTA no longer awards points for Round 1 losses at W25 level.

As usual there have been upsets all day at Makinohara [including the shock defeat of former world number 40 Ayumi Morita] as the more experienced players have struggled with the tricky surface.

I'm not familiar with Satsuki's play but she defeated Ayaka Okuno in qualifying. Ayaka has been ranked as high as 263.

Badosa v Koike is the first match on Show Court 1 tomorrow, kicking off at 9:30am local time......

If Badosa survives R1 she will have to face a ranked played in R2. It will be either clay court specialist Karin Kennel [561] or Yuka Hosoki [1105].
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